2012 Hunter Valley Steam Fest/operations

 
  Naz Train Controller

Im planning on  making it to the valley this year for the event. Im after shots of the steamers but also want to catch some coal and freight action as well. Is there much coal and frieght down that way on the weekends? What is the busiest day of the week for the hunter, I have heard it is Thursday?

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  poppins122325 Chief Train Controller

Location: Hunter Valley
Hi Naz,

Any day is a good day for coal up here, for freight im not entirely sure best to check the artc mtp im guessing for a fair idea. Which can be found here: http://www.artc.com.au/Content.aspx?p=160

If your after steamers a draft timetable can be found here : http://www.steamfest.com.au/Resources/Documents/Steam-v2.pdf.

Best left to the more experienced to answer your freight question but i hope that helps a little. I will be there myself for the coal and the freight and the steam is a bit of a bonus haha.

Nathan.
  Naz Train Controller

thanks, at least if i go for the fest there will be trains to photograph. Last time i went to the hunter there were track closures Crying or Very sad
  poppins122325 Chief Train Controller

Location: Hunter Valley
nope trackwork has been last week and this week, just hope they got it right :S
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse


I'll be attending the Steamfest, besides the train excursions and the RVRM, what about the East Greta Workshops, seeing both the class leader SMR 10 and her sister SMR 18 displayed outside the workshops, last time they did that was in 2007, but the organisers didn't think of that so I probably wouldn't happen.

Additionally, Railfans can travel over to Branxton and see the HVRT or Gunzels, videoing or taking photos of the daily trains in the Hunter Valley.

Who else is going?
  greggles3265 Beetroot

Location: Wonton Palace

I'll be attending the Steamfest, besides the train excursions and the RVRM, what about the East Greta Workshops, seeing both the class leader SMR 10 and her sister SMR 18 displayed outside the workshops, last time they did that was in 2007, but the organisers didn't think of that so I probably wouldn't happen.

Additionally, Railfans can travel over to Branxton and see the HVRT or Gunzels, videoing or taking photos of the daily trains in the Hunter Valley.

Who else is going?
"jt393"


Im am definatley going this year, along with a couple of other gunzels (BM3801 and railsymphony) and are pretty much doing ever trip. I am most keen for the Paterson run and the Stround Road run. Lots of footage and photos to be taken.
  244hseriesalco Chief Train Controller

Hi All,

Happy to confirm that 4001 will be leading 44211 & 4490 on the empty cars movement ex Thirlmere and return. It wont play any part in the Steam fest event but will most likely be stabled in Maitland yard.

No timetable as yet, but departs Thirlmere about an hour after the steam engines on Friday 27th and departs Maitland some time Sunday 29th afternoon after the last trains of the day.

Regards.
  BM3801 Lobster

Location: Go Hard or Go Home!
departs Maitland some time Sunday 29th afternoon after the last trains of the day. Regards.
"244hseriesalco"


I assume the steamers will be heading home on the Sunday as well then?
  hellraiser Chief Train Controller

Location: Newcastle, NSW
Usually the steam trains go home monday morning we filmed them at warnervale and cowan last year
  poppins122325 Chief Train Controller

Location: Hunter Valley
AFAIK when 3830 was last up she headed back on with the other steamers in tow on the sunday night leaving the diesels to haul the other other car sets back later on
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
I will go for a look most likely in the mornings and in the afternoon you can all get photo's of me as I will be on the trains.
  NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wahroonga NSW
departs Maitland some time Sunday 29th afternoon after the last trains of the day. Regards.
"244hseriesalco"


I assume the steamers will be heading home on the Sunday as well then?
"BM3801"

Here are the timings for the ARTC lines.

Friday 27th April 2012

6S60 dep Thirlmere 0920, arr Thirlmere (Frame A) 0925, g, dep 0935, arr Picton
(Frame C 0955), g, dep 10.00, pass Picton 1002, Menangle 1020, Macarthur 1030.

6S61 pass Islington Junction 1532, Warabrook 1538, Sandgate 1540, Thornton 1550,
arr Maitland (Platform 1) 1600, shunt to yard, stable No 1 road..

