Program underway to improve XPT reliability (TfNSW)

 
  kypros1992 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Sydney
And still no long term fix like actually buying new stock
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http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/program-underway-improve-xpt-reliability

A range of new maintenance initiatives and strict standards are being rolled out in an effort to boost the reliability of NSW TrainLink’s XPT fleet.

NSW TrainLink began operation on 1 July, dedicated to providing comfortable and reliable intercity and regional travel on trains and coaches.
Rob Mason, NSW Trains Chief Executive said customer satisfaction was at the forefront of everything NSW TrainLink does and the organisation was keen to act to reduce the number of breakdowns seen in the past.
“As a new operator our focus is on making sure our customers have a comfortable and enjoyable journey so we have introduced a range of new initiatives aimed at improving the reliability of our services,” Mr Mason said.
“In addition to daily maintenance and our already high standards, there have been a number of measures implemented aimed at reducing the likelihood of faults on our XPT fleet.”

These measures include:
  • frequent replacement of components such as wheel bearings
  • an anti-corrosion program, including examinations for corrosion and minor repairs
  • communication systems upgrades
  • establishment of a Reliability Improvement Program Team tasked with investigating incidents and creating solutions for future issues
“I understand how frustrating a break down can be for our customers,” Mr Mason said.
“I can assure customers I am committed to looking closely at the reliability of our services so we can understand each fault and reduce the number of incidents on the network.”

NSW TrainLink’s XPT fleet travels around 3.5 million kilometers a year, taking customers to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Dubbo, Grafton and Casino.
The fleet is serviced at a dedicated holding yard and maintenance centre at Sydenham. In addition to regular upkeep the trains receive regular extensive cleans, which includes the
recycling of onboard water supplies and window cleaning.


From July 2010 until 19 June 2013, there were 48 XPT breakdowns out of the 13,000 trips made by XPTs.

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  fixitguy Chief Train Controller

Location: In Carriage 4 on a Tangara
And still no long term fix like actually buying new stock
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http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/program-underway-improve-xpt-reliability

A range of new maintenance initiatives and strict standards are being rolled out in an effort to boost the reliability of NSW TrainLink’s XPT fleet.

NSW TrainLink began operation on 1 July, dedicated to providing comfortable and reliable intercity and regional travel on trains and coaches.
Rob Mason, NSW Trains Chief Executive said customer satisfaction was at the forefront of everything NSW TrainLink does and the organisation was keen to act to reduce the number of breakdowns seen in the past.
“As a new operator our focus is on making sure our customers have a comfortable and enjoyable journey so we have introduced a range of new initiatives aimed at improving the reliability of our services,” Mr Mason said.
“In addition to daily maintenance and our already high standards, there have been a number of measures implemented aimed at reducing the likelihood of faults on our XPT fleet.”

These measures include:
  • frequent replacement of components such as wheel bearings
  • an anti-corrosion program, including examinations for corrosion and minor repairs
  • communication systems upgrades
  • establishment of a Reliability Improvement Program Team tasked with investigating incidents and creating solutions for future issues
“I understand how frustrating a break down can be for our customers,” Mr Mason said.
“I can assure customers I am committed to looking closely at the reliability of our services so we can understand each fault and reduce the number of incidents on the network.”

NSW TrainLink’s XPT fleet travels around 3.5 million kilometers a year, taking customers to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Dubbo, Grafton and Casino.
The fleet is serviced at a dedicated holding yard and maintenance centre at Sydenham. In addition to regular upkeep the trains receive regular extensive cleans, which includes the
recycling of onboard water supplies and window cleaning.


From July 2010 until 19 June 2013, there were 48 XPT breakdowns out of the 13,000 trips made by XPTs.
kypros1992
its a start. but then if they are serious about regional transport they should get some new trains and upgrade the track (so we can actually do 160kph) but knowing NSW we will probably get coaches.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
48 breakdowns out of 13,000 trips are great numbers, if they are in fact true.
I would love to see Metro and V/Line stats.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
48 breakdowns out of 13,000 trips are great numbers, if they are in fact true.
I would love to see Metro and V/Line stats.
QSB6.7

Excellent performance and some people wonder why the NSW govt isn't buying new stock yet
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Excellent performance and some people wonder why the NSW govt isn't buying new stock yet
"RTT_Rules"
Sounds good until you check out last year's on-time running statistics.
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
On time running statistics are only of value if the reasons for late running are within
the trains operators control,and arnt as a result of 3rd parties or track work .
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
A couple are getting a bit smokey.
Where do the Koreans get the money for bullet train infrastructure?
We need to bore some tunnels and build some bridges to get at least some 160km/h sections happening.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Sounds good until you check out last year's on-time running statistics.
Watson374

