Just to add more weight to what I was mentioning in my post above regarding employment centres along the NWRL/ ECRL/ LNS lines, I just noticed some Government figures that show with the employment areas this line will directly service, in 2006 (before the large increase in employment in the Macquarie Park area this NWRL directly services) Sydney CBD employment was at 429,000 jobs while the inner North and North West regions combined was at 504,000. The projections for employment to 2036 in the CBD is expected to be 543,000 jobs, while jobs in the inner North and North West regions that this line covers combined are expected to be 711,000! These figures suggest that connections for employment centres in the North and North west have a lot of weight even when compared to the CBD. The NWRL will be the best placed line to take advantage of these jobs and you would expect that a lot of movement would be happening on city bound trains from their start point at Rouse Hill as people get off to access these Northern Sydney employment zones, seats are not the huge issue they may seem. Compare this to say, the west and south west and you will have the vast majority people getting on trains at their station and staying on for long periods of time to reach the CBD and the Northern Sydney employment centres. Seats matters a lot more in that scenario.
Get out of this thread. Your smug brand of "facts" and "research" and "analysis" have no place amongst the foamers.
Anti-foamer sentiment aside, Rails's factual analysis along with that of grog has proven exceedingly helpful in understanding why the single-deck option is potentially less non-viable than initially believed.
i have done some drawing and seating designs and have come up with a desgn for a train that can work both metro and non metro. dimensions are waratah train dimemsions (length and width) with 25m long carriages. the train in a 3 door 6 car design.
my DD stock (6 car set)
seating: 798 (12 wheelchair spaces not included in figure)
waratah (8 car set)
seating: 896 (including 16 wheelchair spaces) (from reliance rail waratah fact sheet)
215 passengers less on my train but there are two advantages on my train.
the 3 doors will significantly improve traffic flow and decreased dwelling times
this is not an advantage as such but how can 1246 people stand on a waratah. i believe this number is overestimated.
You're trying to do the exact same thing I did four months ago. I get 832 seats, across seven cars, still fitting into 160m. I win