Effective immediately, is the new Railpage Australia™ policy now restricting the individual members posting of Special/Heritage Train Timetables, whether in the form of RailCorp STNs, ARTc TAAs, MTM/V/Line S Circulars, and special timetables of any tourist railway to the following conditions.
[b]1) Direct 'cut-and-paste' postings of [i]Mainline[/i] Timetables from original railway issued documents and/or direct links to these documents is no longer permitted on these forums, on the following grounds:[/b]
*These Documents issued by the railway authorities are intended for Railway Employees and Those Concerned only, NOT for wide distribution to railway enthusiasts and especially not to be publically released on the internet.
*The documents themselves are not easily readable to the majority of members who aren't well conversed to railway operations
*Some documents contain confidential information which posters seemingly do not remove (I.e. AK Car Telephone numbers)
*The increasing 'competition' between members to first release train times is becoming irritating towards the rest of the membership, particularly the childish flame wards to occur afterwards.
[b]2) Disclosure of special train times from documents authored by [i]Tourist Railways[/i] that are 'sold' to photographers/enthusiasts will also not be permitted here, on moral grounds that it deprives the society of income.[/b]
[b]3) Posting of [i]Mainline[/i] Special Train Timetables, are permitted to be disclosed by an authorised Manager/Director of the Operator/Charterer Only, NOT a volunteer associated with the train/charter whether working aboard the train or not.[/b]
Railpage Australia™ Management are aware of who officially represents or is authorised to disclosed such information.
[b]4) Posting of Special Train timetables, is still permitted by individual Railpage Australia™ members, but on the provision they have summarised the Timetable to primarily include the main times of the train passing certain locations.[/b]
This is to include 'pass', 'arrival', 'departure' times, and any other information significant to the train's operation such as coaling and watering and the like. Any embellishments to the summary such as altered times and the like will be treated as direct misinformation and the user warned accordingly
[b]5) Train Timetables and Summaries listed on the websites of the operating society/charterer are indeed welcome to be reposted here, as long as the website link/source is credited[/b].
[b]6) All times posted on this forum are to be treated with a grain of salt, and may not be the correct or accurately posted at the time. Railpage Australia™ is not responsible for your reliance on this[/b].
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[b]7) Railpage Australia™ Management and Administration reserve the right to restrict or remove the posting of ANY timetable on any grounds, particularly if it has been requested by a rail authority and/or the representative of a society. For a great example, refer to [url=http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1302514.htm#1302514]this thread[/url]
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[color=black]Recent examples of acceptable and unacceptable postings of timetables are the following:[/color]
[quote="Acceptable example courtesy of Sydney_Gunzel"]
[b]6L61[/b]
Sydney Terminal depart 0824
Strathfield 0840
Lidcombe 0848
Granville 0854
Westmead 0900
Blacktown 0911
Penrith 0935
Valley Heights 1000
Lawson 1030
Katoomba 1049
Mt Victoria 1106
Lithgow CS 1137
Wallerawang 1154
Bathurst 1309
[b]6L65[/b]
Bathurst 1531
Tarana 1616
Wallerawang 1647
Lithgow CS 1704
Mt Victoria 1733
Katoomba 1750
Springwood 1832
Penrith 1903
Blacktown 1929
Westmead 1944
Granville 1952
Lidcombe 1959
Strathfield 2009
Sydney Terminal 2021.[/quote]
[quote="Acceptable summary of a V/Line S Circular"]8540 departs Newport at 0932
Down Trains:
FFS - 8541 dep 0955 arr Mitcham 1035
CAM - 8543 dep 1115 arr MIT 1135
CAM - 8549 dep 1315 arr MIT 1335
CAM - 8551 dep 1415 arr MIT 1435
CAM - 8553 dep 1515 arr MIT 1535
Up Trains:
MIT - 8542 dep 1042 arr CAM 1105
MIT - 8550 dep 1145 arr CAM 1205
MIT - 8552 dep 1345 arr CAM 1405
MIT - 8554 dep 1445 arr CAM 1505
MIT - 8556 dep 1545 arr CAM 1605 run to FSS
8557 dep FSS 1628 arr NPT 1656[/quote]
An unacceptable cut-and-paste method can look like the following:
[quote="Unacceptable direct cut-and-paste of an ARTC TAA"]9L02 on Thu 31/12/2010 will depart Canberra 0920, arrive Queanbeyan 0935, g, u, depart
0940, arrive Bungendore 1031, g, depart 1100, arrive Tarago 1139, g, depart 1144, arrive
Goulburn 1225, g, depart 1235, pass Medway Junction 1305, Bundanoon 1329, Moss Vale
1345, Bowral 1353, Mittagong 1357, Bargo 1422, Picton 1436, Macarthur 1459, thence as
tabled by RailCorp.
9L03 on Fri 01/01/2010 will run as tabled by RailCorp to pass Macarthur 0335, Picton 0404,
Bargo 0425, Mittagong 0509, Bowral 0514, Moss Vale 0523, Bundanoon 0538, Medway
Junction 0605, arrive Goulburn 0636, g, depart 0641, arrive Tarago 0720, g, depart 0808,
arrive Bungendore 0842, g, depart 0845, arrive Queanbeyan 0932, g, d, depart 0937, arrive
Canberra 0955, stable at ARHS Depot.
Train Consist: 2 x Locomotives and Cars
Length: 370m
Weight: Up to 640 tonnes[/quote]
And can we stress we still strongly encourage train timetables to be shared for the wider community benefit of heading out to photograph it and/or see it through.
We however are putting order in on how these times are shared through requests and suggestions made by associates and contacts of Railpage Australia™ Management both within the rail industry and preservation community primarily in Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland.
This policy, although effective and enforced immediately, is open to suggestions and ideas as long as it is civil and has substance.
Thank you for your cooperation.[/edit]