"Newish" Lubrication Product

 
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Hi All,

I have just discovered what seems to be a brilliant new lubrication product from Buffer Stop in East Preston.

I had despaired that I would have to replace at least two motors with questionable clearances as I thought they were on the way out.

A few drops of the "Silicon Swiss Navy Premium Lubricant" which appears in a liquid gel lube and the two locos have turned into the equal of my best performers, pulling more vehicles quieter and more slowly and I have saved myself trauma getting the motors for these units.

It is one of the better spends of $10 I have ever made in this hobby. Other locos are pulling a lot better with better slow speed control and I will gradually test it and apply it to the whole fleet as I circulate the locos for runs. No more LaBelle for yours truly apart from what I need for other lubes when I find the tubes!

Good Luck

Trevor

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Appears it has a few other uses too. http://www.mdsciencelab.com/Swiss-Navy-Silicone-Lubricants-s/1823.htm
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Appears it has a few other uses too. http://www.mdsciencelab.com/Swiss-Navy-Silicone-Lubricants-s/1823.htm
Poath Junction
I was actually told about this aspect but thought the better of it... I'll get MY priorities right and use it on my trains first! Wink  Just applied it to another loco and the improvement again is remarkable!

Cheers

Trevor
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Hmmmm....Google has got me confused now!!!!
  railmod Chief Train Controller

Appears it has a few other uses too. http://www.mdsciencelab.com/Swiss-Navy-Silicone-Lubricants-s/1823.htm
Poath Junction

Hmmm,

So it's good for a rear banker Wink

Sorry - couldn't resist.

Cheers Alex
  Piston Train Controller

Appears it has a few other uses too. http://www.mdsciencelab.com/Swiss-Navy-Silicone-Lubricants-s/1823.htm
Poath Junction
It seems like now you with have better control with locos assisting in the rear. Can you get it for hole sale prices?
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
I wonder who's going to be the first person to go to an "adult shop", take a 32oz bottle of lubricant to the checkout, and say to the salesperson "I like trains". Embarassed
  a6et Minister for Railways

I wonder who's going to be the first person to go to an "adult shop", take a 32oz bottle of lubricant to the checkout, and say to the salesperson "I like trains". Embarassed
Poath Junction
May help with unmeshing the wrong gear bearings with faulty compass
  glennofootscray Junior Train Controller

Location: Footscray
I prefer to warm them up to operating temp rather than use a third party lubricant.

Regards Glenn
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
One would presume it is plastic compatible?
What a sad sad bunch of modellers I mix with, funny but really sad. Laughing
But back to seriousness, do you reckon it might quieten what is normally a noisy mech, I'm thinking K&M mechs here Trevor.

Wayne
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
One would presume it is plastic compatible?
What a sad sad bunch of modellers I mix with, funny but really sad. Laughing
But back to seriousness, do you reckon it might quieten what is normally a noisy mech, I'm thinking K&M mechs here Trevor.

Wayne
hosk1956

Nothing will quieten a K&M mechanism Razz

I do wonder why it is called "Silicon Swiss Navy Premium Lubricant", or what use a tiny bunch of lake patrol boats would need it for?
  xdford Chief Train Controller

One would presume it is plastic compatible?
What a sad sad bunch of modellers I mix with, funny but really sad. Laughing
But back to seriousness, do you reckon it might quieten what is normally a noisy mech, I'm thinking K&M mechs here Trevor.

Wayne
hosk1956

Hi Wayne,

I have only had about a week and a halfs experience. I did quieten down my Mantua Berkshire considerably and the loco I did last night also seemed to be quieter as it developed a bit of noise in the last few months (Proto SW Switcher) with a minor application on the wheel bearing areas. It comes in a bottle, not a tube, need to be applied with a pin or needle end very sparingly. At the rate I seem to be applying it, I'll be handing some to my grandsons - at least 9 months away at this point!

I have still got that K&M Mech you sold me and a spare Budd Body - actually I have several which I may do in the earlier CP scheme, not the Hockey Mask one so I will try the stuff on the mech and PM you about the results as we both know what that mech was like,

Hope this finds you well mate - feel free to PM me... I will be home tomorrow afternoon,

Cheers

Trevor
  xdford Chief Train Controller

I wonder who's going to be the first person to go to an "adult shop", take a 32oz bottle of lubricant to the checkout, and say to the salesperson "I like trains". Embarassed
Poath Junction

It is a bottle of a more liquefied variety rather than the tube stuff... I think !!! "I like trains" is not one of the better pickup lines you can use in case you need to go and nor would you go to Coles and get out of it on the cheap getting some personal lube to I presume boil up and liquefy it a bit! The poor checkout chic might well be wondering about your sensitive side!

