Penrice stone train

 
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
would anyone like to guess how many stone trains we can expect per week and on what days?

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  brianph Locomotive Driver

Location: Bethany
would anyone like to guess how many stone trains we can expect per week and on what days?
Heath Loxton
Heath, there is no point in guessing.  Unless someone is taking bets on who gets the nearest to the actual figure.

If you look at the post before yours by Top Cat you will see that a definitive answer will probably be in the next edition of 'Catchpoint'.  And as you have subscribed, you'll be one of the first to know.

Brian
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
How do you subscribe to Catch point?
  brianph Locomotive Driver

Location: Bethany
How do you subscribe to Catch point?
Tonsley213
Sorry Tonsley213 - that was a bit misleading.  You will, I think, have to join as a member of the National Railway Museum.  Within that membership, among other benefits, you get 6 copies of Catchpoint a year.

I get mine from the ARS newsagent.

Brian
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Sorry Tonsley213 - that was a bit misleading.  You will, I think, have to join as a member of the National Railway Museum.  Within that membership, among other benefits, you get 6 copies of Catchpoint a year.

I get mine from the ARS newsagent.

Brian
"brianph"


A Single membership to the NRM is $65.00 per year
Included in membership is posted copy of Catchpoint (Value $8.00 per issue plus postage) (annual value = $48.00+)
Free unlimited entry to the NRM during normal operating hours (Value = $19.00 per visit)
10% Discount at the "Break of Gauge" bookshop
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Well worth it in my opinion, the membership fee is less than the retail cost of Catchpoint and just one visit to the Museum!

Yes I am a Member, and I often buy other rail magazines like Motive Power and Railway Digest at a 10% discount at the bookshop
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
back on topic please!!!!!
  Top Cat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Under Hilton Bridge
...whether people believe it or not (back on topic), I repeat, there is some news in the next Catch Point.....I am one of those that "proof read" the copy....
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

.......And lets leave it at that Heath.
No point in playing the guessing game.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
can the person who proof read the copy give us all a sneak peak of the penrice stone train news as i cant wait!!!
  Seldom_21 Junior Train Controller

Location: South Australia
good things come to all who wait....

It's published in Catch Point for a reason, that's what we've gotta wait for.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Regarding the number of trains heath's question could have been answered in part by looking through this thread and doing the maths; if I could be bothered to go back through here I could find it for him. Heath, DO YOUR HOME WORK!

How and when these trains will operate must be known if CP can publish it.

Heath is right to ask this question because there may be a correspondent here who knows because they are intimate with the operation and proposed operations.

Ian
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
the penrice stone train is now running every tuesday and friday from osborne to penrice and return hauling 20 hoppers per train.
out of the 5 broad gauge locomotives that GWA own 3 830 class locos will be preserved for the limited service, 1 will be preserved for shunting in osborne yard and the future of 704 is uncertain. (i believe it will be used by adelaide metro to haul A-city units from adelaide to dry creek for heavy maintenance and that the currently in storage 702 will supply parts for 704 on this important job).
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

out of the 5 broad gauge trains that GWA own 3 800 class locos will be preserved for the limited service, 1 will be preserved for shunting in osborne yard and the future of 704 is uncertain. (i believe it will be used by adelaide metro to haul A-city units from adelaide to dry creek for heavy maintenance and that the currently in storage 702 will supply parts for 704 on this important job).
"Heath Loxton"

When you say "5 trains" you mean "5 locomotives". Your 800 class is actually an 830 class. Couldn't be bothered reading the rest after two mistakes in such a short time...
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

I was thinking the same thing duttonbay.
I'm not a member at the NRM so I'll get down there tomorrow to get a current copy of Catchpoint.
Reckon I'll wait and read that without the mistakes and "guessing" if the information is correct.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
The first line and a bit of what heath said is basically what the photo description in Catchpoint's says.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Not sure if the two trains a week will run to the normal time as before the reduced service (goes through Elizabeth between the 12:40pm & 12:54pm trains usually).
  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller

(i believe it will be used by adelaide metro to haul A-city units from adelaide to dry creek for heavy maintenance and that the currently in storage 702 will supply parts for 704 on this important job).
Heath Loxton

What gives you that idea? Just a dream?? I'd suggest you'd sooner see 3000/3100's towing the EMUs before you'll see a dirty old diesel loco roll into Adelaide Station to move them.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
What gives you that idea? Just a dream?? I'd suggest you'd sooner see 3000/3100's towing the EMUs before you'll see a dirty old diesel loco roll into Adelaide Station to move them.
Jumbo2001
The Perth people have diesel locomotives for moving their EMUs around the maintenance yard at Carrisbrook.    Why should a similar situation not occur here?

