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      kapow Junior Train Controller


    Any information on how much money these new exits are contributing to the already outrageous amount of taxpayers money that has been wasted on myki?
    "Braddo"


    So you would have been happy with the money spent on keeping the out of date metcard system going?

    Posted: 21 Mar 2013 03:41

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      ewokracing Locomotive Fireman




    Any information on how much money these new exits are contributing to the already outrageous amount of taxpayers money that has been wasted on myki?
    "Braddo"


    So you would have been happy with the money spent on keeping the out of date metcard system going?

    "kapow"


    Yes. Never got ripped off with Metcard like I have with Myki. (complaint and reimbursements are pending, since I'm trying to explain to a drone that $3.50 is not a full refund of $5.92)

    Back to stations - Kananook station now has the herding gates welded in place (they've been leaning against the ramp for ages), desperately needs more card readers though and the vandalised ones need to be cleaned/replaced more often.

    An exit at the far ends of the platforms at Seaford would be nice, so you could walk through the exit straight into the carparks.

    Posted: 21 Mar 2013 09:25
      XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Glasgow
    I've not had my monthly-pass-bearing Mkyi get stuck inside a validator yet either.
    Posted: 21 Mar 2013 16:44
      alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    Strathmore Platform 2 has a new exit, fenced off but with working validator. No idea why it has not been opened.
    Posted: 23 Mar 2013 16:40
      Braddo Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Narre Warren



    Any information on how much money these new exits are contributing to the already outrageous amount of taxpayers money that has been wasted on myki?
    "Braddo"


    So you would have been happy with the money spent on keeping the out of date metcard system going?
    "kapow"

    I would have been happy with one of the many fast and reliable ticketing systems in use in other parts of the world. Unfortunately we felt the need to reinvent the wheel and ended up with something that is pathetic in comparison.



    Posted: 24 Mar 2013 00:27
      alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    I like Myki because it means I don't have to sell tickets in an environment where I previously had to. From a commuter point of view, it's a debacle. Fancy not being able to buy a ticket from an unmanned station, tram, or bus.
    Posted: 24 Mar 2013 02:31
      Michaelje Chief Commissioner




    I like Myki because it means I don't have to sell tickets in an environment where I previously had to. From a commuter point of view, it's a debacle. Fancy not being able to buy a ticket from an unmanned station, tram, or bus.

    "alstom_888m"


    You can buy a ticket from any station, whether manned or unmanned. What are you on about?

    Posted: 24 Mar 2013 09:18
      Braddo Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Narre Warren
    He's obviously referring to concession tickets.
    Posted: 25 Mar 2013 01:16
      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    The second exit at Lilydale platform 2 is now working.
    It's right next to the main exit, there are no extra readers for the other exit for platform 1.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2013 11:27
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    Strathmore Platform 2 has a new exit, fenced off but with working validator. No idea why it has not been opened.
    alstom_888m
    Apparently the new exits cannot be opened until CCTV coverage is extended to cover the next exits, in addition to upgraded lighting.

    From the VRIOG standards:
    http://corp.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PTV/PTV%20docs/VRIOGS/VRIOGS-002.1-Rev-A-FINAL.pdf

    7.6.4 Security Security systems that shall be provided at the station entrance include: a) CCTV coverage to maximise passenger safety and asset protection;
    Somebody
    Posted: 09 Apr 2013 11:07
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Strathmore Platform 2 has a new exit, fenced off but with working validator. No idea why it has not been opened.
    alstom_888m
    Not saying you're wrong but I don't see the extra validators. Certainly still fenced off.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2013 19:23
      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    The FPDs at the new exit at Ashburton are working now, but the temporary fence is still there.
    Posted: 16 Apr 2013 18:54
      TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Metcard was great for me.  I live in Sydney, and when I came to Melbourne, I stayed with a friend who had a yearly ticket.  Any problems with it, and they'd give her a whole slew of daily Metcards by way of compensation.  She never used even a half of them, so all my trips in Melbourne were free.  I shall have to pay like the common folk now.  How outré.  Commoners - imagine that! Mr. Green
    Posted: 16 Apr 2013 21:57
      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    During the last month or so the new exits have been completed at East Malvern, Tooronga, Kooyong, Mooroolbark, Croydon, Blackburn, Hurstbridge, Diamond Creek, Eaglemont, Darebin, Alphington, Coburg, and Moreland.

