PN 3wx4 derailed/disabled at werribee - Cherry Street Crossing 7/8/13

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The steel train has derailed/been disabled at cherry street in Werribee.  Anyone know more?

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  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
The steel train has derailed at cherry street in werribee.  Anyone know more?
bevans
based on posted photos over at facebook land, one of the wagons looks more likaly a banana going through gheringhap. was only a matter of time before somthing went amis.

do we know what, if any, up SG traffic is being affected yet, and where it is being held?
  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Doesn't appear derailed at all? It seems more like they finally noticed the collapsed wagon four down from the locos. NR's 30 & 85 parked about 10cm off the crossing.
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
Doesn't appear derailed at all? It seems more like they finally noticed the collapsed wagon four down from the locos. NR's 30 & 85 parked about 10cm off the crossing.
VBAndy

ABC news is reporting the train as derailed.
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
metro is now reporting delays on the werribee line:

Delays up to 10 mins between Laverton and Werribee caused by a faulty freight train caught in the section across Cherry St & Werribee Rd level crossings. This is blocking a Metro track in and out of Werribee station. As such there is increased congestion on the causing delays. Please anticipate that some outbound trains may be cancelled.
  Michelle12 Moderator Photo Overlord

Location: Melbourne


(IM The top photo was taken by Brendan Perrottet while the one below was from Graham Elliott's Gheringhap cam.


YARI = (Yet Another Railcam Image)

ADMIN Updated.
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
if not derailed then move the train to Laverton loop and cut the wagon out?
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
ABC news is reporting the train as derailed.
MikeyJackson
The ABC and truth don't always mix in the same circles.
  stuie83 Train Controller

Location: Stawell
Train through stawell at 11.36am, looked fine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo9MYqnNm60
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

metro is now reporting delays on the werribee line:

Delays up to 10 mins between Laverton and Werribee caused by a faulty freight train caught in the section across Cherry St & Werribee Rd level crossings. This is blocking a Metro track in and out of Werribee station. As such there is increased congestion on the causing delays. Please anticipate that some outbound trains may be cancelled.
MikeyJackson
Ahm, standard gauge train at Werribee is blocking a broad gauge train and causing Metro delays. Hmmmm! WTF?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Looking back over this mornings images from Bunbury Street the train http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/9461259152 3XW4 departed the steel terminal for the journey north at 5:19am this morning. Michelle, what time did the train eventually get into Melbourne after the delays?

The departure from Melbourne.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NR75-XRB562-NR67 on an UP Patricks AM3 at Stawell this morning.  The delayed trains are now coming through.



Regards
Brian
  Michelle12 Moderator Photo Overlord

Location: Melbourne
4MA5 with 9304-9302 through Gheringhap @ 04:43
4MP5 with NR63-NR73 through Gheringhap @ 05:53
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Michelle, did the steel train arrive into Melbourne eventually?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


photo by John Nicholson

I wonder if the load had shifted in transit?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out


photo by John Nicholson

I wonder if the load had shifted in transit?
bevans

The 40 odd year old wagon broke..... I wonder why Rolling Eyes
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The train has finally arrived into the MOT.

http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/9464247386

24 hours late.

Regards
Brian
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Why would it take so long to take out one wagon?  Surely the wagon could have been shunted out in less than 24 hours?

Did the train arrive with or without the suspect wagon?
  NR77 Chief Commissioner

I noticed the steelie creeping out of Laverton loop yesterday and managed to get a closer look. It appears the train was stabled in the loop overnight and departed about 13:30, travelling at approximately 5km/h. There were several people in hi-vis walking beside the wagon all the way from the loop to the CRT siding at Paisley where the offending steel wagon was cut out of the train and placed into the CRT area to be scrapped.
I assume from there the train was remarshalled and proceeded to the MST.

The large crack in the underframe had a steel plate temporarily welded in place over it.
  G41 Chief Commissioner

Location: Footplate of any K class
It's the railways...things never happen quickly!!
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria




Michelle12
How about you credit the photographer when you post photos on here. I've noticed over the last week or so a lot of photos from Facebook have made their way onto Railpage without credit. It's a practice that needs to stop!
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I am on a few facebook groups for rail discussion (there is never any real discussion just sighting posts)  and whinging about access to buncam being restricted.  Are you suggesting facebook based photos are restricted?  They are not and can be linked by anyone.

The image in question looks like it may have been taken by a phone it is such poor quality.  It is true photos should be linked with the photographer where possible as a matter of courtesy. So to a certain extent you are right, but you make a point about the practice needing to stop.  Which practice?

Your post could be interpreted as being a complaint about the use of images from facebook groups like TDU and RAA?  Is this the case?  It would appear to me from group discussions facebook groups have some a long time leaching off Railpage's good will.

I would hope the groups and Railpage could share information.
  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Can you try English and rephrase? Providing a source info is the done thing, crediting/mentioning the owner of used photos is also the done thing, not doing so is blatantly rude.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guys,

I have corrected the posts above.  Can I suggest that we all calm down.  People are welcome to share images across the forums and the facebook groups you may be a member of.  Where using an image, please quote the owner/photographer.  I don't want to get too precious about this.  Where it is a Railpage Image, and it is assumed to be from the Railcams I think we can work that one out so don't worry too much and enjoy the service. I was not aware there was a systemic problem with images being posted without the photographer. We are all on the same side here and Railpage is not in competition with anyone.  

Regards
Brian
  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

I was not aware there was a systemic problem with images being posted without the photographer. We are all on the same side here and Railpage is not in competition with anyone.
bevans
You haven't heard of Facebook then, have you? When info does get posted here, its hours or even days after it hits facebook. I'm not trying to start anything, but your statement is incorrect!

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