QANTAS Lockout

 
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
Qantas grounds all flights

October 29, 2011 - 5:26PM

Qantas will lock out all its employees covered by the agreements that are currently in dispute.

And it has grounded its entire domestic and international fleets indefinitely.

‘‘We are locking out until the unions withdraw their extreme claim and reach agreement with us,’’ Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce told a press conference today.

"This course of action has been forced upon us ... by the actions of three unions," Mr Joyce said.

"The ball is in their court.

"They have to decide how badly they want to hurt Qantas.

"We will provide full refunds to those who choose to cancel their flights."

Mr Joyce said his hand had been tipped by the impossible demands of the three unions.

‘‘They are trashing our strategy and our brand,’’ he said.

‘‘They are deliberately destabilising the company and there is no end in sight.’’

If the industrial action continued, Qantas would have no choice but to shut down its business ‘‘part by part’’, the chief executive said.

He believed the lock out and grounding of the fleet was the only effective avenue at his disposal to bring about a solution to the dispute.

Mr Joyce said he was sorry the course of action had become necessary but the ball was now in the unions’ court.

‘‘They must decide just how badly they want to hurt Qantas, their members ... and the travelling public,’’ he said.

The airline will offer hotel accommodation and alternative flights to those who are mid-journey and cannot get home when the grounding takes effect.

There will be refunds and ticket transfers available to passengers whose flights are cancelled.

Qantas will keep passengers updated on the situation via its website, Facebook page and Twitter.

The lockout will begin at 8pm AEDT on Monday.

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"The Age"

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  dkaarma Chief Train Controller

Wow.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Sounds like a typical CEO of a major company. Why did he deserve a pay rise?
  allan Chief Commissioner

Imagination!
  T347 Assistant Commissioner

Location: .
And this wasn't on the boards mind before their AGM?

Hmmmmmmmm
  bagus70 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wanting to revisit Australia again.
Beginning of the end....for Qantas...?
  3801_95 Junior Train Controller

just another knife in the coffin of the Gillard government
  Sprinterfresh Train Controller

Location: Knox or the Surf Coast
Why did he deserve a pay rise?
"Z1NorthernProgress2110"

I suspect it's the other way around. In hindsight, the ~97% approval for the pay rise at the AGM was a signal from institutional investors that Joyce had carte blanche to deal with the situation swiftly and mercilessly at great short-term cost to the company, without having to explicitly table the issue of "swiftly and mercilessly dealing with the union problem."
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Corporate greed at work.
Joyce gets a massive payrise, yet wont budge an inch with what his workers are asking, and now he's effectively closing down the company by immediately suspending all Qantas branded services and locking out all the workers with industrial issues as from Monday night.

Well done Joyce, if you achieve anything by your gutless actions, at least you have shown us what the worlds biggest dummy spit looks like.
  xke9600hp Train Controller

Another foreigner in charge of a 51% Autralian owned company delighted to give away Australian jobs.

Why can't his job be outsourced to Asia at a cheaper rate for the benefit of shareholders and passengers alike?
  Sprinterfresh Train Controller

Location: Knox or the Surf Coast
he's effectively closing down the company by immediately suspending all Qantas branded services
"xxxxlbear"

Only closing down the unprofitable parts of the company. Jetstar is still running.

As for attributing the decision to 'greed', that's a crass simplification which ignores how screwed Qantas is (or would be, without Jetstar).

Qantas International is losing close to a quarter of a billion dollars a year, while pilots are earning enviable multiples of their peers at international competitors. Joyce's choices are kill the Qantas brand or obtain unconditional submission from the unions - anything else will slowly boil the company alive or, more likely, see in the corporate raiders to tear out the profitable parts.
  Highrise Assistant Commissioner

Another foreigner in charge of a 51% Australian owned company delighted to give away Australian jobs.

Why can't his job be outsourced to Asia at a cheaper rate for the benefit of shareholders and passengers alike?
"xke9600hp"
Exactly, I'm sure a pilot on 200k a year in the same job could do an equal/better job than that what a man like Joyce on a multi-million dollar salary can as CEO.

But it's big business, the decision by Fair Work Australia tonight will shape how Union's tackle EBA's forever. If they rule that all industrial action cease immediately, you could pretty much kiss any future strike action by any union to be in the too hard basket, because if any union takes strike action and a vital services company is affected (or political in this case) then the government just steps in and makes the decision for everyone.

I find it disgusting that no mainstream news group is mentioning the one key reason to this strike action, the fact that Qantas are trying to outsource pilots. I bet if that was brought to light for the public to see, the union wouldn't be made out to be the bad ones like all these "experts" are trying to make them out to be. RIP Qantas, Alan Joyce has systematically sought to bring the company down.