    I spotted workers installing new readers at Anstey today and am expecting them to do Brunswick, Jewell and Royal Park very soon.

    There's been no progress on the South Morang or Willamstown lines.  When I check the Tottenham, Upfield, Bayswater, Hallam Cranbourne, and the Craigieburn and Frankston lines I'll post an updated list.


    The new reader at Royal Park-
    [img]http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb474/Gauntlet0/newmykipad.jpg[/img]
    Posted: 30 May 2013 19:09

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      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    Almost all of the new exits are completed now.
    these stations have got them -

    Seahlome
    Newport
    Spotswood
    Footscray

    Sunbury
    Diggers Rest
    Tottanham
    Strathmore
    Glenbervie
    Moonee Ponds
    Ascot Vale
    Kensington

    Upfield
    Fawkner
    Coburg
    Moreland
    Anstey
    Brunswick
    Jewell

    Thomastown
    Preston
    Clifton Hill
    Collingwood
    Jolimont
    Diamond Creek
    Eltham
    Greensborough
    Macleod
    Rosanna
    Eaglemont
    Darebin
    Alphington
    Fairfield
    Dennis

    Lilydale
    Mooroolbark
    Croydon
    Ringwood
    Blackburn
    East Camberwell

    Ferntree Gully
    Bayswater

    Ashburton
    Burwood

    Mount Waverley
    East Malvern
    Gardiner
    Tooronga
    Kooyong
    Heyington

    Springvale
    Westall
    Murrumbeena

    Cranbourne

    Carrum
    Aspendale
    Mordialloc
    Parkdale
    Cheltenham

    Hampton
    Brighton Beach
    Middle Brighton
    North Brighton
    Ripponlea
    Prahran

    Parliament
    Melbourne Central
    Flagstaff
    Southern Cross
    Flinders Street

    And these stations should get them soon (although I've been thinking that for over a year now).
    North Williamstown p2 - 2 black posts & fence
    Yarrraville p2 - four black posts & a fence (mid platform)
    Seddon p2 - black posts & fence near first exit
    Bell p2 - 2 plinths, temporary fence
    Croxton p2 - 2fpds + 2 silver plinths
    Northcote p2 - 2fpds + black posts, temporary fence, steps with tactiles
    Surrey Hills p1&2 - one silver plinth remaining
    Hallam p2 - 2 plinths & temporary fence in good location
    Posted: 04 Jun 2013 10:40

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      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    I forgot to mention that there are still a few posts with silver plinths at Ringwood platform 3.
    Also, Work Safe Victoria has closed the exit at the down end of Lilydale.
    Posted: 12 Jun 2013 15:51
      Some rail man Junior Train Controller

    Location: CIA Headquarters in Washington D.C
    Also, Work Safe Victoria has closed the exit at the down end of Lilydale.
    Gauntlet
    You're joking! Worksafe!
    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 17:27
      Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Yarra Glen
    Also, Work Safe Victoria has closed the exit at the down end of Lilydale.
    Gauntlet
    Presumably because there is some small chance of being hit by a shunting train?

