Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guys, anyone seen this movie yet? It was released in 2006 however this short video on Youtube is from 2007 and 2008.
Regards
Brian
Regards
Brian
Catching Out - The Movie about riding freight trains
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
X_Class
Junior Train Controller
Location: Hunter Valley
smegin smegheads
fast01
BUTTSCRATCHER!
Location: Somewhere your not.
So, a standard Railpage user has to obide by the rules and regs of this forum in regards to illegal activity in and around Railways, yet a site admin freely posts video of illegal activity on here without fear of warning levels or repremand.
Clearly double standards are rife.
Clearly double standards are rife.
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
So, a standard Railpage Australia™ user has to obide by the rules and regs of this forum in regards to illegal activity in and around Railways, yet a site admin freely posts video of illegal activity on here without fear of warning levels or repremand.
Clearly double standards are rife.
Crap. The question is about the DVD not a statement as to the legality of the practice.
Regards
Brian
fast01
BUTTSCRATCHER!
Location: Somewhere your not.
You posted a youtube Video which is all about riding freight trains, That is illegal Activity and considering pretty much every person on the board will respond with obsenities and so forth, it's simply giving these people the attention they are seeking.
Any other person who raised this topic would be copping a warning and/or ban for posting this, just as if anyone was to post a photo of Graffiti on a carriage or piece of railway equipment.
Any other person who raised this topic would be copping a warning and/or ban for posting this, just as if anyone was to post a photo of Graffiti on a carriage or piece of railway equipment.
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
So? There are many documentaries on the subject across the Internet. Just because people would like to discuss the topic does not mean they agree that is not illegal or not. You have either seen the DVD or you haven't? Which is it?
I am not debating the legality of the content, I am simply looking for a review of the DVD. This is well within the specs of what we do here.
Graffiti is a completely different story. It does not necessarily relate to rail. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread, move on to the next one.
Regards
Brian
I am not debating the legality of the content, I am simply looking for a review of the DVD. This is well within the specs of what we do here.
Graffiti is a completely different story. It does not necessarily relate to rail. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread, move on to the next one.
Regards
Brian
3foot6
Minister for Railways
Location: Unknown
It looks like a very interesting cast and crew to say the least ...
http://www.catchingout.com
http://www.catchingout.com
R 761
Chief Commissioner
Location: In A House At My Computer
There are more illegal stuff on you tube beside rideing freight trains thats Illegal. How about Train Surfing thats Illegal as well and here is a handful sample.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvm5H4F-aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kddf8r-wVdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbeAP1q-YA&feature=related
these videos that clowns are cazy and insane. Actually just plain dumb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvm5H4F-aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kddf8r-wVdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbeAP1q-YA&feature=related
these videos that clowns are cazy and insane. Actually just plain dumb.
fast01
BUTTSCRATCHER!
Location: Somewhere your not.
So? There are many documentaries on the subject across the Internet. Just because people would like to discuss the topic does not mean they agree that is not illegal or not. You have either seen the DVD or you haven't? Which is it?That still doesn't answer my question as to how it's made it onto the boards in the first place. Simply for the fact it is about illegal activity. If I was to raise a thread to ask about everyone's review of a DVD about Graffiti, I'd be banned.
I am not debating the legality of the content, I am simply looking for a review of the DVD. This is well within the specs of what we do here.Reviewing a DVD on illegal activites is something Railpage doesn't do, as that is highlighting the stupidity of people and could insight copycats. You have rocks in your head if you think this DVD is even worth reviewing.
Graffiti is a completely different story. It does not necessarily relate to rail. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread, move on to the next one.No, Graffiti falls into the same category, that being illegal activity on railways.
And tell me, why should I only post positive contributions when its clearly in breach of its own guidelines about illegal activity? I'm voicing my opinion, this is a public forum afterall...
dthead
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Partial quoting:
Actually Railpage Australia is a Private forum owned by Brian Evans (Bevans) and as owner he has the final say. He can change the goal posts if he desires, can ban a user without consultation etc.
As to the issue I think going for the owner was very courageous. But I think he'll let that slide - he is very paitient. As to the issue I am leaving that in his hands as well.
Regards,
David HEad
I'm voicing my opinion, this is a public forum afterall...
