Powerline BCH + BWH, RTR from Chinese manufacturer

 
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Powerline note on their facebook page http://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels
"
Coming into store before the end of 2013.
All new out of China with Kadee couplers.
NSWGR BCH and BWH.
8 numbers in BCH
8 numbers in BWH.
SRRP $49.95 each.
They come individually.
Advanced orders available with a deposit of $20 per wagon.
Will be available in shops before Christmas 2013."

Proposed running numbers are also shown. You don't need a facebook account to read the details direct via facebook.

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  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Powerline note on their facebook page http://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels
"
Coming into store before the end of 2013.
All new out of China with Kadee couplers.
NSWGR BCH and BWH.
8 numbers in BCH
8 numbers in BWH.
SRRP $49.95 each.
They come individually.
Advanced orders available with a deposit of $20 per wagon.
Will be available in shops before Christmas 2013."

Proposed running numbers are also shown. You don't need a facebook account to read the details direct via facebook.
Poath Junction

Noticed in the latest British Railway Modelling magazine that Hornby made a huge loss last financial year and are moving much of their production from China to India, recipe for disaster that one.
  Chipps Chief Train Controller

Location: NSW
Thanks for the update Michael.




Never seen one of their earlier BWH's, are they or these newer ones a similar standard as the Hi-Rail hoppers?


Still using  stacks of their NSW coaching stock (FS, BS and so on). Easy to upgrade & look pretty good weathered Wink


I reckon many of Powerline's items  are a good start for an entry level  into this hobby at a reasonable price.



Cheers
Cam





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  brissim Chief Train Controller

Never seen one of their earlier BWH's, are they or these newer ones a similar standard as the Hi-Rail hoppers?

Cheers
Cam





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Chipps
Powerline's earlier attempts at a BWH/BCH were those absolutely rubbish Indian-made ones. They never should have been put on the market (although I recall their eventual sale was outside of Powerline's control).

If these items are as good as their recent Chinese-made stuff (the Victorian wheat hoppers and louvre vans) then they should be as good as anything made by Auscision or OTM. A step above entry level stuff.

Tony
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Various pre-production samples have now been added to the facebook site, these are clearly far more appealing than the Redferm Models from India released a few years ago. May even surpass the Hi-Rail ones!
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
Powerline's earlier attempts at a BWH/BCH were those absolutely rubbish Indian-made ones. They never should have been put on the market (although I recall their eventual sale was outside of Powerline's control).

If these items are as good as their recent Chinese-made stuff (the Victorian wheat hoppers and louvre vans) then they should be as good as anything made by Auscision or OTM. A step above entry level stuff.

Tony
"brissim"


Your right about that Tony, the new BWH/BCH would want to be 1,000 times better than the old ones. Well for $50 they should be! As far as the Powerline louvre vans go, I don't think they have anything on the OTM ones. Same could be said about the Trainorama 48 when they arrive I reckon. All good and well however to say it's good entry level rollingstock, but for a little more $$ you could possibly get a lot better of a model.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

The flyer, linked from facebook. Big version at http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=490037377741519&set=a.247158658696060.58114.246203272124932&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
  Laser Rail Bits Locomotive Driver

Location: Goulburn NSW
OK...I will bite...

What is the point of another manufacturer doing these wagons...or am I missing something???  When we see a contraction of manufacturer numbers ( read going belly up )...They can only point the blame at each other.  Ego seems to be the overriding factor across the board.

Regards,
Rod
  brissim Chief Train Controller

OK...I will bite...

What is the point of another manufacturer doing these wagons...or am I missing something???  When we see a contraction of manufacturer numbers ( read going belly up )...They can only point the blame at each other.  Ego seems to be the overriding factor across the board.

Regards,
Rod
Laser Rail Bits
I would suspect Powerline already had some sort of masters left over from the failed Indian venture and so its probably not a big deal for them/the Chinese to upgrade them and do a run.

Don't accept this argument about duplication. How long has it being going on for now on multiple models and how many manufacturer/importers have gone "belly up"? I think the Australian model railway market is much more resilient then people give it credit for. Of course this may be about to change with Auscision's plans to release the 49 Class loco.

Tony
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Powerline's earlier attempts at a BWH/BCH were those absolutely rubbish Indian-made ones. They never should have been put on the market (although I recall their eventual sale was outside of Powerline's control).

If these items are as good as their recent Chinese-made stuff (the Victorian wheat hoppers and louvre vans) then they should be as good as anything made by Auscision or OTM. A step above entry level stuff.

Tony
brissim

I do not think this latest offering from Powerline are as good as the Trainorama BWH/BCH.
Trainorama model has a much more prototipical roof walks,metal hand rails and coupler lift bars.
Similar story when comparing VSX with OTMs VSX and also Auscisions VHGFs
From looking at that Powerline sample they have a chunky plastic roof walk similar to what the AR Kits version comes with.
I give them credit as they are an improvement on their Indian made efforts but Auscision,OTM and Trainorama are on a higher level in my opinion.
  Iain Chief Commissioner

Location: Concord, NSW
I agree with Rod especially as I think there are still some BCH's available new from Traino. No doubt they will be heavily promoted through the "Powerline Gazette". My question is what "New" model has Powerline actually done in the last 10 years they seem very good at copying others ideas and announced projects.

Iain
  a6et Minister for Railways

Your right about that Tony, the new BWH/BCH would want to be 1,000 times better than the old ones. Well for $50 they should be! As far as the Powerline louvre vans go, I don't think they have anything on the OTM ones. Same could be said about the Trainorama 48 when they arrive I reckon. All good and well however to say it's good entry level rollingstock, but for a little more $$ you could possibly get a lot better of a model.
VN18

The original ones from the PL/India stable were to put it mildly Atrocious, the same as all the other models made from there. The aspect with the previous BCH/BWH besides the so far mentioned items, was the BCH had the side plated version that is representative of the few wagons that received the full replacement side panels for a short period during the steam transition period. These wagons had partial rusted sides completely replaced with a cover panel over the old panels with the rust areas cut out. Those repairs were carried out in loco depots that had the facilities such as Enfield in 2 shed, to keep boilermakers in work as the depot headed towards closure.  In all there were estimated to be less than a couple of hundred done, out of the whole class.

For the BWH they simply added a crude roof to the BCH model & used the same body, which was totally wrong for any of the BWH as none of them were ever repaired in that manner, unless they have retooled the bodies especially the BWH, anyone buying them will be getting what in affect is a fantasy model.

When they were released originally, the price was only the equivalent of $3.00 per wagon less than the High Rail versions. Seeing that the High Rail versions of these models in the fertiliser coding can still be purchased for the equivalent of $40.00 each, I think I would rather repaint & redecal those for a better model, & still end up with money in pocket.

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