Digital TV

 
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I guess the resolution is for your wife to stop watching TV while she is driving... Mr. Green
"Graham4405"

As far as I know it is illegal to have a TV in a car located in such a position that the driver could see it. I suspect that Ballast-Plough might be pulling a leg or two here...

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  Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
Not at all John - the electronics are configured so that you only get audio / video while the car is motionless. As soon as you move the screen goes blank and you get audio only.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Not at all John - the electronics are configured so that you only get audio / video while the car is motionless. As soon as you move the screen goes blank and you get audio only.
Ballast_Plough
As for a DIY installation...


"Police arrest erratically-driving truckie who had massive TV attached to dashboard of his rig ...."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/police-arrest-erratically-driving-truckie-who-had-massive-tv-attached-to-dashboard-of-his-rig/story-e6freuy9-1226308495145
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Does anyone actually watch any of the "home shopping" channels that clog up the guide now with all the digital channels?

All the commercial stations have two of these channels.   What a complete waste of bandwidth.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Not at all John - the electronics are configured so that you only get audio / video while the car is motionless. As soon as you move the screen goes blank and you get audio only.
"Ballast_Plough"

If it's all the same I'd rather you NOT be getting video while you're waiting for the traffic lights/level crossing/stop sign/give way situ...
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Does anyone actually watch any of the "home shopping" channels that clog up the guide now with all the digital channels?

All the commercial stations have two of these channels.   What a complete waste of bandwidth.
Donald

True, but hardly any worse than the cra*p channels that Fox fill up their bandwidth allocation with.

Mind you, if I see one more ad for an Ab-Blaster, Twister, Bender, Bonker or Basher, I will probably delete those channels from my set.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
There is comparison when you live in regional NSW and even with a new antenna some channels are dead when it is raining. Us and the neigbours all have the same issue.

Whilst when the picture is up, yes... nice and clean compared to analogue, but when it's not... it not even there, at least analogue was readable.
johnboy

Your complaint about poor signals in regional areas is fairly consistent - I have friends in country Vic who complain that their digital signal drops out during high winds or heavy rain.  When I lived in Mt Gambier (SA) years ago people used signal booster boxes so they could gain TV from Ballarat.  Mind you, that was in the days of analogue signals.  I wonder if it is it possible to get a digital booster box?
  littleal9 Train Controller

Location: bellambi
As far as I know it is illegal to have a TV in a car located in such a position that the driver could see it.
duttonbay
It is also illegal to have a video screen (TV or DVD) screen fitted in such away that it is visible to drivers of other vehicles, which in theory makes most in seat /headrest screens illegal.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Your complaint about poor signals in regional areas is fairly consistent - I have friends in country Vic who complain that their digital signal drops out during high winds or heavy rain.  When I lived in Mt Gambier (SA) years ago people used signal booster boxes so they could gain TV from Ballarat.  Mind you, that was in the days of analogue signals.  I wonder if it is it possible to get a digital booster box?
don_dunstan

You can arrange to have your own repeater in your area to help boost signals, however an official one costs heaps. There are quite a few not-quite-approved ones around though.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Your complaint about poor signals in regional areas is fairly consistent - I have friends in country Vic who complain that their digital signal drops out during high winds or heavy rain.  When I lived in Mt Gambier (SA) years ago people used signal booster boxes so they could gain TV from Ballarat.  Mind you, that was in the days of analogue signals.  I wonder if it is it possible to get a digital booster box?
don_dunstan
Yes it is possible to get a booster box, but it almost essential to have one in areas that didn't need one in analogue times.   My daughter lives in Mt. Helen in Ballarat and needs one to get signals for the Ballarat stations!
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Does anyone actually watch any of the "home shopping" channels that clog up the guide now with all the digital channels?

All the commercial stations have two of these channels.   What a complete waste of bandwidth.
Donald
I don't. Agreed on the waste of bandwidth. Does the Seven Network actually have two operational? I only see TV4ME which is on 64 on my TVs. Not that I *want* another one. Occasionally I have stumbled across a "documentary" style travel program on GOLD, but as they don't publish a guide and nothing useful on the EPG you can't plan to watch one! I'm thinking of skipping these channels out...
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
I don't. Agreed on the waste of bandwidth. Does the Seven Network actually have two operational? I only see TV4ME which is on 64 on my TVs. Not that I *want* another one. Occasionally I have stumbled across a "documentary" style travel program on GOLD, but as they don't publish a guide and nothing useful on the EPG you can't plan to watch one! I'm thinking of skipping these channels out...
Graham4405

1. Seven
2. 7Two
3. 7Mate

Plus whatever home shopping channels that are associated with 7.
I never watch any any home shopping channels as I am able to 'skip' them on my digital tv, thank God.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Yes it is possible to get a booster box, but it almost essential to have one in areas that didn't need one in analogue times.   My daughter lives in Mt. Helen in Ballarat and needs one to get signals for the Ballarat stations!
Donald

I had to install an antenna amplifier (I assume this is what people are calling boosters). A combination of distance from transmitters, long cable runs and four outlets in the house. Digital signal strength went from pathetic to excellent (red to blue).

It's worth remembering that with analogue you still see a picture (however fuzzy) with a poor signal whereas with digital it's pretty much all or nothing.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

I've had Digital TV since 2002.  Way better picture and sound quality than analogue.