What % of on time running problems were due to maintenance or reliability issues?
  djf01 Chief Commissioner


http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/program-underway-improve-xpt-reliability
kypros1992
Just to compare Apples with Oranges:

from Vline 2012 Annual Report


The reliability of the V/Line passenger train fleet
improved significantly in 2011-12 following the
progressive introduction of a range of enhanced
maintenance
procedures.
The VLocity units travelled an average of
120,390 km
between faults, compared with 106,066 km the previous
year and 94,423 in 2009-10. The availability of these
units decreased slightly on previous years as their first
major maintenance overhauls began to fall due. Average
availability for 2011-12 was
88.9 per cent
compared
with
90.7 per cent the previous year and 89 per cent
in
2009-11.
V/Line has 134 VLocity carriages in service following
the delivery of two three-car units in August and
September
2011.
A concerted preventative maintenance program on the
Sprinter fleet improved reliability to
28,913 km
between
faults, compared with 23,638 in 2010-11. The increased
maintenance program contributed to a reduction in
Sprinter availability to
85.4 per cent
, compared with
87.9
per cent the previous year.
Reliability of the locomotive fleet also improved during
the year as a result of improved maintenance practices
and progress on a number of modifications. Locomotives
travelled an average
28,278 km
between faults,
compared with 25,537 km in 2010-11. The availability
of locomotives also improved during the year (up from
81 per cent to 84.69 per cent) as a result of the standard
gauge locomotives being fully committed to service.
VLine Annual Report 2012

XPT Sets do on average ~1200km a day and fail 48 in times in 1095 days x 9 (operating sets) for a failure rate of ....
One in 235000km.

Just a guess of course, but I expect Rob Mason is quoting the services cancelled due to mechanical failure, not unit failure rate
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
What % of on time running problems were due to maintenance or reliability issues?
"Groover"
Don't ask me, I read published figures that don't tell me jack. D;
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

A couple are getting a bit smokey.
Where do the Koreans get the money for bullet train infrastructure?
We need to bore some tunnels and build some bridges to get at least some 160km/h sections happening.
Junction box
Korea still has lots of people without cars unlike here where only the young, aged brain dead and the generally brain dead do not have cars (price of 2nd hand cars are now so low anybody can afford one). My father in law is 90 and retained his full licence a couple of months ago. I have a free rail ticket but rarely use it. Trains take far too long for short distances with planes best for long distances. USA, Canada and Australia a very similar in respect of car ownership and generally poor public transport. Rich democracies mean cars. This is why Abbott is on a winner promising to fund roads and as most on Railpage seem to love him and will vote for the moron you must agree with his road's policy (I do not generally agree with all of this but this is the reality of the situation).
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Korea still has lots of people without cars unlike here where only the young, aged brain dead and the generally brain dead do not have cars (price of 2nd hand cars are now so low anybody can afford one). My father in law is 90 and retained his full licence a couple of months ago. I have a free rail ticket but rarely use it. Trains take far too long for short distances with planes best for long distances. USA, Canada and Australia a very similar in respect of car ownership and generally poor public transport. Rich democracies mean cars. This is why Abbott is on a winner promising to fund roads and as most on Railpage seem to love him and will vote for the moron you must agree with his road's policy (I do not generally agree with all of this but this is the reality of the situation).
nswtrains
Korea , and I presume South Korea is whats being talked about also has a population of 50 million people in a country
only marginally bigger than the State of Tasmania.
Very easy to build high speed trains in such circumstances.
Need to compare apples with apples.
Not too many countries in the world as big as Australia, but with only 23 million people have high speed trains.
  CaseyJones Chief Commissioner

Location: A little south of sanity
Sounds good until you check out last year's on-time running statistics.
Watson374

You will find a large portion of delays to the trains you refer to were caused by TSRs on the Main South.

Recently a XPL service off the South arrived at SYD 13" late due to a poor network control decision. This has become an increasingly regular occurrence of late.

While the XPTs have had a recent patch of unreliability, generally both the XPTs and XPLs are rarely total failures or running more than 10 minutes late due to causes of their operator.

Good on TfNSW/NSW Trains for looking at these options to improve reliability.

Cheers
  Oldfart Chief Commissioner

Location: Right base for BK 11R
As a layman one of the only irritating features I notice on XPTs (apart from the tracks on which it has to operate) is a lot of what I think is bogie noise. i thought the relentless squeaking was maybe just typical of the class, but I only rarely heard it on the British equivalent and almost none at all on other European passenger trains. Anyone know what causes it to be so?
  boromisa Junior Train Controller

Korea , and I presume South Korea is whats being talked about also has a population of 50 million people in a country
only marginally bigger than the State of Tasmania.
Very easy to build high speed trains in such circumstances.
Need to compare apples with apples.
Not too many countries in the world as big as Australia, but with only 23 million people have high speed trains.
MD
It is amazing how everyone starts looking for excuses as soon as you mention HSR instead of demanding that politicians do something.

HSR is not an expensive toy, it's a chance to transform Australia and get people to move out of the gridlocked can called Sydney.

If someone can live in Southern Highlands or Canberra and be in Sydney in less than 1 hour why would you live here and sit in traffic for 2 hours every day?

Not having a dig at you personally that is the general mind set.  