I agree with with xxxxlbear, it wins the award for the worlds biggest dummy spit.
  borosa Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Someone shoot this idiot (Joyce) before it's too late!!!!
  xke9600hp Train Controller

As a Labour government sent the RAAF in to break the airlines strike in the 80s (?),  I wonder if they'll send a few Air Vice Marshalls in to the boardroom to break the board of QANTAS this time around for the good of the nation.
  sas85 Chief Commissioner

Location: V1
Absolutely sickening.

90 years down the drain
  sas85 Chief Commissioner

Location: V1
Is there anything Tony Abbott will not blame on Labour?
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
As a Labour government sent the RAAF in to break the airlines strike in the 80s (?),  I wonder if they'll send a few Air Vice Marshalls in to the boardroom to break the board of QANTAS this time around for the good of the nation.
"xke9600hp"

Bleeding the company dry is not good for the nation.

These are already some of the best paid pilots in the world.
  9034 Train Controller


Well done Joyce, if you achieve anything by your gutless actions, at least you have shown us what the worlds biggest dummy spit looks like.
"xxxxlbear"


His actions are anything but gutless.   It would be so easy to roll over and give the unions what they want.  But that would not be in the long term interest of Qantas.

9034
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
As a Labour government sent the RAAF in to break the airlines strike in the 80s (?),  I wonder if they'll send a few Air Vice Marshalls in to the boardroom to break the board of QANTAS this time around for the good of the nation.
"xke9600hp"

Bleeding the company dry is not good for the nation.

These are already some of the best paid pilots in the world.
"ZH836301"


Yes so lets sack them all and get some third world barely qualified types in yep that will save the company Rolling EyesRolling EyesRolling Eyes
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
As a Labour government sent the RAAF in to break the airlines strike in the 80s (?),  I wonder if they'll send a few Air Vice Marshalls in to the boardroom to break the board of QANTAS this time around for the good of the nation.
"xke9600hp"

Bleeding the company dry is not good for the nation.

These are already some of the best paid pilots in the world.
"ZH836301"


71% pay rise for the CEO to the tune of many millions.....yep thats good should be more of it then we can employe more monkeys as pilots.
  borosa Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney

Well done Joyce, if you achieve anything by your gutless actions, at least you have shown us what the worlds biggest dummy spit looks like.
"xxxxlbear"


His actions are anything but gutless.   It would be so easy to roll over and give the unions what they want.  But that would not be in the long term interest of Qantas.

9034
"9034"


Sure, he's not gutless, just spineless and with more contempt than I think i've ever seen before. Taking a 71% payrise in the face of everything that is going down would have to be one of the most brazen, thoughtless, brainless acts i've ever witnessed!

As 42101 said, replacing some of the worlds best pilots (and that'd be one reason that they're so well paid) with Asian wannabe's will do nothing for the reputation of the worlds safest airline!
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
First Ansett, now Qantas, except Qantas did it to themselves, voluntary.

What airline willingly strands tens of thousands of their passengers, not to mention the bad publicity in an attempt to stifle lawful industrial action?

Joyce needs to realize Qantas isn't the only airline around, and if they can't, or now *WON'T* provide a service, I'm sure the likes of Defence and big business will happily switch to Virgin.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
First Ansett, now Qantas, except Qantas did it to themselves, voluntary.

What airline willingly strands tens of thousands of their passengers, not to mention the bad publicity in an attempt to stifle lawful industrial action?

Joyce needs to realize Qantas isn't the only airline around, and if they can't, or now *WON'T* provide a service, I'm sure the likes of Defence and big business will happily switch to Virgin.
"KRviator"


Wallaby Airlines to the rescue....C17,s and C130J,s Syd Melb....ahhh nice. 8)  8)  8)
  borosa Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
First Ansett, now Qantas, except Qantas did it to themselves, voluntary.

What airline willingly strands tens of thousands of their passengers, not to mention the bad publicity in an attempt to stifle lawful industrial action?

Joyce needs to realize Qantas isn't the only airline around, and if they can't, or now *WON'T* provide a service, I'm sure the likes of Defence and big business will happily switch to Virgin.
"KRviator"


Wallaby Airlines to the rescue....C17,s and C130J,s Syd Melb....ahhh nice. 8)  8)  8)
"42101"


Chutes and jump straps included in the fare. Very Happy
  xke9600hp Train Controller

Bleeding the company dry is not good for the nation.

These are already some of the best paid pilots in the world.
"ZH836301"


You're right!

Lets all give up our jobs to someone who'll work for less,  it makes perfect sense to have foreigners with only $$$$ interest in coming here taking all our jobs.  Our kids can serve them fries with their McDonalds or maybe get a tip shining their shoes.  

It has already happenned with the construction industry - hoardes of foreign tilers and plasterers here on good Union fought and won wages sending it all overseas.  They are proud and happy to be building our buildings for us and ready to lay down their (tiles) for our country.

That will be good for our nation, after we're all on 3rd world wages, then maybe we can get used to living by 3rd world standards.  What do you do ZH836301?  Maybe you could give your job up to a foreigner - after all he needs it more than you - good move!

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