Cranbourne - Clyde

 
  Impulse-Rail Station Master

Hi

Although technically not a Surburban line, I noticed that the flashing lights at the Cranbourne - Narre Warren Road
(Cranbourne East) were removed today.

The local paper said awhile ago that it could be 20 years before the line be extended to Clyde from Cranbourne.

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  712M Chief Commissioner

The Network Development Plan indicates that in the long-term they'd like to duplicate and extend the Cranbourne line to Clyde (while little extra capacity is added to the Caulfield - Dandenong line). I can't see this extension happening in my life time given that the current government can't sort out their priorities or even provide more than 2 return bus trips a weekday to Clyde. Clyde North is about to boom in population along the Berwick - Cranbourne Road, but there is still no bus service at all.  

Back to the crossing, it has been that way for a number of months now. Funnily enough the South Gippsland Hwy crossing has retained its signs and flashing lights despite the tracks being sealed over. I'm not sure if this crossing had boom gates before 1998?
  Impulse-Rail Station Master

Back to the crossing, it has been that way for a number of months now.
"712M"

The lights (Although not working) were definitely only removed this weekend, as I go over the hump in the road very regularly.


Clyde North is about to boom in population along the Berwick - Cranbourne Road
"712M"

It's a pity the lack of understanding the government have when it comes to this.
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

It's a pity the lack of understanding the government have when it comes to this.
Impulse-Rail
Isn't this an oxymoron?
  Impulse-Rail Station Master

Isn't this an oxymoron?
Bullucked
Razz
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The reality is though that any extension of the electrification beyond Cranbourne would more than likely require grade seperation, or at the very least, new lights and boom gates.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Hi

Although technically not a Surburban line, I noticed that the flashing lights at the Cranbourne - Narre Warren Road
(Cranbourne East) were removed today.

The local paper said awhile ago that it could be 20 years before the line be extended to Clyde from Cranbourne.
Impulse-Rail
I work at Casey Grammar which is adjacent to the railway.  Yes I can confirm the lights were only removed recently (with the attached crossing cabinet), as has the track across the road. A new concrete footpath has been constructed where the pedestrian crossing once was. Funnily enough a railway company is contracted to run hi-rail vehicle with track monitoring equipment on the remnants of the line once a week to check for any movement in the rail bed and tracks.  I asked one of the groundsmen at school about this as the hi-rail mounts and demounts the line just behind the school fence and he said it happens every week.  I'm not really sure of the merits of this as the line is basically derelict now and if the line was extended to Clyde the whole thing would have to be rebuilt anyway.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Any extension beyond the present Cranbourne terminus is going to require a complete rebuild of the old easement.  While it's status is "booked out" and not "closed" the difference is semantic since it is impossible to run a train over the route.  Much of it (all the way to Nyora where the SGR then has running rights) is beneath bitumen, earth, overgrown vegetation or has simply rotted away.  Recent road widening at Cranbourne East has effectively removed the road - rail crossing there meaning that would require grade separation as well as the South Gippsland Hwy crossing at Cranbourne.

Clyde retains its village atmosphere for now but not for much longer. Houses are being built at a rate of knots which will see it subsumed into the continuous suburbia which now extends all the way from Narre Warren North and will soon extend out to Five Ways and Devon Meadows.

It is a damning indictment of our several layers of government that such a huge expansion has been permitted without in-built public transport provision.  Buses in the City of Casey are among the least frequent and least-direct anywhere in the Melbourne region.  Clyde itself has only two trips on a one-way loop on school days. That is not a useable service in any meaningful context unless you happen to be at school in Cranbourne.  There are few or no links between the major centres and Casey Hospital, Casey Central (a misnomer if ever there was one) shopping centre, Cranbourne railway and through the new growth areas.  There are expensively-provided rail link buses running almost 24 hours a day which take slow and indirect routes through unlikely routes (Hunt Club Bvd surely can't generate that much traffic? ) which could be replaced by taxis and still have empty seats.

Yet the government who insist on perpetuating this wasteful provision cannot fund direct and regular links through the new houses which they authorise in order to offer residents a way of reaching shops, schools, employment and connecting to the railways.  In short we are driving (pun intended) the car-dependent society and with families often requiring two cars just to cope with competing needs of employment and education.

The Bracks "promise" to return trains to Gippsland should have been delivered upon.  The cost would have been high but it would have reinstated the line at a time when it could have been done more readily than is now the case.  Trains across open country don't upset anyone.  When the houses came the trains could have already been there.  Instead there may be a NIMBY backlash if or when the line is reawakened out to Clyde which in my opinion is not likely to happen any time soon.  Instead a pathetic excuse of a bus service might be offered, found to be little-used and that fact proffered as "evidence" that no demand for a railway existed.
  SPSD40T2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
Very well put and suumised there Gwiwer. Some folk would have it conspiracies dont exist but that can be the only explanation ( that and incompetence ) as to why this line has been deliberated vandalised in such a condoned manner.

Interested parties are constantly making usre obstacles exist preventing thi sline from ever being reestablished. A pox on them.

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