What needs to be done to make rail work?

 
  mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
OK everybody, a brainstorm. What must be done to make rail a real viable option, get every single semi off the freeways (leaving smaller trucks for local delivery) and cut car usage by something drastic like 90%? I know there's heaps, just put down the most important things. Then we'll forcibly sign John Howard and several members of his cabinet up to the forums!

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  deaftech Junior Train Controller

Location: Belgrave
OK everybody, a brainstorm. What must be done to make rail a real viable option, get every single semi off the freeways (leaving smaller trucks for local delivery) and cut car usage by something drastic like 90%? I know there's heaps, just put down the most important things. Then we'll forcibly sign John Howard and several members of his cabinet up to the forums!
"mjja"


For starters, enforcing laws as regards hours, speeds, drug taking etc. for truckies.  With modern technology this could be done very easily.  In Europe, this sort of control has been in place for decades, as of course, it has been on railways.  But in Australia, the cowboys have reigned supreme on the road, which also is to the disadvantage of honest truckies.  

Again following Europe's example, increase fuel and road charges to reflect the true cost, including the enviromental cost of road transport.
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  mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
OK everybody, a brainstorm. What must be done to make rail a real viable option, get every single semi off the freeways (leaving smaller trucks for local delivery) and cut car usage by something drastic like 90%? I know there's heaps, just put down the most important things. Then we'll forcibly sign John Howard and several members of his cabinet up to the forums!
"mjja"


For starters, enforcing laws as regards hours, speeds, drug taking etc. for truckies.  With modern technology this could be done very easily.  In Europe, this sort of control has been in place for decades, as of course, it has been on railways.  But in Australia, the cowboys have reigned supreme on the road, which also is to the disadvantage of honest truckies.  

Again following Europe's example, increase fuel and road charges to reflect the true cost, including the enviromental cost of road transport.
"deaftech"


As well, I think trucks need to pay big licence fees. According to the ARA (www.ara.net.au) a fully loaded B-double does as much damage to the road as 20,000 cars! If that's so, why not make them pay 20,000 times as much for the privilege of using the roads?

Actually I don't know why the politicians haven't done this. The truckies can't represent too big a slab of the voters, and it would be big money...
  jm1941 Chief Commissioner

Location: Mount Gambier
Actually I don't know why the politicians haven't done this.
"mjja"

Trains do not make them money, but road transport is big bucks to the pollies, (fuel alone etc) why do you think the Govt got rid of railways. There money bin is never been so full. Who lobbies the Govt if Road Transport has a hiccup, or there is slight threat to it.
Remember the original "Railways of Australia" that was to be when it was first though off, was to be one gauge, one organization, the Road and Rail could have run hand in hand. An easy workable situation. "That train now dun gone."
Opps, as usual the damage is done and the answer is far to easy to fix, to simple, but govts do not like simple answers. Those who think they are important, like complicated answers, makes them feel important and solves nothing.  But to reverse it now would cost huge bucks to correct, so its the cat continues chasing its tail now.
Plus the Govt invented a new word "Competition", Hmmm just look at our Banks, Electricity, Water, etc etc etc, all in the name of competition, but what Competition,,,,, where......... only to see who can compete for the highest price and more profits for those who invest in the stock markets, not the users. There is No control, No regulations, just open book to regulate yourself and rip the system off at any cost.  Sorry just sore factual point that we (the ordinary man in the street) all know this and cannot do sweet nothing about, but talk about WHAT... SHOULD....  BE..  and isn't.

The truckies can't represent too big a slab of the voters, and it would be big money...
"mjja"

It has nothing to do with Voters. IF you had a Govt who went to the polls with lets put semi's on Trains with trucks off the road as its main agenda and they were voted into power, nothing would change. Oh there would be several million dollar programs to look into it, but as time went on nothing would really change, and in 10 years you and I will still be saying, "this is what it should have been" and we come back to your first question, "Actually I don't know why the politicians haven't done this."

All this said, I'm not against Road Transport, as everything has its overall part to play that is best for all, and the environment also. We just got to grin and bear it, and meantime gives us something to do typing, "Why Is It So"  Laughing

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