The comedy of eBay in the HO section. Part 2

 
  wrongroad Deputy Commissioner

Location: Grafton
Seriously, NR27 for the best part of a grand? 

No doubt some mug will pay that much for it! Rolling Eyes

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  Geekboy Train Controller

Location: Banned
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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Hey??http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/N-S-W-442-CLASS-DIESEL-ELECTRIC-NEW-NEVER-USED-HO-SCALE-/230888907148?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item35c20d218cDon't you just love it when people who have no idea of what it is that they're selling seem to have a pretty good idea of how to charge.........
"Geekboy"


Or are stupid enough to write "Pay pal available however buyer covers costs" in oversized letters in the item description. Said attempt to pass on paypal charges is a TOS'able offence. hmm, he's done it on his other current listing too, report filed with ebay Smile
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

Hey??http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/N-S-W-442-CLASS-DIESEL-ELECTRIC-NEW-NEVER-USED-HO-SCALE-/230888907148?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item35c20d218cDon't you just love it when people who have no idea of what it is that they're selling seem to have a pretty good idea of how to charge.........
"Geekboy"


Hang on a minute....something strange going on here.....need to go and check my 442 cos I'm sure it doesn't look like that. Is that a 40 Class?
  jd4980 Chief Commissioner

Location: Grafton
Hey??http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/N-S-W-442-CLASS-DIESEL-ELECTRIC-NEW-NEVER-USED-HO-SCALE-/230888907148?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item35c20d218cDon't you just love it when people who have no idea of what it is that they're selling seem to have a pretty good idea of how to charge.........
"Geekboy"


Which maybe the inoccence of an estate sell up or result of a theft.....

How would anyone find out for sure if they are buying stolen goods or not in the case of a listing like this ?
  Albert Chief Commissioner

Can someone explain how Lima 38s attract so much money? Been watching a couple and some have gone with in less than $100 of a Eureka model
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Can someone explain how Lima 38s attract so much money? Been watching a couple and some have gone with in less than $100 of a Eureka model
"Albert"


Maybe it's a reflection of the Eureka not being as good as people think (or hoped)...
  Duffy Chief Commissioner

Location: ACT


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DJH-NSWGR-HO-D55-Steam-Locomotive-Code-No-JT64-/181049180128?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item2a275f3fe0


Not quite sure why Bergs have put such a high price on this, given I could get one from AR Kits direct for $125 less?  Every retailer has the right to sell products at whatever price they see fit of course, but I would think most people that are in the market for a DJH 55 class are probably going to do a little research first?

  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DJH-NSWGR-HO-D55-Steam-Locomotive-Code-No-JT64-/181049180128?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item2a275f3fe0


Not quite sure why Bergs have put such a high price on this, given I could get one from AR Kits direct for $125 less?

"Duffy"


If you have a look at Berg's other ebay items you'll find they are ALL ridiculously expensive. I have no idea whether they actually sell any of their items via ebay....I guess it may be possible that some poor, unsuspecting, rich bloke/sheila could be tempted to hit the "BUY NOW" button before they do some research.

They have/had some nice brass diesels on their ebay shop site but given that the locos would be highly likely to need re-mechanising (those early gear towers were a type of diecast rubbish!!), I'd be looking at an extra $300- for a Hollywood Foundry mech, so that would make the price way too high for me!

There is an unpainted Mansfield 45 class on there at present (been there for many months) for $1,095-. Add $300 for the new mech and another $300 (?) to have it professionally painted; and I reckon I'll be hanging out for one of the manufacturers that we all know and love (to hate....hahaha) to bring in a plastic-fantastic r-t-r version for about $300-.

Roachie



  captaintoot Station Master


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DJH-NSWGR-HO-D55-Steam-Locomotive-Code-No-JT64-/181049180128?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item2a275f3fe0


Not quite sure why Bergs have put such a high price on this, given I could get one from AR Kits direct for $125 less?
"Duffy"


If you have a look at Berg's other ebay items you'll find they are ALL ridiculously expensive. I have no idea whether they actually sell any of their items via ebay....I guess it may be possible that some poor, unsuspecting, rich bloke/sheila could be tempted to hit the "BUY NOW" button before they do some research.