Consist of 6S60/6S61 Thirlmere - Maitland: Steam locomotive 3642, Steam
locomotive 3526, Steam locomotive 3265 (Light Steam), SWT, SWT, VHO, LAN, NAM,
ABS, PHA
Maximum Speed: 40 km/h Thirlmere - Picton; 80 km/h Picton - Maitland
Maximum Length: 199 metres

6L60 dep Thirlmere 1150, arr Thirlmere (Frame A) 1155, g, dep 1200, arr Picton
(Frame C) 1220, g, dep 1225, pass Picton 1227, Menangle 1243, Macarthur 1251.

6L61 Islington Junction 1700, Warabrook 1706, Sandgate 1708, Thornton 1717,
Maitland 1725, arr Telarah Loop 1729, detach cars, shunt to No 1 down siding,
reverse, form 6L62.

Consist of 6L60/6L61 Thirlmere - Maitland: 2 x suitable mainline diesel
locomotives, HN, FS, FS, FS, GMS, MCA, MBE, FS , MFS, EFS, RFN, CN, HN
Maximum Speed: 40 km/h Thirlmere - Picton; 100 km/h Picton - Maitland
Maximum Length: 309 metres

6L62 dep Telarah 1815, arr Maitland platform 1, 1821, shunt to yard, stable No 3
and No4 goods sidings.

Consist of 6L62 Telarah - Maitland: 2 x suitable mainline diesel locomotives HN,
CN, RFN, EFS, MFS, FS, MBE, MCA, GMS
Maximum Speed: 40 km/h Thirlmere - Picton; 100 km/h Telarah - Maitland
Maximum Length: 227 metres

Sat 28th April 2012

Car Set A - Steam Loco’s 3526, 3265 Distributed Power

6S61 dep Maitland Yard 0925, arr Maitland Platform 1, 0927, reverse, shunt to
Platform 4, form 6S63

6S63 dep Maitland Platform 4, 1000, arr Branxton 1022, form 6S64.

6S64 dep Branxton 1027, arr Maitland Platform 4, 1102 dep 1130, (XUM) pass
Thornton 1146, Sandgate 1158, Warabrook 1205, Islington Junction 1209.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

6S65 pass Islington Junction 1252, Warabrook 1257, Sandgate 1259, Thornton 1309,
(XDL) arr Maitland Platform 4, 1320 dep 1345, (XDM) arr Branxton 1407, form
6S66.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

6S66 dep Branxton 1412, arr Maitland 1447 dep 1500, (XUM) pass Thornton 1516,
Sandgate 1534, Warabrook 1537, Islington Junction 1547.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

6S67 pass Islington Junction 1622, Warabrook 1627, Sandgate 1629, Thornton 1639,
(XUM) arr Maitland Platform 1, 1650, shunt to yard, stable.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

Consist 6S61-6S67: Steam Locomotive 3526, HN, CN, RFN, EFS, MFS, SWT, Steam
Locomotive 3265. Maximum length 154m

Car Set B - Steam Loco’s 3642

6S81 dep Maitland Yard 1000, arr Maitland Platform 1, 1002, dep 1010, arr
Telarah 1015, x, dep 1024, arr Paterson Loop 1049, run around, form 6S82.

6S82 dep Paterson Loop 1130, pass Telarah 1159, arr Maitland Platform 1, 1205
dep 1225, pass Thornton 1241, Sandgate 1256, Warabrook 1259, Islington Junction
1309.
Note##6BM4 to run on coal road from Maitland

6S83 pass Islington Junction 1342, Waratah 1345, (XDC) Warabrook 1348, Sandgate
1350, Thornton 1400, arr Maitland Platform 1, 1415 dep 1430, (XDNC) pass Telarah
1433, arr Paterson Loop 1449, run around, form 6S84.

6S84 dep Paterson 150, pass Mindaribba 1603, Telarah 1616, arr Maitland Platform
1, 1614, shunt to yard, stable No 3 goods siding.

Consist 6S81-6S84: Steam Locomotive 3642, SWT, FS, MBE, MCA, GMS. Maximum length 122m

Sun 29th April 2012

Car Set C - Steam Loco 3526

6S61 dep Maitland Yard 0720, pass Maitland 0722, arr Telarah Yard
0728, attach, form 6S62.

Consist 6S61: Steam Locomotive 3526, SWT

6S62 dep Telarah Yard 0802, arr Maitland Platform 1 0807 dep 0810, xuc, pass
Thornton 0826, Sandgate 0844, Warabrook 0847, Waratah 0850, (XUM) Islington
Junction 0854.

