Goodwood Junction Underpass

 
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
I'd suggest 40 KMH Mc, by time trains start running concrete will be well cured.

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  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

That might be a bit conservative AlcoWS.

Looking at the photos there appears to be super elevation so I cant see why higher speeds would not be in order. The 3000s are going to need to get a gale up going down so they can get up the other side, the grade is 3%.

I suggest the track geometry has been improved over the old LX.

Can anybody remember what the speed posted on that curve for the down direction used to be?

Ian
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Used to be 35KMH both ways over the cross overs then 55 past SASMAEE
  Epsilon2012 Station Master

Location: Adelaide, Australia
Hi All,

ABC news website today has some nice pictures of progress on this project too:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-02/goodwood-rail-services-upgrade-nearing-completion/4793838?section=sa

Catcha,
Epsilon
  mm42 Chief Train Controller

Will 6 months of rust build-up mean the level crossing lights won't work as well as usual ?  Have any test trains used the track to find out ?  In Gippsland even with regular trains the corrosion build-up has meant a termination of services until the rust could be ground off.
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
Will 6 months of rust build-up mean the level crossing lights won't work as well as usual ?  Have any test trains used the track to find out ?  In Gippsland even with regular trains the corrosion build-up has meant a termination of services until the rust could be ground off.
mm42
The ARTC freight line still uses the insulated sections to trigger crossing lights/arms but the metro will use continuous welded rail and the new system MicroLock II or equivalent where wheels/axles are counted at trigger points. Rust will not be a factor. The return leg for the 15KV will be interesting though.   - or have I got it all wrong?
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
The ARTC freight line still uses the insulated sections to trigger crossing lights/arms but the metro will use continuous welded rail and the new system MicroLock II or equivalent where wheels/axles are counted at trigger points. Rust will not be a factor. The return leg for the 15KV will be interesting though.   - or have I got it all wrong?
redadare
25kv actually from what has been said.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The ARTC freight line still uses the insulated sections to trigger crossing lights/arms but the metro will use continuous welded rail and the new system MicroLock II or equivalent where wheels/axles are counted at trigger points. Rust will not be a factor. The return leg for the 15KV will be interesting though.   - or have I got it all wrong?
"redadare"

The rail that is going to be used for the sparks will be well operational and have a nice shiny surface in place courtesy of the poxes running services ahead of spark implementation so the 'rust' will not be a problem for the sparks. At the kinds of energies we're talking about I doubt that rust would pose any significant issue even after a period of non use.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
In the Sadvertiser today it was announced that the actual underpass is complete with just track laying to finish it off. Probably still a bit of tidying up to do though etc. I quote.

$100m Project.
Goodwood rail underpass done.
Major work on a 550m rail underpass to separate passenger and freight lines at Goodwood has been completed.

Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis yesterday announced the track still needed to be laid through the underpass but major work for the $110m project was finished.

The underpass was needed to direct the Noarlunga line below the freight and Belair line near Victoria Street.

Mr Koutsantonis said the Belair line would open in about 2 weeks while the Noarlunga line was on track to start running again in September.
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis yesterday announced the track still needed to be laid through the underpass ...
David Peters
Track still needed to be laid through the underpass?

Thank goodness he wasn't Project Manager as they have been concreting the lines in for quite a number of days.
Now either he has been misquoted or he has never bothered to see the site for himself. I suspect the latter.
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
Track still needed to be laid through the underpass?

Thank goodness he wasn't Project Manager as they have been concreting the lines in for quite a number of days.
Now either he has been misquoted or he has never bothered to see the site for himself. I suspect the latter.
redadare
Or maybe he is correct as there is still track to be laid.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Or maybe he is correct as there is still track to be laid.
Tonsley213
Especially if that includes the whole underpass site rather than just the bit with the other track on top.

Or maybe he's just semi-correct and the track laying process is not complete yet.
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Especially if that includes the whole underpass site rather than just the bit with the other track on top.

Or maybe he's just semi-correct and the track laying process is not complete yet.
justapassenger
A glance at the excellent series of pictures submitted by 62430 a few days ago to the previous page this thread would show that concreting has progressed far further than that. One thing that pleases me is that some of the view of the SASMEE site that I thought would be lost to passengers forever may be visible as the down trains rise from the underpass, and maybe there will be an even better view from the up trains.