Digital radio is largely a waste of time unless you have problems with AM radio interference (especially if your house has solar electricity panels which a mate's place has).
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I like digital too, I've completely forgotten what a fuzzy reception looks like.  As other have commented, it's very fickle in that the signal drops out easily - I do feel for country people with regards to that.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
I don't. Agreed on the waste of bandwidth. Does the Seven Network actually have two operational? I only see TV4ME which is on 64 on my TVs. Not that I *want* another one. Occasionally I have stumbled across a "documentary" style travel program on GOLD, but as they don't publish a guide and nothing useful on the EPG you can't plan to watch one! I'm thinking of skipping these channels out...
Graham4405
The second home shopping on Seven is ishoptv (75 or 65)
Nine has Gold & Gold 2.
Ten has TVSN & Aspire.

All the new channels with digital and there is still nothing on the tv.   Oh well, plenty of time to go to the train shed!!
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Not at all John - the electronics are configured so that you only get audio / video while the car is motionless. As soon as you move the screen goes blank and you get audio only.
"Ballast_Plough"

Fair enough. It's not something I have ever heard of previously. I can't see much point myself - how often is it used? I suppose you could watch "Days of our Lives" while waiting to pick up the kids from school!
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
The second home shopping on Seven is ishoptv (75 or 65)
Nine has Gold & Gold 2.
Ten has TVSN & Aspire.

All the new channels with digital and there is still nothing on the tv.   Oh well, plenty of time to go to the train shed!!
"Donald"


Thankfully, here in Adelaide (metro) I only have to avoid TVSN and 4ME. Although GEM and 10 do broadcast "Home Shopping" in the early morning hours.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I can't see much point myself - how often is it used? I suppose you could watch "Days of our Lives" while waiting to pick up the kids from school!
duttonbay
Wouldn't it be easier to read a book or stuff around on an iPad or something?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Does anyone actually watch any of the "home shopping" channels that clog up the guide now with all the digital channels?

All the commercial stations have two of these channels.   What a complete waste of bandwidth.
Donald

Personally I think the main free to air channels must be banned from doing Infomericals. If the govt set a limit of how much advertising is allowed per hour, each hour of the day, a 30min infomerical would be impossible to show.

Remember a few years back we also had the phone up gambling puzzle shows. One station had it, then all three. True there were a few hotties that made it more pleasurable, but the music would change, fast to slow to fast. Then she would say things like " what are 3 types of bird seed" over and over again in different tones, facial expressions, zoomed in, zoomed out and ask that same bloody question for 1-2hr at a time say, what could it be. Birds eat what etc etc as if to give a clue knowing full well they will only answer the phone when they have generated enough revenue through phone calls. And of course every 15min, after telling people to ring up, remind people to only ring within their finacial limits.... argh!!!!
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
As for a DIY installation...


"Police arrest erratically-driving truckie who had massive TV attached to dashboard of his rig ...."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/police-arrest-erratically-driving-truckie-who-had-massive-tv-attached-to-dashboard-of-his-rig/story-e6freuy9-1226308495145
cootanee
My carpool drives to work in UAE with Ipad shwing quality viewing like Game of Thrones or Geordie Shore  (one guy is from there) or something else with T&A. Driver can see, but generally doesn't watch, (most of the time). Mind you the roads are mostly straight for 100km, few bends or intersections, 140km/hr smooth driving on cruise control. Only need to watch out for the out of control arabs.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
The second home shopping on Seven is ishoptv (75 or 65)
Donald
We don't get that here. I just re-scanned to be sure...
  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
I think we have had this discussion before, but if you truly do live in Narre Warren, then I am further out at Garfield and I get EVERY station on HD. And the TV in the UK is identical in standard to here, no better, no worse.
TheBlacksmith
What a load of absolute rubbish.

7 - SD only
7two - SD only
Nine - SD only
GO - SD only
TEN - SD only
ELEVEN - SD only

Need I go on?

TV in the UK has many more channels, far less advertising, better programming, and MUCH more HD content. Obviously you're one of those "Australia is the best country in the world and everything we have here is better than what other countries have" people.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
If I understand the gist of the last 2 posts correctly, Braddo is correct.
7
7two
Nine
GO
TEN
ELEVEN
plus Channel 2, and SBS and Channel 31 (I think)
are all broadcast in Standard Definition (which, incidently, is digital). My older tv is SD digital and could only receive SD channels.
-> Standard Definition (SD) digital tvs can only receive these channels.
-> High Definition (HD) digital tvs can receive these channels, plus the added channels (such as 7MATE, ONE, ABC 24) that are broadcast in HD.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
OK, having re-read my previous posts, I have edited this again to make my point more clearly.

Because of the number of older television receivers out there, the stations must transmit content in SD, and that is the same the world over. The content delivery, analogue or digital, can be changed. All that is necessary to enable digital delivery is for the receiver to be fitted with a digital set top box.

However each channel is also given a HD channel to broadcast HD programs, for those with HD capable receivers. However the digital channels are the same, and all of them are capable of delivering SD or HD and HD in its various resolution versions.

The problem that faces the stations is the lack of HD content, there is simply not enough of it to fill the HD channels, and that is a problem world-wide. Almost all new programming is being produced in HD, and virtually all outside broadcast material can be originated in HD.

Braddos comment: 'but from a technical perspective the TV in the UK is far superior.' is incorrect as the UK uses the same DVB-T standard that is used in Australia.

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