xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Yes, I agree, if Sir Thomas has indeed left, then that is a shame.
Along with The Loaded Dog, Sir Thomas is one of the few members here that I respect.
If he has left, then Railpage will be worse off for it, and it will be just another nail in RailPages coffin.

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  TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

Yes, I agree, if Sir Thomas has indeed left, then that is a shame.
Along with The Loaded Dog, Sir Thomas is one of the few members here that I respect.
If he has left, then Railpage will be worse off for it, and it will be just another nail in RailPages coffin.
xxxxlbear

Thank you 'bear, your kind words are appreciated.  And also reciprocated.  You're one of the few true gentlemen here.


Ewww....  I'm being nice.  Somebody ban me or something.  Mr. Green
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Thank you 'bear, your kind words are appreciated.  And also reciprocated.  You're one of the few true gentlemen here.


Ewww....  I'm being nice.  Somebody ban me or something.  Mr. Green
TheLoadedDog™™

Aww, thank you for your kind words also Smile

....I can feel a group hug coming on!! Shocked
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Yes, I agree, if Sir Thomas has indeed left, then that is a shame.
Along with The Loaded Dog, Sir Thomas is one of the few members here that I respect.
If he has left, then Railpage will be worse off for it, and it will be just another nail in RailPages coffin.
xxxxlbear
I too feel the same as xxxxlbear. Very well put Sir.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
I too feel the same as xxxxlbear. Very well put Sir.
David Peters

Aww, shucks Embarassed
Thank you.
I was just expressing the truth Smile
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
It's a bloody shame Railpage has lost yet another key contributor. 7 years ago when I joined here I was often put in the idiot column which was not at all unwarranted. However I do look back and see how much I had learnt from Railpage in the first couple of years as a pimply idiotic teenager. Now I lurk more and post less, I now work in the public transport industry in my own right. I probably should most my own observations more.

But I don't. Because I don't really feel it would be appreciated. I don't see users sharing facts anymore. I don't feel like I can ask a question and get a serious answer. It was always a see-saw of foamers and intellegent discussion, but this is yet another tip into the foam. Sir Thomas Bent was not only one of those key contributors that I have learnt so much from, but one of the users on this site who belted me into how I post today. I will greatly miss his contributions.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Aww, shucks Embarassed
Thank you.
I was just expressing the truth Smile
xxxxlbear
No aww, shucks it was well put and straight to the point.8)
  TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

OK.

After some internal to and fro-ing, I've come to a decision.  I'm out of here.

I mean nobody any malice.  You can all find me easily as I use the same handle on all sites.  I've already tried a lengthy sabbatical, and I'm now sorry that I came back.  Railpage is not what it was.  It's not the place I remember.  Whilst I wish it no ill, I don't want to be a part of it.

There are very good people here I will miss.   However, the foamers are legion, and I won't miss those.

There are other boards that were never intended to replace RP, but RP itself made sure they did.  Ironic, eh? There are FB groups.


Thanks to my friends here.  You know how to find me.  I'm outta here.  Good day.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Yes, I agree, if Sir Thomas has indeed left, then that is a shame.
Along with The Loaded Dog, Sir Thomas is one of the few members here that I respect.
If he has left, then Railpage will be worse off for it, and it will be just another nail in RailPages coffin.
xxxxlbear

Sir Thomas was interesting to read but he was a little out there so to speak.  Railpage Coffin?  Not sure we need to be going that far.

What is Sir Thomas's gripe?
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Attacking somebody after they are no longer here to defend themselves?  Classy.

