Russian Soyuz Carrier in HO?

 
  remmerd Station Master

Location: North
Does anybody know of any model rail companies that produce a HO scale Russian Rocket-carrier train as used for Soyuz launches, i.e:


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  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Does anybody know of any model rail companies that produce a HO scale Russian Rocket-carrier train as used for Soyuz launches, i.e:


"remmerd"

Is there a 1:87 Soyuz?
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
And I thought Alcos make a bit of smoke!  Rusky diseasels beat them hands down.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Very unlikely, and you would probably be the first and only to ask for one.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
That would be an easy scratchbuild!!! Wink
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

Is there a 1:87 Soyuz?
Aaron
Airfix or Revell used to make a Soyuz in 1/72 - I still have mine!
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Airfix or Revell used to make a Soyuz in 1/72 - I still have mine!
Gremlin
I will have to keep an eye out for one!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
There is a very large following of space vehicle models and the related infrastructure - I was once tempted to buy a highly detailed 1:96 Saturn V launch pad until I saw the number of brass etches that made up the model. Price was about $1000 in kit form or 10 times that if assembled for you. Saturn V was not included in that price! But I digress...

The Russian transporter is available in various scales, tracking it down is a bit harder as much of the market is run by cottage industries in Europe (Czech Republic in particular). You may not be able to get it in 1:87 however the "near enough"  1:90 is a common scale for rocket models.

Have a poke around https://shop.strato.de/epages/243845.sf/de_DE/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=2364337&OrderBy=ListPrice&OrderDesc=1 and http://www.hobbyspace.com/Models/ , you might find what you're after.
  Johnmc Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland
Have a poke around https://shop.strato.de/epages/243845.sf/de_DE/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=2364337&OrderBy=ListPrice&OrderDesc=1 and http://www.hobbyspace.com/Models/ , you might find what you're after.
Poath Junction
I do believe that my wallet has gone into hiding after looking at that site.Razz

This is about the best side-on view that i've seen of the rail transporter :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanspaceagency/3561670133/in/set-72157618761645062

The front wagon looks like a reasonably standard well wagon, and the rear one seems to be an almost ordinary flat one.

The middle on is where you would have most of your fun, if you were to scratchbuild...
  GN4472 Deputy Commissioner

Airfix or Revell used to make a Soyuz in 1/72 - I still have mine!
Gremlin

Airfix made it- Well produced it, you had to make it! Smile
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

Airfix made it- Well produced it, you had to make it! Smile
GN4472
And Revell also produced, and I made, a Mercury Atlas with launch pad - highly detailed and all in plastic Smile
  remmerd Station Master

Location: North
Is there a 1:87 Soyuz?
Aaron

No but Airfix still produces it in 1:144 so maybe I''ll scratch build in N scale. I would think some of the consist would be available (engine, carriage, ?) - but the main carrier would be a scratch build...

Thanks for the conversation, people...
  GN4472 Deputy Commissioner

And Revell also produced, and I made, a Mercury Atlas with launch pad - highly detailed and all in plastic Smile
Gremlin

Excellent! Very Happy
  GN4472 Deputy Commissioner

So, what would that van be behind the first loco?
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Some prototype info with lots of transporter pics is at http://rtheworldofthesciencew.blogspot.com.au/2010/03/baikonur-trains.html
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Oh wow, this would be a fun one to model, way cooler than the giant transporter truck the Americans used.

 
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
So, what would that van be behind the first loco?
GN4472
Crew's lunch van...
  M636C Minister for Railways

Does anybody know of any model rail companies that produce a HO scale Russian Rocket-carrier train as used for Soyuz launches, i.e:


remmerd
The van would appear to be a generator car, probably used to power hydraulic handling equipment.

Similar generator cars were used with some block trains of refrigerator cars.

You might be able to find a model made years ago by Piko when they were still an East German operation.

A possible option might be a Bachmann Chinese 22 series mail van or power car.

The locomotives are derivatives of the Russian TEM-2 type. If you can't find any of those, they were all based on the Alco RS-1 type modified with six motor bogies called type TE-1 (or Da for the WWII originals) which might be modified from available US models. All of these prototype locomotives used versions of the Alco 539 engine.

There is one standard flat car used as a spacer.

You might kitbash the carrier wagon from available models of transformer carrier wagon or steel torpedo wagon.

But this assumes that you might find a Soyuz of the right size.

There was a thread on the Trains.com site on the "Classic Toy Trains" magazine sub-site on downloadable paper models of space vehicles which could presumably be photo enlarged or reduced to suit. The thread was page 4 of "In a standard gauge mood" by "Penny Trains" where direct links to websites were provided by the original poster "Penny Trains". I think a Soyuz was illustrated.

M636C
  standard gauge Station Master

This site might be of interest. They do a couple of locomotives and some passenger/baggage cars

http://www.redstarrailways.com/index.asp
  remmerd Station Master

Location: North
That is exceptionally informative - thanks M636C.

Dennis
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
A bit off topic but didn't the Buran shuttle come to Sydney around 2000 or 2001.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

A bit off topic but didn't the Buran shuttle come to Sydney around 2000 or 2001.
GeoffreyHansen

Wishful thinking maybe, but certainly not.

Paul
  Laser Rail Bits Locomotive Driver

Location: Goulburn NSW
Wishful thinking maybe, but certainly not.

Paul
FirstStopCentral

I think you will find that one of them was on display at Darling Harbour in 2000 for the Olympics...
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
A bit off topic but didn't the Buran shuttle come to Sydney around 2000 or 2001.
GeoffreyHansen

The vehicle that was displayed at the Olympics was the Buran Aerodynamic Analogue, essentially the same concept as the NASA Shuttle program "Enterprise" test vehicle. It had been purchased by an Australian company in the late 1990's and was sold to a German museum shortly after the 2000 Olympics as the Aussie company went bust.

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