USA, Canada and Australia a very similar in respect of car ownership and generally poor public transport. Rich democracies mean cars. This is why Abbott is on a winner promising to fund roads and as most on Railpage seem to love him and will vote for the moron you must agree with his road's policy (I do not generally agree with all of this but this is the reality of the situation).
nswtrains
Spot on.

Most people here couldn't care less about passenger trains. As long as price of fuel is ok and there are enough Holdens and Fords who gives a ...
  a6et Minister for Railways

As a layman one of the only irritating features I notice on XPTs (apart from the tracks on which it has to operate) is a lot of what I think is bogie noise. i thought the relentless squeaking was maybe just typical of the class, but I only rarely heard it on the British equivalent and almost none at all on other European passenger trains. Anyone know what causes it to be so?
Oldfart
IIRC  The bogies were another of the alteration/adjustments made to suit the NSW rail network, in many ways not too successfully though, & the squeak I think is part of the problem.

Bare in mind that the HST runs on much straighter track, & as I understand heavier track than we have here, same as in Europe.  I also understand that England has a lot more dedicated fast tracks for their trains that even poor old inefficient steam hauled services run on at speeds of up 100mph.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
"HSR is not an expensive toy, it's a chance to transform Australia and get people to move out of the gridlocked can called Sydney."

There's two sides to that one . You're say the needs of the few that hate Sydney enough not to want to live there find it ok to accept money and jobs from there . My response is if you want to make the break from the smoke make it a total one or don't kid yourself .

Also Sydney rail is often gridlocked so where are your dedicated HSR lines going to be located ? People once dreamed of making "the break" by moving to the Central Coast , now there are so many suburbs and stations there that rapid transit serving all stations is an impossibility . Same in the Blue mountains , stop all stations and it takes forever .

Tis a sad fact of life that both people and freight on road have far greater flexibility than either on rail . Not everyone in rural centres lives next to a railway station and if the stations are close enough together you can kiss high speed goodbye .
It really doesn't matter if it's containers or people , when they leave a large built up populated area such as Sydney and stream out to thousands of far flung locations they will never go straight to their destination if going via a railway station or yard .

Ultimately the issue isn't lack of transport - it's too many people . You can build more roads and railway lines and when more move in to take advantage of them what have you solved ? Better to move the businesses and the jobs out of Sydney - but then people don't like that either .
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

"HSR is not an expensive toy, it's a chance to transform Australia and get people to move out of the gridlocked can called Sydney."

There's two sides to that one . You're say the needs of the few that hate Sydney enough not to want to live there find it ok to accept money and jobs from there . My response is if you want to make the break from the smoke make it a total one or don't kid yourself .

Also Sydney rail is often gridlocked so where are your dedicated HSR lines going to be located ? People once dreamed of making "the break" by moving to the Central Coast , now there are so many suburbs and stations there that rapid transit serving all stations is an impossibility . Same in the Blue mountains , stop all stations and it takes forever .

Tis a sad fact of life that both people and freight on road have far greater flexibility than either on rail . Not everyone in rural centres lives next to a railway station and if the stations are close enough together you can kiss high speed goodbye .
It really doesn't matter if it's containers or people , when they leave a large built up populated area such as Sydney and stream out to thousands of far flung locations they will never go straight to their destination if going via a railway station or yard .

Ultimately the issue isn't lack of transport - it's too many people . You can build more roads and railway lines and when more move in to take advantage of them what have you solved ? Better to move the businesses and the jobs out of Sydney - but then people don't like that either .
BDA
De-centralization has failed in all cases the government has tried it. It is an old pipe dream of the agrarian socialists in the country party rump of the conservatives. One problem is people do not want to live in these places as there are no jobs and never will be. As the HST will mainly service capital cities and already established regional towns I fail to see what it will do for de-centralization.

On news more immediate to this thread this mornings down XPT to Dubbo had problems at Penrith and held up W525 for 15 minutes. More often than not this is the usual cause of W525 running late.
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
IIRC  The bogies were another of the alteration/adjustments made to suit the NSW rail network, in many ways not too successfully though, & the squeak I think is part of the problem.
a6et
Actually my understanding was that Comeng put a very large amount of effort into developing their own high-speed bolsterless bogie design for the XPT that they called the CT22. However the SRA were never very sure about it and so ran it least one test train of older carriages fitted with prototype CT22s against imported BR BT10s, as used on the Intercity 125.

Even though the CT22s significantly outperformed the BT10s for comfort, SRA in their infinite wisdom went with the BT10s and so a somewhat-modified design was put into production as the NHA type.

The XAM cars use the even-less-good NMA design, which suffered cracking issues early in their service lives and had a 140 km/h speed restriction for a while.

I travelled in XAM2175 last month and if the intolerable endless squeaking is caused by the bogies (not the entire carriage frame deforming, as I initially thought), then the fellow at SRA who decided against the CT22s deserves to be shot.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting for the sky to fall, the seas to rise... and seeing a train on the SSFL!
Spot on.

Most people here couldn't care less about passenger trains. As long as price of fuel is ok and there are enough Holdens and Fords who gives a ...
boromisa


In MacMansion land more like Kluger Grandes.  Wink
A few BMW X5s around too.

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