And oh so brave.
TheLoadedDog™™

Has Sir Thomas actually been banned?
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Has Sir Thomas actually been banned?
JimYarin
He was, but the ban has since been lifted.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
STB will be sorely missed.  He was sometimes abrasive, didn't suffer fools gladly, and didn't respond well to questions which were ill-informed or not well thought out.  But he obviously knew what he was talking about, would always give a genuine reply to a genuine question, and as a source of factual information he was one of the best.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
STB will be sorely missed.  He was sometimes abrasive, didn't suffer fools gladly, and didn't respond well to questions which were ill-informed or not well thought out.  But he obviously knew what he was talking about, would always give a genuine reply to a genuine question, and as a source of factual information he was one of the best.
Lad_Porter

Well perhaps if he does decide to come back and continue to add value he could show us how to conduct himself with grace rather than be so abrasive.  He may well have been a contributor on a factual basis but you need to have a little of everything in your conduct on any forum.  This is a great resource and it should be respected.  The more informed and mature users of this board should be setting an example in patience for the younger users. Most people do not like to suffer fools however we all share the same hobby and the same love of trains.
  JGS Moderator Well. We'll see about THAT!

Location: Junee NSW
G'day folks,

It's rather interesting that some of those who complained about personal attacks are now attacking others. This is not the place for value judgements, post-mortems or critical analysis. If you have a problem with another poster, take it to private messages or leave it alone.

And there'll be no "oh, but he had a go at me first".

Enough. You may see them as personal attacks, you may see them as assessment of the posting style of another. Either way, I'm respectfully asking everyone to give it a rest. It's enough. If it doesn't stop, I'll get all moderational...

Cheers,
Matt
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I agree with the previous poster.  You guys don't know how valuable this resource is.  Using this facility to not a right, it must really be viewed as a privilege. All forums and resources really need rules and these rules must be respected.

I am on facebook groups where the sledging and otherwise unruley behavior is worse there than it is here. You guys pull yourself together and get on with it.
  jjbc Junior Train Controller

I'm in favour of content over what some people seem to hold dear - a cult of personalities, grandstanding and political ideologies. A degree of wit and self-composure also doesn't go amiss...
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I could not agree more!

Let us dispense with the Grand Standing and get on with getting along.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
G'day folks,

It's rather interesting that some of those who complained about personal attacks are now attacking others. This is not the place for value judgements, post-mortems or critical analysis. If you have a problem with another poster, take it to private messages or leave it alone.

And there'll be no "oh, but he had a go at me first".

Enough. You may see them as personal attacks, you may see them as assessment of the posting style of another. Either way, I'm respectfully asking everyone to give it a rest. It's enough. If it doesn't stop, I'll get all moderational...

Cheers,
Matt
JGS

The way I see it it, those who continue to complain about being attacked.......there's an old saying, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
I'm in favour of content over what some people seem to hold dear - a cult of personalities, grandstanding and political ideologies. A degree of wit and self-composure also doesn't go amiss...
jjbc
Perhaps the reason this particular personality might be missed around here, is because of the content he contributed...? Fine, he didn't take well to idiots, or the stupidity displayed by some people when they kept crapping on about things they knew little about, yet professed they did. If you take a look at what the people defending him are saying, they will miss the knowledge he shared with us most of all. It's nothing to do with any cult of personalities, it's simply people upset about a damn good contributer leaving the site. The manner in which it has happened is regrettable to say the least.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Isn't it time to close this thread?
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Yes. Yes it is.

I will leave it here, however.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I have tried to stay out of this discussion as I have my own problems and am struggling with various effects in my life. Things I am not prepared to disclose at this time.

What I will say is it is a poor teacher who tries to teach but blames their students for stupid questions. It is a worthy teacher who understands and can relate to their students and who invests the time and energy to encourage and grow their students instead of ridiculing them.

Railpage does not take sides.  It encourages through provoking discussion. Those who provide thought provoking discussion will get a following.  We are one of a handful of global websites of this size on a topic such as this.  All we ask is for responsible posts and comment, much the same as our global peers do.

Unless you have owned and run a large internet forum like this, it is i am sure hard to comprehend the work and commitment by all involved in keeping this running. I only ask that people respect people on this forum.

I will leave BW to manage the thread.

Regards
Brian
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
The thread has been locked for nearly a week - there is no need to manage it.
I am not interested in managing it, thus it being locked.

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