They have/had some nice brass diesels on their ebay shop site but given that the locos would be highly likely to need re-mechanising (those early gear towers were a type of diecast rubbish!!), I'd be looking at an extra $300- for a Hollywood Foundry mech, so that would make the price way too high for me!

There is an unpainted Mansfield 45 class on there at present (been there for many months) for $1,095-. Add $300 for the new mech and another $300 (?) to have it professionally painted; and I reckon I'll be hanging out for one of the manufacturers that we all know and love (to hate....hahaha) to bring in a plastic-fantastic r-t-r version for about $300-.

Roachie


"Roachie"


Given that ebay take 7.9 % plus listing fee plus paypal can be as much as 3.4% maybe the sensible shopper would contact the shop direct and may be surprised how much they could save.  And all that without having to wait up to 30 days for an auction to end why would you buy from Ebay?
Maybe it is the warm glow from the spin about paypal being the preferred way to pay online (compared to individual credit card brands LOL) not just Visa or Mastercard but individual credit card brands like Westpac, ANZ, Commonwealth and five hundred other brands.

That is how the market place has been conned and now only accepts paypal and ebay as effective (TRULY ROOLY safe ways to shop) and the sellers get ripped off every way.

It seems the days of building a relationship with a store owner and learning together are now just memories.
Instead buy it now from a pissy little picture and hope it works are the best way to go.

Yes EBAY RULES LOL ROFL
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Add to that the 'cross border fee' that Paypal charges when the transaction is in another country, and you have the most expensive payment system in the world.

Sure, the seller gets charged those fees, but yoyu would have to be very naive if you think they wont pass them on in the selling price of the item.

Paypal sucks.
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
In view of that rort by Paypal (3.4%) I am at a loss to understand why some sellers prefer that method to direct transfer via internet where they pay nothing.  I have in mind Toms, now Bobs Hobbies.  When I paid for my 48 class diseasels - you know the ones where we had to pay in full because it was a quick turnaround project?  - I paid by direct transfer and Eva sent me a receipt to say the transfer had been received.  That was a few years back.  Now they do not take the 100% option of direct transfer.  Payment by Paypal or credit card.

In both cases one or both parties get ripped off.  The credit card companies charge the vendor some fee, but I do not know how much.  The real sting come when I get my bill.  The rotten sods use an unconscionable exchange rate from Australian dollars to rupiah - the account currency.  Now I see that Paypal rips the vendor off.  So why in the world do they not accept a direct transfer?

Come to think of it Austrains is another vendor who does not take direct transfer.  What I do when using this method is a transfer using the internet with my Westpac account.  I print the transfer form as a PDF file then e-mail that to the vendor.  The remarks line on the transfer is either my name or the Invoice number as the vendor prefers.  He has the PDF file showing the amount transferred and when.  Simple matter to look at his account on line and see when that payment comes in.  I would wager no more work than dealing with Paypal or a credit card and far less cost to the vendor.

One can't tell people how to run their business though. 

Best regards,
John

PS.  I realise this is about flea bay and they force people to use expensive payment methods.  My rant is applicable to regular purchases from reputable businesses - not flea bay.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

In view of that rort by Paypal (3.4%) I am at a loss to understand why some sellers prefer that method to direct transfer via internet where they pay nothing.  I have in mind Toms, now Bobs Hobbies.  When I paid for my 48 class diseasels - you know the ones where we had to pay in full because it was a quick turnaround project?  - I paid by direct transfer and Eva sent me a receipt to say the transfer had been received.  That was a few years back.  Now they do not take the 100% option of direct transfer.  Payment by Paypal or credit card.

In both cases one or both parties get ripped off.  The credit card companies charge the vendor some fee, but I do not know how much.  The real sting come when I get my bill.  The rotten sods use an unconscionable exchange rate from Australian dollars to rupiah - the account currency.  Now I see that Paypal rips the vendor off.  So why in the world do they not accept a direct transfer?

