Building Walthers' Cornerstone buildings.

 
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
I'm going to sounds like a huge newbie and I certainly am in this case (this will be the first building kit I've attempted...), however, before I use the wrong glue on it, what should I be using to build up a Walthers' Cornerstone building? (Specifically the Medusa Cement works in HO scale)

I've got a tube of Humbrol Poly Cement, I just wanted to make sure that's right or if I should use something else instead.

Wolfpac

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  a6et Minister for Railways

I'm going to sounds like a huge newbie and I certainly am in this case (this will be the first building kit I've attempted...), however, before I use the wrong glue on it, what should I be using to build up a Walthers' Cornerstone building? (Specifically the Medusa Cement works in HO scale)

I've got a tube of Humbrol Poly Cement, I just wanted to make sure that's right or if I should use something else instead.

Wolfpac
wolfpac
Wolfie,  I kitbashed  a Cornerstone Merchants Row while I did not have Humbrol, as I use Revel Poly cement I did not have any real issues with that.

The Cornerstone plastic is fairly thick & I found some issues at time with the angled edges that you have to hold in place to have the glue take hold, & obtain a neat & clean weld.  If I was doing them again I would be looking at getting some corner clamps that hold those joins in place.  That said, once dry or next day it was a task to try & undo one poor spot owing to the way the glues react.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Tetra and/or MEK are my weapons of choice.
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

I'm going to sounds like a huge newbie and I certainly am in this case (this will be the first building kit I've attempted...), however, before I use the wrong glue on it, what should I be using to build up a Walthers' Cornerstone building? (Specifically the Medusa Cement works in HO scale)

I've got a tube of Humbrol Poly Cement, I just wanted to make sure that's right or if I should use something else instead.

Wolfpac
wolfpac

I used Humbrol Poly cement on my Walthers loco shed conversion
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
Personally I found humbrol to be unsatisfactory. It takes really quickly, which is good, but after a few months, the glue joins appear to let go.

This isn't so bad for kit buildings, which get built, then placed on a layout and never handled, but for rollingstock it can cause quite a bit of heartache, with loose parts, broken couplers etc.

My choice of hobby glue is "Revell Contacta Proffesional". It comes in a distinctive blue bottle, and, whilst not perfect, it appears to last alot longer than Humbrol glue.

If you come accross the classic problem of glue getting caught in the needle tip and drying, (assuming you are using humbrol glue in a neddle tip bottle) just get a "BIC" lighter, and burn the excess glue out of the tip. (needless to say, do this in a well ventilated area) Sometimes it will take 2 or 3 attempts to burn all the excess glue out.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Tetra and/or MEK are my weapons of choice.
Aaron
I have to agree with Aaron here although I mainly use MEK but I have heard Tetra has better grab so it enables one to work faster on the kit. Both are applied by a small paint brush though on the inside of the model only, capillary action will make it go into the join, keep fingers well away from joins though unless you want your fingerprints on the model.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Great, thanks for all the help and tips! Appreciate it. Very Happy

So what I have will do the job "ok" but Tetra or MEK is better.

All would be a well ventilated/outside task though, naturally? More so the Tetra/MEK glues?

Thanks again, certainly helps!

Wolfpac
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
If you want to try MEK and cannot get clear MEK then go to your local hardware store and get some PVC priming fluid for plastic pipes it is straight 100% MEK except it is dyed red so that it can be seen by the plumbing inspectors etc. It will do the job however it leaves a reddish stain if too much is used so a repaint of the model is advised. With the clear MEK you might get away without repainting it.

This is good to know if you are halfway through a job and suddenly run out of MEK. Just nick down to your nearest hardware store and buy a bottle of it. It will at least complete it even if you do have to repaint it which most do anyway.

I used to be a plumber and read what was in the bottle one day, also this cleaning fluid is a lot cheaper from the hardware store than buying it from a chemical supply company as well.

Use it only in a very well ventilated area and away from sources of ignition like pilot lights on gas stoves and the like. It stinks a lot so you would be well advised to use it in the shed or something to save the household authorities from complaining. Store it in the shed as well in a cool place it will evaporate real quick.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I would also suggest that as a cheap standby, ordinary GP thinners work well, use a small paint brush to run a bead along the joins, hold for a short time & it should take. Be careful in using it & apply to the inside of the join only.