6S63 Great Train Race pass Islington Junction 1010, arr Hanbury Junction 1014,
Signal M104.30, wait start of race, dep 1015, pass Warabrook 1017, Sandgate
1020, Thornton 1030, arr Maitland Platform 2 1041, dep 1045, arr Telarah Loop
1048, run around, form 6S64.

6S64 dep Telarah Loop 1112, arr Maitland Platform 1 1117 dep 1136, pass Thornton
1150, Sandgate 1204, Warabrook 1207, Islington Junction 1214.

6S65 pass Islington Junction 1257, Warabrook 13032, Sandgate 1305, Thornton
1315, arr Maitland Platform 1 1326 dep 1332, arr Telarah Loop 1337, run around,
form 6S66.

6S66 dep Telarah Loop 1355, arr Maitland Platform 1 1400 dep 1421, pass Thornton
1435, Sandgate 1449, Warabrook 1452, Islington Junction 1459.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

6S67 pass Islington Junction 1540, Warabrook 1546, Sandgate 1548, Thornton 1558,
arr Maitland Platform 2 1609 dep 1611, arr Telarah Loop 1616, attach, run
around, shunt to Maitland Yard, stable.
Note## Parallel run with Hunter RailCar

Consist 6S62-6S67: Steam Locomotive 3526, SWT, FS, FS, FS, HN.

Car Set A - Steam Loco 3265 & Mainline Diesel in Distributed Power

6L72 dep Maitland Yard 0850, arr Maitland Platform 1 0852, dep 0900, pass
Thornton 0916, Sandgate 0934, Warabrook 0937, Islington Junction 0944.

Consist 6L72: 1 x suitable mainline diesel locomotive, MFS, EFS, RFN, CN, HN,
SWT, steam locomotive 3265 (Maximum Speed 40km/h)

6S73 Great Train Race pass Islington Junction 1006, Waratah 1009, xdc, arr
Hanbury Junction 1011 Signal C104.30, wait 6S63, wait start of race, dep 1015,
pass Warabrook 1017, Sandgate 1020, Thornton 1030, arr Maitland (Platform 4)
1041 dep 1100, arr Branxton 1122, form 6S74.

6D93 pass Islington Junction 1011, arr Waratah 1014, wlc, dep 1017, pass
Warabrook 1022, Sandgate 1025, Thornton 1035, arr Maitland (Platform 4) 1045,
attach to 6S73.

6S74 dep Branxton 1127, arr Maitland Platform 4 1202, form 6S75.

6S75 dep Maitland Platform 4 1230, arr Branxton 1252, form 6S76.

6S76 dep Branxton 1257, arr Maitland Platform 4 1332, form 6S77.

6S77 dep Maitland Platform 4 1400, arr Branxton 1422, form 6S78.

6S78 dep Branxton 1427, arr Maitland Platform 4 1502, shunt to Telarah Yard.

Consist 6S73-6S78: 1 x NSWRTM mainline diesel locomotive, HN, CN, RFN, EFS, MFS,
SWT, Steam Locomotive 3265

Car Set B - Steam Loco 3642 Barrington Bullet & Stroud Road Shuttle

6S81 dep Maitland Yard 1000, arr Maitland Platform 1 1002, dep 1022, pass
Telarah 1026, Mindaribba 1035, Paterson 1046, Kilbride 1055, Wallarobba Loop
1107, arr Dungog Back Platform 1120, d, x, dep 1131, arr Stroud Road (Loop)
1205, reverse, form 6S82.

6S82 dep Stroud Road 1230, pass Monkerai 1253, Dungog North 1303, arr Dungog
Back Platform 1306, water Loco, dep 1355, pass Wallarobba Loop 1414, arr
Kilbride 1428, x, dep 1449, pass Paterson 1504, Mindaribba 1518, Telarah 1530,
arr Maitland Platform 1 1538, shunt to Telarah Yard.

Consist 6S81-6S82: Steam Locomotive 3642, SWT, TBC, MBE, MCA, GMS

6L83 dep Maitland Yard (Propelling) 1650, pass Maitland Platform 1 1653, arr
Telarah 1659, attach to consist, form 6L90.

Empty Train - Return

6L90 dep Telarah Yard 1830, arr Maitland Platform 1 1835 dep 1840, pass Thornton
1851, Sandgate 1904, Warabrook 1905, Islington Junction 1910.