The fleeting view of a brightly lit dive-under and track work from a passing tram shows that considerable progress has been made.
  62430 Chief Train Controller

Location: Metro Adelaide
Photos from today showing the latest progress.

1. End of slab with SASMEE in background indicate 100m of slab now complete


2. Gauge spacer bars and supporting vertical bolts through concrete now removed


3. View from Fairfax Ave crossing


AlexC

Album of Rail Revitalisation photos at http://s884.photobucket.com/user/eckyT/library/Rail%20Revitalisation
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I noticed that a new signal had been erected on the Down Belair line at the old Keswick station site (Signal 335) The signal was lite (Red showing)
refer http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Adelaide/AD004.pdf
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Hello Pressman: Thanks very much for posting the signal and track diagram of the Wayville to Goodwood underpass and Belair line passing loop area. I spent a most enjoyable and informative hour or so with it.

There are only a few days to go before we can travel over it! A long wait, but worth it.

Regards,

Brian.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

View from the tram bridge today. note signal 511 for Millswood loop.
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Another view of 511 with some impressive concrete pumping gear
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Plenty of work on the platform which looks like it might be ready for the opening of Belair.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Hello Pressman: Thanks very much for posting the signal and track diagram of the Wayville to Goodwood underpass and Belair line passing loop area. I spent a most enjoyable and informative hour or so with it.

There are only a few days to go before we can travel over it! A long wait, but worth it.

Regards,

Brian.
"SAR526"


No problems Brian, the link was posted earlier and was printed in the last issue of Catchpoint.

SA Track and Signal is a wealth of information, now including all ARTC (including Hunter Valley), PTS (Adelaide Metro), GWA (SA & NT), V/L Country SG, NSW (CRN & JHR) and Brisbane SG
http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/index.htm
  rwatts Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide SA
No problems Brian, the link was posted earlier and was printed in the last issue of Catchpoint.

SA Track and Signal is a wealth of information, now including all ARTC (including Hunter Valley), PTS (Adelaide Metro), GWA (SA & NT), V/L Country SG, NSW (CRN & JHR) and Brisbane SG
http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/index.htm
Pressman
I had only downloaded a copy of that section less than a fortnight ago.  I was interested to see this latest version has the deletion of the NR4 signal and related signage including approach speed limit.

Richard.
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
They are not drilling holes for the Pandrol VIPA at Millswood southern entrance to the subway. I was at Cromer St this afternoon and saw more concrete being pumped in.
I thought the resilient pad would be laid onto the concrete but they tried to spread the concrete underneath the pads. One wonders how many and big the air pockets underneath are, if any. The two vertical bolts merely tension to a diagonal plate under 2 or 3 layers of reo. They dont even touch the underlying concrete bed.
redadare
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cheers 62440  Smile
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The down starter on the Belair Main at Wayville was showing green from the Keswick Bridge this afternoon. Interestingly that signal has two feathers, one for the Down Seaford, one for ? and no feather for the Belair Main (bidirectional).

Last night only the signals on the main line at Millswood loop were installed. With 4 days to go it looks like Belair services will return with the Millswood loop not commissioned.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Have any test trains been spotted there yet?
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I was told by a driver on the B1 this afternoon that they now have a roster for the B1 continuing until the 27th of July. I don't think it's looking good for a reopening on Sunday, and I'm wondering when the general public are going to be told what is happening.

On the other hand, the driver of the 601 was waiting at Blackwood station interchange well after his departure time because he had heard the trains were resuming and he didn't want to leave before connecting passengers arrived! The lack of information for the customer-facing staff is clearly the fault of Light City Buses, but the driver doesn't do himself any favours there - no initiative to look around and find somebody to ask, or read the "STATION CLOSED" signs, or the "BELAIR LINE REOPENING JULY 14" signs or the LCD screen showing no services scheduled.

I'm glad my bike is at the shop being repaired for only a couple of days, I wouldn't want to be relying on the public transport system any longer than I have to when the left hand clearly has no clue of what the right is doing. Adelaide Metro might like to consider headhunting my bike mechanic though, he may not be an expert in forms of transport with more than two wheels but he does have a customer service ethic (which Adelaide Metro needs) and the ability to proactively keep me informed of what's going on (which Adelaide Metro needs).
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

I think the roster is probably more of a safety measure I still think its likely to reopen on the 14th of July.

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