I would try what you have first on some test bits before having to go out & buy something else when what you have may be perfectly ok for the job.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I keep my solvents (MEK, Tetra etc) in the fridge.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I keep my solvents (MEK, Tetra etc) in the fridge.
Aaron
Jeeze the fritz and cheese taste funny today. LaughingLaughing
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Jeeze the fritz and cheese taste funny today. LaughingLaughing
David Peters
I take my cheese extremely seriously (one of my best mates is a pro cheesemaker) and the solvents make no difference to anything in the fridge - they are in sealed bottles and stored below their vapour point. Hence, it does however stop them evaporating in between my spasmodic periods of modelling.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Thanks for the tips, too, a6et, I'll give it a go on some offcuts/sprue first and see how it goes. Wouldn't hurt to get some practise anyway before tackling a structure having no experience building structures. Last kit I attempted was a SEM AW car when I was about 8-10 years old... I do have to dig that up and finish it, but I digress!

The Walthers structure will be picked up/packed up a LOT being a portable modular layout, so it'll need to be solid and stand up to transporting.

And interesting idea with the glues in the fridge, makes sense - sheds can get pretty hot in the summer (or some Spring days, too!). Just have to store it properly, common sense of course, just have to keep it out of reach of my son - one for the hidden away bar fridge! (Again very common sense, of course...!)

Wolfpac
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
And interesting idea with the glues in the fridge, makes sense - sheds can get pretty hot in the summer (or some Spring days, too!). Just have to store it properly, common sense of course, just have to keep it out of reach of my son - one for the hidden away bar fridge! (Again very common sense, of course...!)

Wolfpac
"wolfpac"
It wasn't my idea, heaps of women keep their expensive perfumes in the fridge for the same reasons.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
It wasn't my idea, heaps of women keep their expensive perfumes in the fridge for the same reasons.
Aaron
Well if it's a good idea and works, why not? Very Happy

Wolfpac
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Isn't that a co-incidence? I keep my expensive women in the fridge too.....
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Doesn't it then take too long to get them warm?
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Frigid women, leave me cold!Laughing
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Isn't that a co-incidence? I keep my expensive women in the fridge too.....
TheBlacksmith
Reminds me of someone like this... SmileLaughing

Wolfpac
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
A bit of thread revival here after a loooong time, however, I finally managed to build up that "Hoffa Cement" plant from Walthers on Monday (11/11/13).

After building a little Telephone Shanty from Atlas (for practise!), I set out to build up the Cement plant.

Didn't take long at all, really, and while there's a few things I'd probably redo (thinner plastic parts that weren't flat, piping etc) I think it came out pretty well. Very Happy

http://wolfpacfotos.com/index.php/Hoffa-Cement-11-11-13

Wolfpac
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
Wolfy,

It did not work for me mate.  I so wanted to see your building too.

Message:

The page you requested does not exist.

This can be caused by an out-of-date link or bookmark, or a mis-typed address. It might even be a momentary problem at our end! Please try again.

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Tried again a couple of times, still no go.  Is the URL correct?

Best regards,
John
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Wolfy,

It did not work for me mate.  I so wanted to see your building too.

Message:

Best regards,
John
John_Bushell
Whoops, I didn't actually click the URL after submitting the post!

Looks like RP didn't like the lack of WWW on the URL and truncated the : out of the address.

Here's the proper address: http://www.wolfpacfotos.com/index.php/Hoffa-Cement-11-11-13

Wolfpac
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
I've added a few more photos to the gallery, a few more "progress" shots.

Now to paint the thing! Smile

Wolfpac
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
I've added a few more photos to the gallery, a few more "progress" shots.

Now to paint the thing! Smile

Wolfpac
wolfpac
Looks good Wolfman, but yeah, paint will make it even better.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Looks good Wolfman, but yeah, paint will make it even better.
John_Bushell
Thanks! Very Happy I've been put onto some nice chalks by another club member, might see if I can see them this weekend at the Croydon show.

Wolfpac

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