    A minor inconvenience for those who park on that side.  What Lilydale really needs is access from the west side car park, especially now that it has been extended beyond the old goods shed.  If you are forced to park way down there, you have to walk all the way to the road, cross the track at the level crossing, then walk some distance back to the station.  It would be good to have a safe access to the platform (under or overpass?) from somewhere near the goods shed.
    Posted: 08 Jul 2013 10:40
      Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Terminating at Ringwood
    You know the rules, only City Loop stations are allowed to have more than one separate exit in Victoria, not even Richmond keeps the second exit open if there isn't a footy match, despite the area inside there being open for platform interchange and having a Myki machine sitting just outside the locked gate running 24/7 (I have topped up on this one plenty of times before Richmond itself has even opened for the morning!). Belgrave will probably be next to have its alternate exit fenced off, just in case an X'Trap decides to visit Puffing Billy... Wait, that already happened. Smile

    As for Lilydale, it is a minor inconvenience for anyone who parks there full stop, since the exit on the up end puts you at the bus interchange and taxi bay, and it's highly unlikely they will rebuild the station with new exits since the station is heritage listed (this might be a bit of fun when they decide that the Maroondah Hwy level crossing is "unsafe" to those with Darwin Syndrome, as it's highly unlikely they will demolish the building to put a South Morang there, although double track from Mooroolbark is sorely needed).

    In fact, it's not even convenient if you decide to drive from Lilydale to Mooroolbark, Croydon or Ringwood East to park either, as all three stations are out of the way; you may as well keep following the highway to Heatherdale and hope it isn't chock full. I don't recommend Ringwood's parking area whatsoever, as there is no CCTV, no disabled access, no subway access under the tracks, no station access aside from steel steps going up to the ramp, there isn't even a footpath on that side of the road (Station St). Also, if your car is not a 4WD, expect to scrape the bumper/undercarriage/muffler/exhaust pipe when you enter the car park - I don't mean ricers or Falcodores dropped on their guts either, just regular unmodified family cars. Last year an abandoned/stolen Daihatsu Charade was dumped there, wheel on the kerb and sitting against the wall that is Station Street, for about two months, complete with smashed windows and a flat tyre. Somehow it escaped being torched by the locals.
    Posted: 08 Jul 2013 12:02

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      Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Yarra Glen
    If or when a second track arrives at Lilydale from Mooroolbark, there would then be a need to redesign the track layout.  One option might be to build a new platform where the rarely used and unwired 4 road is, discontinue using platform 1 and remove the track (but without altering the actual building), then link the platforms with a footbridge, the ends of which are in each carpark but outside the paid areas on each side, like the one at Alphington for example.  It should be possible to do that without removing the old goods shed, which could actually become a feature of the new platform.
    Posted: 12 Jul 2013 18:37
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    If or when a second track arrives at Lilydale from Mooroolbark, there would then be a need to redesign the track layout.  One option might be to build a new platform where the rarely used and unwired 4 road is, discontinue using platform 1 and remove the track (but without altering the actual building), then link the platforms with a footbridge, the ends of which are in each carpark but outside the paid areas on each side, like the one at Alphington for example.  It should be possible to do that without removing the old goods shed, which could actually become a feature of the new platform.
    Lad_Porter
    If you grade separated the level crossing you could re-align the tracks without having to build more platforms.
    Posted: 12 Jul 2013 21:13
      g00r Locomotive Fireman

    I like Myki because it means I don't have to sell tickets in an environment where I previously had to. From a commuter point of view, it's a debacle. Fancy not being able to buy a ticket from an unmanned station, tram, or bus.
    "alstom_888m"


    If you're frequently on unmanned buses and teams, perhaps your inability to buy a ticket is not your greatest concern.
    Trespassing is illegal Wink
    Posted: 18 Jul 2013 01:09
      Michaelje Chief Commissioner

    I forgot to mention that there are still a few posts with silver plinths at Ringwood platform 3.
    Also, Work Safe Victoria has closed the exit at the down end of Lilydale.
    Gauntlet

    Work Safe Victoria don't go around closing things; they give recommendations from people on safety

    If it is closed it is because Metro has closed it
    Posted: 15 Aug 2013 12:46

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