The Newcastle Flyer In The 1960s

 
  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
Like many contributors to this site, I spent a considerable amount of my youth between Gosford and Newcastle. During that time, I rode on the Newcastle Flyer behind might 38 class on many occasions.

I have been busy writing my memoirs on a web site and others are contributing their stories too. I have recorded a story remembering my trips on the Flyer at http://steamtrainstories.com/australia/nsw/the-newcastle-flyer/  One thing I will be doing a little later is compiling the 30 or so timings of 38s on this train and presenting this information too.







I spent much time pressed against the window or riding in the guard's compartment to record the speeds o this famous train.

I guess this is appropriate, considering Newcastle Station may soon be without trains.

For now, we can relive our journeys at http://steamtrainstories.com

John

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  Showtime Chief Train Controller

As a young child in the 60's and travelling with my mother from Central to Newcastle I would always get off at Gosford and watch the 46 being taken off and the 38 hooked up.
When we would get to Newcastle, I would walk up to the head of the train and watch the 38 being uncoupled.
The loco would be surrounded in steam and covered in dust and condensation with white stains running over the boiler casings and it always reminded me of a racehorse after an event covered in white perspiration.
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
great pics ,spent years 1930s t0 1960s on this line. Locos with black and green paints. always a 36,38 maybe a 35.
Broadmeadow depot behind our house and the Gully line in front
The old Hawkesbury bridge  was a fright. during WW2,feared a TAY bridge event ,ice cream and meals from the buffet.
  MC3801 Train Controller

3801 set the record for the Newcastle Flyer on 28th June 1964 and 3801 hauled a special Newcastle Flyer to celebrate it 25th anniversary on 31st May 1969.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
What era did the diesels take over that run?
Don't forget the Cessnock express, it would of been a classic.
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

44's took over the run from Gosford at times but the 38's were still doing it for quite a bit even after diesels were entrenched every where else
  1210_5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Over the Hills & far away...
Hi All

It's probably been bought up before, but here's some footage of the Newcastle Flyer from Youtube:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfD7-cpgugc

I DON'T own ANY of this footage - all rights to the relevant owner/s.

Enjoy

K 8)
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

I can watch that old film over and over again each time it gets resurrected.
(even with the unannounced cameo appearances of 3820 and 3822 popping in when 3827 is supposed to be running)
  tezza Chief Commissioner

3801 set the record for the Newcastle Flyer on 28th June 1964 and 3801 hauled a special Newcastle Flyer to celebrate it 25th anniversary on 31st May 1969.
MC3801
What was the record and the timings?
  MC3801 Train Controller

It was the speed record for the Newcastle Flyer. The timings were 2 hours, 1 minute and 51 seconds. 3801 actually just fell short of the two hour mark on the return journey, and in October 1988, an XPT shaved six minutes and four seconds off the record.
  1210_5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Over the Hills & far away...
I can watch that old film over and over again each time it gets resurrected.
(even with the unannounced cameo appearances of 3820 and 3822 popping in when 3827 is supposed to be running)
Showtime
And 3828 to - you can just see the last "8" while the fireman attempts to hide it by holding a rag in front of it.... Also somebody repainted 3828's buffer numbers to 3827 but left the cab numbers in tact, so essentially that could have confused a couple of people!!! Razz

Cheers

K 8)
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
As a fireman at Eveleigh on the Salary roster I worked the Flyer a number of times in the 1960's, the run as far as Gosford with a 46 was easy for the fireman but from Gosford to Newcastle the rostered locos were supposed to be either a 38 or a 36 but on a number of occasions it was run with a 35 and the Broadmeadow 35's at that time were something of a mixed bag.
From memory if we had a 35 there was an allowable seven minutes time loss allowed.
Diesels were sometimes used but the preferred diesels were the 40 and 43 classes as they could run a little over the speed boards not having speedo's with tapes and run the timetable.
The most memorable trip I can recall saw us fail the 38 at Wyong and take the only available loco to work the train forward, a 60 class, our arrival in Newcastle was only 19 minutes down on the table, a run that I will never forget.
  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
Thanks everyone for your comments. They really add context to the story. After some effort I have put together a slide show of my Flyer photos at www.youtube.com/watch?v=KozL8nLTV9s


Enjoy
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

Linky no worky
  1210_5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Over the Hills & far away...
Linky no worky
Showtime


Try this one:

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Looks like there was a couple of extra characters in there that were throwing the link…..

P.S. Loving the photos in the video!!!

Enjoy Smile

K 8)

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