6L91 pass Macarthur 2310, arr Picton 2338, shunt to up main line, dep 2343, arr
Picton Frame C 2345, g, dep 2350, arr Thirlmere 0020, 30/04/2011 stable.

Consist of 6L90/6L91 Telarah - Thirlmere: 2 x suitable mainline diesel
locomotives, GMS, MCA, MBE, FS, MFS, EFS, RFN, CN, HN, FS, FS, FS, HN
Maximum Speed: 100 km/h Telarah - Picton, 40 km/h Picton - Thirlmere;
Maximum Length: 309 metres

Mon 30th April 2012

6S60 dep Maitland Yard 0915, pass Thornton 0926, Sandgate 0938, Warabrook 0940,
Islington Junction 0945.

6S61 arr Macarthur 1443, wlc, dep 1450, arr Picton 1521, shunt to up main line,
dep 1526, arr Picton Frame C 1528, g, dep 1533, arr Thirlmere 1603, stable.

Consist of 6S60 / 6S61 Maitland - Thirlmere: Steam locomotive 3642 (engine
first), steam locomotive 3526 (engine first), steam locomotive 3265 (engine
first in light steam), SWT, SWT, VHO, NAM, LAN, ABS, PHA
Maximum Speed: 80 km/h Maitland - Picton; 40 km/h Picton - Thirlmere
Maximum Length: 199m


  244hseriesalco Chief Train Controller


departs Maitland some time Sunday 29th afternoon after the last trains of the day. Regards.
"244hseriesalco"


I assume the steamers will be heading home on the Sunday as well then?
"BM3801"

Here are the timings for the ARTC lines.

Friday 27th April 2012

Consist of 6S60/6S61 Thirlmere - Maitland: Steam locomotive 3642, Steam
locomotive 3526, Steam locomotive 3265 (Light Steam), SWT, SWT, VHO, LAN, NAM,
ABS, PFZ


Consist of 6L60/6L61 Thirlmere - Maitland: 3x suitable mainline diesel
locomotives, HN, FS, FS, FS, GMS, MCA, MBE, FS , MFS, EFS, RFN, CN, HN
Maximum Speed: 40 km/h Thirlmere - Picton; 100 km/h Picton - Maitland
Maximum Length: 309 metres

Consist of 6L62 Telarah - Maitland: 3x suitable mainline diesel locomotives HN,
CN, RFN, EFS, MFS, FS, MBE, MCA, GMS
Sat 28th April 2012



Consist of 6L90/6L91 Telarah - Thirlmere: 3x suitable mainline diesel
locomotives, GMS, MCA, MBE, FS, MFS, EFS, RFN, CN, HN, FS, FS, FS, HN



Mon 30th April 2012

Consist of 6S60 / 6S61 Maitland - Thirlmere: Steam locomotive 3642 (engine
first), steam locomotive 3526 (engine first), steam locomotive 3265 (engine
first in light steam), SWT, SWT, VHO, NAM, LAN, ABS, PFZ


"NotebookMan"


 

Above edited to include 3x Mainline diesel as per my previous post above (4001 4490 44211) and PFZ will be the power van for the AirCon crew cars. The above was the indicative consist and timetable the final document will be confirmed probably next week. The additional HN & 3x FS cars are on hire from the ARHS ACT and will be collected by 4001 & 4916 on Wednesday 25th April, departs Thirlmere approx 0600. And will be returned some time after return from Maitland by 4001 & ????.  

Regards 244hseriesalco.

 

 

  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Sounds like an excellent way to raise money, what a good idea!
  BM3801 Lobster

Location: Go Hard or Go Home!
Im watching the item, but I dont think I quite have the money to go for it  Wink Will be an awesome experience for the people that win it, goodluck!
  macey Assistant Commissioner

Location: Looking for where you live....
One for the rich people only.

Poor people do not apply.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
One for the rich people only.

Poor people do not apply.
"macey"


I don't see how this is a problem? I can't afford the oppertunity, but it's an excellent way to raise much needed money for maintenance and future restoration of locomotives and rolling stock. Considering this was previously unavaliable, then nothing has changed for those people without the money to pay for it. It's not like it went from being a "$5 raffle tickets to ride up front" to "ticket to the highest bidder", it's gone from "nobody up front except crew"* to "ticket to the highest bidder".

Some people really cannot be pleased.