Actually Railpage Australia is a Private forum owned by Brian Evans (Bevans) and as owner he has the final say. He can change the goal posts if he desires, can ban a user without consultation etc.
As to the issue I think going for the owner was very courageous. But I think he'll let that slide - he is very paitient. As to the issue I am leaving that in his hands as well.
Regards,
David HEad
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guys, I cannot find a policy which states that "illegal activity" discussions are banned on the site. I know of a graffiti discussion ban, and a railway death discussion ban (which is being reviewed). Even if we did, are are not promoting the practice, I am merely researching the topic.
I have ordered the DVD together with a number of others and will let you all know what I think in a couple of weeks.
Fast01, I don't support the practice. However, the continental united states and canada appear to have a long history and even an obsession with this practice which happens to interest me. There are indeed many books and videos on the topic.
It is illegal to ride a skateboard in a lot of places around Melbourne, perhaps we need a policy on that? It is transport related after all.
Call me a civil disobedient if it makes you happier!
Alternatively, would you like a refund?
Regards
Brian
I have ordered the DVD together with a number of others and will let you all know what I think in a couple of weeks.
Fast01, I don't support the practice. However, the continental united states and canada appear to have a long history and even an obsession with this practice which happens to interest me. There are indeed many books and videos on the topic.
It is illegal to ride a skateboard in a lot of places around Melbourne, perhaps we need a policy on that? It is transport related after all.
Call me a civil disobedient if it makes you happier!
Alternatively, would you like a refund?
Regards
Brian
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
these videos that clowns are crazy and insane. Actually just plain dumb.
That is just plain silly.
More material:
and this video is also quite interesting. This guy has actually become quite well know around the USA.
"This is an out-take from an award winning documentary film titled "Art From The Streets". In this short clip uploaded by Linden Hudson, we see John Curran, homeless artist, tell a very interesting story about hopping a freight train in Texas. See John give a tour..."
Regards
Brian
Sir Thomas Bent
Minister for Railways
Location: Banned
About 12 years ago, was in Tarcoola when it was actually a town with a school, a functioning pub and a cop shop.
Anyway, 7SP5 came thundering through and we duly photographed same. Heading back to said Wilgena Hotel - now sadly closed along with the town - we were talking to the aforementioned walloper when on his radio comes a call for him to bugger orf to Mount Christie. So, off he goes and that's the last we see of him.
Turns out that he comes back with two very sad and sorry looking blokes from somewhere near Penrith; they wanted to hitch a ride to Lithgow, and got stuck - the train hadn't stopped that long when at Mount Christie, they poked their heads up just as something went past.
They were lucky; apparently quite a few people get crushed to death between containers or freeze or dehydrate...
Heard other stories; someone trying to jump on a container train with a series of empty flats I think at Sunshine about 5 years ago - they chose to jump just as a skeletal car went across, went straight through a hole and got flattened.
One of the biggest reasons why the state railways so discouraged people from "jumping the rattler" during the Depression was simply the death rate. People used to suffocate if they hopped under a tarped wagon loaded with grain - they'd sink under into the grain, or fall off getting on or often fall off perched on the end vestibule of a trailing pass car.
That having been said: we do have a much shorter history of interest in riding on the exposed parts of trains.
We just call it train-surfing.
Anyway, 7SP5 came thundering through and we duly photographed same. Heading back to said Wilgena Hotel - now sadly closed along with the town - we were talking to the aforementioned walloper when on his radio comes a call for him to bugger orf to Mount Christie. So, off he goes and that's the last we see of him.
Turns out that he comes back with two very sad and sorry looking blokes from somewhere near Penrith; they wanted to hitch a ride to Lithgow, and got stuck - the train hadn't stopped that long when at Mount Christie, they poked their heads up just as something went past.
They were lucky; apparently quite a few people get crushed to death between containers or freeze or dehydrate...
Heard other stories; someone trying to jump on a container train with a series of empty flats I think at Sunshine about 5 years ago - they chose to jump just as a skeletal car went across, went straight through a hole and got flattened.
One of the biggest reasons why the state railways so discouraged people from "jumping the rattler" during the Depression was simply the death rate. People used to suffocate if they hopped under a tarped wagon loaded with grain - they'd sink under into the grain, or fall off getting on or often fall off perched on the end vestibule of a trailing pass car.