I can see 2 problems: where do the locomotives come from and what is the coupling situation?
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
(i believe it will be used by adelaide metro to haul A-city units from adelaide to dry creek for heavy maintenance and that the currently in storage 702 will supply parts for 704 on this important job).
Heath Loxton
Heath, people access these pages to find out information they may not otherwise be able to access, to this end all information posted should be factual, not hearsay, not guess's and certainly not what you think should be a good idea, many unfortunately in this new age of ours take what is written as gospel, yourself included.
If you want to make a statement like that at least have the honesty to to start your post with "what I would like to happen", we will still have a laugh at your naivety.

Wayne
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
Assuming that it's not light enough to be hauled by a 3000 class there are a few options:

- haul with a 2000/2100 railcar (overhead could be denengerized to permit safe operation)
- repurpose a 2000 railcar to be operated from ground level for the express purpose of hauling
- SA Government purchases an existing locomotive from GWA
- SA Government establishes a short-term hook and pull contract with GWA
- SA Government leases the locomotive from GWA
- Electrify the line between Dry Creek and Adelaide.

Given that the last options was announced in the most recent budget, it is likely that hauling with a 3000 class is likely. If the 2000 class are unable to operate under the wires, it is not an option with out spending money. Would the state government purchase a 50 year old locomotive for 2-3 years, doubt it. I wouldn't put it past leasing until the electrics are up, but this would require crews capable of operating it and training expense, so that leaves a short term hook and pull with GWA. I'm sure reasonable GWA would negotiate reasonable commercial terms. It's the government, what could possibly be wrong with that?
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
most likely it will be 704 as the other 4 830 class locos are for shunting at osborne and pulling the stone train!
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
most likely it will be 704 as the other 4 830 class locos are for shunting at osborne and pulling the stone train!
Heath Loxton
Are you not listening, do you not read what others post, actually, having said that and seeing what else you have written, I gather you don't.
Not knowing your true medical condition, I am presuming it causes you to have a fixation with the first subject you think off and will remain until another fixation takes over, I have a mate who's son is like that (PITA), so I suppose we will have to humour you until you move on to your next subject.
Be prepared to be ignored.

Wayne
  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller

I just saw the Stonie, so left Gawler central around 3:50pm.

It was headed by 704 with 841 and had 21 trucks in the consist.

So Heath, seems like 704 is still going to haul to Stonie.

Back to what others have said. It's unlikely that old locos will haul EMUs account transition coupler arrangements, and the fact they would rather have a number of 3000s give them a tow than anything else. Which is understandable, jumbos or old beat up looking GWA locos towing them would be embarrassing and look bad to the public. Using GWA locos is just a gunzels wet dream. In saying that, happy to be proven wrong if it occurs
  trainlover Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide.
the penrice stone train is now running every tuesday and friday from osborne to penrice and return hauling 20 hoppers per train.
out of the 5 broad gauge locomotives that GWA own 3 830 class locos will be preserved for the limited service, 1 will be preserved for shunting in osborne yard and the future of 704 is uncertain. (i believe it will be used by adelaide metro to haul A-city units from adelaide to dry creek for heavy maintenance and that the currently in storage 702 will supply parts for 704 on this important job).
Heath Loxton
702??? This one long gone after a fire hauling AM3 up the adelaide hills back in the 90s someone i hope will have the full details of that one.

So it must be 706 the old 700 not seen now for a long time in action it just stored at the MPC.
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
702??? This one long gone after a fire hauling AM3 up the adelaide hills back in the 90s someone i hope will have the full details of that one.

So it must be 706 the old 700 not seen now for a long time in action it just stored at the MPC.
trainlover
Err, isn't 706 the old 700?

Wayne

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