*Obviously exceptions are made for people making videos about the steam locos, such as "NSW In Steam 20xx"
  a6et Minister for Railways

Wouldn't mind knowing where the money raised is going to.

IF its just a money raising thing for a council to use for whatever reason & purpose, personally I do not like it.  However, if the money raised is going towards the continuity of Steamfest & its future, or towards the mechanical work, coal etc for the festival thats another matter, but I think that it should be spelt out.
  greggles3265 Beetroot

Location: Wonton Palace
Wouldn't mind knowing where the money raised is going to.

IF its just a money raising thing for a council to use for whatever reason & purpose, personally I do not like it.  However, if the money raised is going towards the continuity of Steamfest & its future, or towards the mechanical work, coal etc for the festival thats another matter, but I think that it should be spelt out.
"a6et"



I totally agree with your comment. Wouldnt wanna spend large amounts of money towards something that we dont know where its going. But as you stated if it was towards Steamfest and the locos, sure why not Smile
  KngtRider Chief Commissioner

Location: http://www.nitroware.net
Wouldn't mind knowing where the money raised is going to.

IF its just a money raising thing for a council to use for whatever reason & purpose, personally I do not like it.  However, if the money raised is going towards the continuity of Steamfest & its future, or towards the mechanical work, coal etc for the festival thats another matter, but I think that it should be spelt out.
"a6et"


Given the amount of corporate sponsorship this year that is a fair request. Count how many times Toy.... appears on any instance of heir webpage or branding

Also thenews article says cabrides have gone as high as $1000 interstate. Que?  First I heard of any auctions  for cabrides at least on the mainline ?
  steam3801 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Newcastle
One for the rich people only.

Poor people do not apply.
"macey"


Good! That'll keep the riff-raff off the footplate. They can stay where they belong, line-side  or on the station (probably without a ticket, as usual).
  steam3801 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Newcastle
Given the amount of corporate sponsorship .....
"KngtRider"


Without which Steamfest would've folded years ago!!!!

Can't see anything wrong with their benefiting from their support of Steamfest (if, in fact they do. Pure conjecture and speculation - which seems to be the want of these forums - that this auction will benefit them, anyway).
  a6et Minister for Railways

Given the amount of corporate sponsorship .....
"KngtRider"


Without which Steamfest would've folded years ago!!!!

Can't see anything wrong with their benefiting from their support of Steamfest (if, in fact they do. Pure conjecture and speculation - which seems to be the want of these forums - that this auction will benefit them, anyway).
"steam3801"


Perhaps if you read what I said originally, then you would understand.  If there is corporate sponsorship for the event then its to be applauded, just as any sponsorship should be.

The basis of what I am saying is that its one thing to advertise a cab ride & to put it in the public arena in an auction, but surelly there should be a need to have the name of who is putting the auction in place & the beneficiary of the money raised also shown.  Nothing more & nothing less.

There is another aspect that actually concerns me in the auction & the way its conducted or should I say not shown, is the imdemnity aspect of being permitted into the cab of a locomotive.  Given the current rules regarding who & who can't ride in the cab, which also entails the safety of those in the workplace, nothing is shown in that regard.

What happens on the day when said winners role up to the engine, & are said they cannot ride owing to the OH& S rules or similar? It would create some nasty tastes in the mouths of the winners, even if they got a refund.  Remember this event is not on a private operated rail line, but very much one that has a lot more controls these days then when the NSWGR were able to issue cab permits.

Just in case I am jumped on & allegations that I do not want this to happen, that is not the case, as I beleive that every bit of forward thinking & attempts to raise money for the maintenance, restoration & continuation of steam operations is great & should be encouraged. & no! I don't want to ride in the cabs either as I used to get paid for working on the rotten things in full time employment, & I would never pay to set foot in the cab of one again.
  steam3801 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Newcastle
There is another aspect that actually concerns me in the auction & the way its conducted or should I say not shown, is the imdemnity aspect of being permitted into the cab of a locomotive.  Given the current rules regarding who & who can't ride in the cab, which also entails the safety of those in the workplace, nothing is shown in that regard.

What happens on the day when said winners role up to the engine, & are said they cannot ride owing to the OH& S rules or similar? It would create some nasty tastes in the mouths of the winners, even if they got a refund.  Remember this event is not on a private operated rail line, but very much one that has a lot more controls these days then when the NSWGR were able to issue cab permits.
"a6et"


It's all there, under "Requirements". Scroll down the eBay page.

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