Come to think of it Austrains is another vendor who does not take direct transfer.  What I do when using this method is a transfer using the internet with my Westpac account.  I print the transfer form as a PDF file then e-mail that to the vendor.  The remarks line on the transfer is either my name or the Invoice number as the vendor prefers.  He has the PDF file showing the amount transferred and when.  Simple matter to look at his account on line and see when that payment comes in.  I would wager no more work than dealing with Paypal or a credit card and far less cost to the vendor.

One can't tell people how to run their business though.

Best regards,
John

PS.  I realise this is about flea bay and they force people to use expensive payment methods.  My rant is applicable to regular purchases from reputable businesses - not flea bay.
"John_Bushell"


i imagine that the PayPal option is preferred because they offer a dispute facility that can also be used as a mediator....for the seller this might actually prove useful as most banks might not offer this option!!
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
...i imagine that the PayPal option is preferred because they offer a dispute facility that can also be used as a mediator....for the seller this might actually prove useful as most banks might not offer this option!!
"5711"

Yes true if you are buying on e-bay and I have already admitted I posted in the wrong Fred.  Humblest apologies.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
i imagine that the PayPal option is preferred because they offer a dispute facility that can also be used as a mediator....for the seller this might actually prove useful as most banks might not offer this option!!
"5711"


Yes, and that is yet another treason why I would not use PayPal. I do not need anyone to mediate for me, as I have a perfectly secure credit card payment gateway that does the work for me and charges minimal fees.

Why would it work better for the seller? As long as the money arrives in my account and I pay the least amount possible for that service, what do I care?


  allan Chief Commissioner

Paypal is great for buyers - I use it, but only on eBay. It is expensive, but the seller pays the fees, and if there is even the slightest doubt about the transaction the buyer gets his money back. Which, of course, is wide open to abuse.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
What transfers would you be gluing to the sides of an EL?
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
What transfers would you be gluing to the sides of an EL?
"Donald"



Why would you be glueing transfers on anyway?

Wayne
  captaintoot Station Master

Well in the current economic climate maybe he printed some freight australia or similar on plain paper.
Rule 1 is there are no rules for commonsense. LOL
Rule 2 Let he who has never made a mistake throw the first stone LOL
Rule 3 Does it really matter?
Rule 4 spend 250 on a loco and save a cuppla bucks printing your own decals.
Rule 5 Somebody can make an accident damaged loco a few bucks cheaper so treat it as an opportunity rather than a comedy.
Why do people have to be so unkind (sort of quoting Kamahl LOL)
  Captain Underpants Train Controller


Can someone explain how Lima 38s attract so much money? Been watching a couple and some have gone with in less than $100 of a Eureka model
"Albert"


Can any comment on this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281054447687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649. and maybe have an explaination as to why

  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)



Can someone explain how Lima 38s attract so much money? Been watching a couple and some have gone with in less than $100 of a Eureka model
"Albert"


Can any comment on this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281054447687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649. and maybe have an explaination as to why

"Captain Underpants"


I guess there are certain people out there who have no idea of the relative value/level of detail that various models attract. The only explanation I can think of is (for example) a well-meaning wife, whose husband or son has been asking for a green 38 class for a birthday pressie etc. Wifey fires-up the 'puter and jumps on ebay; searches "38 class" under hobbies and BINGO she wins the catch of the day!!

Other than that far-fetched account of what could have happened, I'm sorry but I have no idea.

Roachie

  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)

Here's another bargain....(NOT)!!! Great description too; obviously NOT a NSW modeller.....maybe a disgruntled wife selling off the old man's gear or could be an estate sale I guess.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Austrains-44-Class-Loco-Tuscan-/230919504911?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item35c3e0040f&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_949

  Captain Underpants Train Controller




Here's another bargain....(NOT)!!! Great description too; obviously NOT a NSW modeller.....maybe a disgruntled wife selling off the old man's gear or could be an estate sale I guess.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Austrains-44-Class-Loco-Tuscan-/230919504911?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item35c3e0040f&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_949

"Roachie"


Check out some of the other items from this seller. Interesting starting bids (NOT)!!!

  Duffy Chief Commissioner

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