That having been said: we do have a much shorter history of interest in riding on the exposed parts of trains.
We just call it train-surfing.
nm39
Chief Commissioner
Location: By a road taking pictures
My personal opinion of people who "ride the rattler" is that this is self correcting behaviour of the Darwinian variety. Hopefully they will have self corrected before they procreate, thus removing their defective genetics from the gene pool.
TheLoneGunMan
Assistant Commissioner
Location: At NF88.7 taking pictures
Hi Bevans,
Unlike most on here, I like their spirit of adventure. In different parts of the world, you can catch trains like a hobo and not pay the ultimate price for the experience. I've often thought about hopping a freight and seeing where I end up, the only reason I haven't done it, I'm not worried about being caught, its more if the train was involved in a crash or derailment that scares me the most.
Mike P
P.S, I have a copy of that dvd on order
Unlike most on here, I like their spirit of adventure. In different parts of the world, you can catch trains like a hobo and not pay the ultimate price for the experience. I've often thought about hopping a freight and seeing where I end up, the only reason I haven't done it, I'm not worried about being caught, its more if the train was involved in a crash or derailment that scares me the most.
Mike P
P.S, I have a copy of that dvd on order
davo_1620
Chief Commissioner
Location: Nearest bottle shop or pub.
Try the North Borneo railway.
They have a flat car between the loco and passenger coaches, well, more boxes, where you can enjoy the trip up the Padas River gorge at a leisurely rate.
Its very common in Indonesia, a payment of a dollar to the guard will get you wherever the train is going.
Some trains don't have a van, so the guard, and maybe a few of his mates ride outside as well.
Its the best way to enjoy the mountain scenery.
North Borneo
Indonesia
Burma is another country for it, they just put a heap of freight wagons together when lacking passenger coaches, and away you go.
And of course, who can forget South America?
They have a flat car between the loco and passenger coaches, well, more boxes, where you can enjoy the trip up the Padas River gorge at a leisurely rate.
Its very common in Indonesia, a payment of a dollar to the guard will get you wherever the train is going.
Some trains don't have a van, so the guard, and maybe a few of his mates ride outside as well.
Its the best way to enjoy the mountain scenery.
North Borneo
Indonesia
Burma is another country for it, they just put a heap of freight wagons together when lacking passenger coaches, and away you go.
And of course, who can forget South America?
davo_1620
Chief Commissioner
Location: Nearest bottle shop or pub.
Bollocks, picked the wrong size.
Here we go again.
Better now lah.
Here we go again.
Better now lah.
Sir Thomas Bent
Minister for Railways
Location: Banned
Hi Bevans,The train--surfers at one of the high schools I went to were admired by some students for the exact same reasons.
Unlike most on here, I like their spirit of adventure.
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
It looks like a very interesting cast and crew to say the least ...
http://www.catchingout.com
The DVD I ordered last year has finally arrived.
http://gallery.railpage.org/index.php/Misc/04012010147
Regards
Brian
x31
Chief Commissioner
Location: gallifrey
Valvegear
Dr Beeching
Location: Norda Fittazroy
Riding the rattler was apparently commonplace during and/or just after the war. The late Lloyd Holmes told of an occasion when he was on a night shift as a Train Examiner in the Melbourne yards, when a bloke carrying a fox terrier dog appeared, looking for a wagon ticketed to Irymple. He found one and climbed aboard under a corner of the tarpaulin. Lloyd put his telescope to his Nelsonian blind eye and saw nothing.
7334
Chief Commissioner
Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
Riding the rattler was apparently commonplace during and/or just after the war. The late Lloyd Holmes told of an occasion when he was on a night shift as a Train Examiner in the Melbourne yards, when a bloke carrying a fox terrier dog appeared, looking for a wagon ticketed to Irymple. He found one and climbed aboard under a corner of the tarpaulin. Lloyd put his telescope to his Nelsonian blind eye and saw nothing.Not to mention during the great depression.
It was not a case of people not wanting to pay the fare, they simply could not because they had no money.
My grandfather was a driver through those years and he told me that it was not uncommon to find stowaways on goods trains.