You of course heard about the Irish couple who could not tell the difference between Silicon Sealant and Personal Lubricant?  All their windows fell out!!!

Cheers

Trevor
  xdford Chief Train Controller

A little bit of History to illustrate what we have been talking about...

Wayne had fitted a Budd Car as a project for a Commonwealth CB with a K&M truck. This had been intended for a Model 75 Brill Car, hence it was geared fairly highly. Many years ago I altered a chassis for a Budd where I first used a SPUD which did not handle the load very well and then I used an Athearn switcher truck instead of the Rubber Band drive with half the switcher frame spliced on. Wayne's was neater than mine so when a Likelike Budd came out, I bought his chassis and body.

The performance was good apart from the noise and the warm up time. I eventually got a Canadian Budd myself and repainted my Athearn ones as per my web site http://www.xdford.digitalzones.com ...  

I reverted to the Athearn chassis after a fair while mainly because of the noise factor and the excessive warm up time. I have a Cannon motor powering that and it is performing quite well even after 30 years of being converted.

This is not terribly scientific given the lessening accuracy and sensitivity of the "hEAR-o-meter" but Wayne would have  have had a fair idea about what the Budd was like noise levels wise as some of you may have these motor chassis as well.

The gearing does not help this chassis and there is still a little high pitch gear noise at low speed but it is certainly less noise with the application of the lube on the end bearings from the outside and some on the wheel bearing areas. I am wondering also if there is some rub from the large nylon gear against the brass tower but not sure if it can be forced further along to clear the tower. Nylon gears should be self lubricating but as they say, "there is Nylon and there is Nylon" and it may not be of the self lube type.

It was certainly quieter and smoother after the application of the lubeand I will one day reapply this to another Budd I have to make a Canadian Pacific unit in the original scheme, similar to the Tri-ang Budd colours possibly as a two car set as I got a few very cheaply a few years ago! Where I will fit them is another story!


I'll keep you all posted on other units I do if it is of interest...

Cheers

Trevor
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Looks like I might be wandering into my local adult shop as I have one model an ALF in Aust Southern colours that you can hear running from the next room even with the door shut, it makes that much noise. It uses an old Athearn chassis though. If that does not work I will get a VR C class and put under it.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
All this talk got me thinking - does anyone else have a HO scale Busch "Sex Shop" for their layout?


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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
One manufacturer even made a building years back with a large clear piece in the roof and a light inside with a couple at it on a bed as well. Made you look twice though when you noticed it. I cannot remember who did it now but it might have been Busch.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
One manufacturer even made a building years back with a large clear piece in the roof and a light inside with a couple at it on a bed as well. Made you look twice though when you noticed it. I cannot remember who did it now but it might have been Busch.
David Peters

Noch "sexy scenes" or for the animated variety look at the Viessmann "emotion" series.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Noch "sexy scenes" or for the animated variety look at the Viessmann "emotion" series.
Poath Junction
Thats it!
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Looks like I might be wandering into my local adult shop as I have one model an ALF in Aust Southern colours that you can hear running from the next room even with the door shut, it makes that much noise. It uses an old Athearn chassis though. If that does not work I will get a VR C class and put under it.
David Peters
I am not sure that it is actually available in the bottle at a sex shop... I have never been into a sex shop anyway and it is a very liquid form of personal stuff... the operative word is the silicon which I doubt will be regarded as medically safe inside bodies. The source of this stuff ultimately is the Simply Glues supplier in Wagga ... who incidentally runs a sex shop.

The bottle appears similar to this http://www.myshopping.com.au/ZM--1216522639_Swiss_Navy but mine has a red lid and obviously seems cheaper than what I paid for it... but I expect it will last quite a long time. I would have done some more subjective testing but it is raining heavily here so I won't hear much anyway,

Cheers

Trevor
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I am not sure that it is actually available in the bottle at a sex shop... I have never been into a sex shop anyway and it is a very liquid form of personal stuff... the operative word is the silicon which I doubt will be regarded as medically safe inside bodies. The source of this stuff ultimately is the Simply Glues supplier in Wagga ... who incidentally runs a sex shop.

The bottle appears similar to this http://www.myshopping.com.au/ZM--1216522639_Swiss_Navy but mine has a red lid and obviously seems cheaper than what I paid for it... but I expect it will last quite a long time. I would have done some more subjective testing but it is raining heavily here so I won't hear much anyway,

Cheers

Trevor
xdford
Well as I am considered old and over the hill I might be able to get a few other things to spice up my girlfriends and mine sex life a bit, so the trip will not be wasted.LaughingLaughing

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