A-City trains

 
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
I have also heard from several sources out side this group that there maybe a test run of the A-City on Monday.
Tonsley213
I'm glad you said "maybe", somebody had better tell Bombardier that they are doing a test trip on Monday, they would probably like to know as well.

Wayne

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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I'm glad you said "maybe", somebody had better tell Bombardier that they are doing a test trip on Monday, they would probably like to know as well.

Wayne
hosk1956
Rundle Street rumours, where would you be without them Wayne! Laughing
  sas85 Chief Commissioner

Location: V1
They shouldn't need the train to test clearances, they should have all of that known before the design leaves the page.
"Aaron"



Wow Aaron, just wow.

Ever heard the story of the BL entering brand new Keswick Terminal for the first time? Clearance testing is actually quite a normal practice.. I thought you would be one of the people on here to understand that.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

... Clearance testing is actually quite a normal practice...
sas85
Which of course would have been one of the many reasons that road delivery (on routes used for many much larger loads) is better than rail delivery. Who in their right mind would want to do over 900 kilometres of clearance testing for a one-time delivery run?

One has to wonder why Bombardier didn't send over a partially completed end car and centre car (i.e. before any internal work was done) to be towed around for clearance testing some time late last year. They obviously had quite a bit of confidence that it was all going to be fine on the night, but the long delays in deliveries and the report (admittedly an unverified one) that modifications have already been made would indicate they were wrong. I wonder what else they've said "she'll be right mate" which will come back to bite the suffering taxpayers in the ar$e?
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Wow Aaron, just wow.

Ever heard the story of the BL entering brand new Keswick Terminal for the first time? Clearance testing is actually quite a normal practice.. I thought you would be one of the people on here to understand that.
"sas85"


You'd think that they should be sure of clearances before the design leaves the page but when the IMU 160s were introduced in Brisbane it was discovered that they were too big for the inner city tunnels so some of the non-structural concrete had to be removed from the walls or the ceilings of the tunnels so there would be enough clearance for the new trains.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

You'd think that they should be sure of clearances before the design leaves the page but when the IMU 160s were introduced in Brisbane it was discovered that they were too big for the inner city tunnels so some of the non-structural concrete had to be removed from the walls or the ceilings of the tunnels so there would be enough clearance for the new trains.
GeoffreyHansen
The problems would usually be with the local infrastructure, not the new vehicles. It could be caused by old data that was not accurate enough at the time of recording, working on old data when stuff shifts and deteriorate around over time, less than rigorous communication during the specification and design processes (probably the most likely reason for issues in Adelaide), or even the new vehicles behaving in unexpected ways on the local track.

You're right that they should be known, but it's never good enough just to go on anything with 'should' when there's potential for a big crunch involved. If it was expected that there could be issues then a prototype should have been sent over for clearance testing earlier in the whole process, although Adelaide-Marion being reconstructed would have made that awkward if it wasn't done during late 2012.
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Wow Aaron, just wow.

Ever heard the story of the BL entering brand new Keswick Terminal for the first time? Clearance testing is actually quite a normal practice.. I thought you would be one of the people on here to understand that.
sas85
Being interstate, I am not aware of this one either... Can you elaborate please as to where the problem occurred. Three years ago I was at York Railway Museum and the Hogwarts engine an ex GWR design had scraped its cylinder covers on the platforms of the no ex GWR area on both sides! I presume it was something similar to that?

Regards

Trevor

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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Could that BL incident be by the same engineer that said steam locomotive 504 could go down the Port Line to the then PDSRM (NRM). It only got to Bowden before hitting the platform there, but the experts are never wrong are they! Laughing
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Did the rumoured A-City test actually happen yesterday?  I'm guessing not.
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Did the rumoured A-City test actually happen yesterday?  I'm guessing not.
don_dunstan
You guessed correctly.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
You guessed correctly.
hosk1956

It's my psychic powers.  I can know things without actually having to see them.

Maybe not too far away though?
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Did the rumoured A-City test actually happen yesterday?  I'm guessing not.
I took the rail substitute bus up to Noarlunga Centre with my camera, not really expecting to see the new train. Enquiry from the railway kiosk proprietor confirmed that there had been no visit. The station is not a good place to look out for the train when it does finally appear. There are blocks on the tracks on the Seaford side of the platforms and no decent view of the line from its vicinity. The best vantage point would be the Goldsmith Drive bridge a few hundred metres to the South.

Wiring is being carried out near Marino Rocks, where my return bus was held up for five minutes or so by two road/rail trucks being driven off the tracks onto the road at the end of the working day. One more, a little down the track, remained to be returned to the road.

When I alighted at Oaklands there had been no action, though the steelwork was distributed to the erection sites a day or so ago. I wouldn't be surprized to find that  it began today. I'll check tomorrow morning. The gantry on the Warradale side of the Diagonal/Morphett Roads crossing has been there for some time.
  trainznbuses Train Controller

Location: Seacliff Park, SA
I have been reliably informed (thanks Dad Razz) that 4001 set has just left the shed at Seaford under its own power (Is still in the yards at this stage) in the last 20 minutes.
Lots of High Vis peoples around the place.
Future movements for the rest of today unknown at this stage.
A quick trip to Noarlunga and back maybe??

Photos may be to come tonight.
  yoyoman Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA
Channel 10 news showed a small snippet of video showing some slow running on the 5.30 news update Wink
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Channel 10 news showed a small snippet of video showing some slow running on the 5.30 news update Wink
yoyoman

Yep I was told by someone they spotted an electric train at Noarlunga Centre station today.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Tens news story on the secret testing: http://ten.com.au/ten-news-adelaide.htm?vid=2650289246001.

When the reporter mentions about the old diesels train resuming, it's like he forgets to say when they are resuming.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I was sent a picture form the cab of 4001 when on the mainline.

I assume it was the rear cab or the driver is very short. The CCTV monitor shows a view from the other end looking at Seaford or Seaford Meadows.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

When the reporter mentions about the old diesels train resuming, it's like he forgets to say when they are resuming.
nscaler69
I get the same impression every time I read an update on the DPTI website.

How's that level crossing due to open in August going?
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
Tens news story on the secret testing: http://ten.com.au/ten-news-adelaide.htm?vid=2650289246001.

When the reporter mentions about the old diesels train resuming, it's like he forgets to say when they are resuming.
nscaler69
Thanks for posting a link to the video, sometimes hard to find this stuff.

Anyone else notice two of the marker lights on the front of the cab flashing in ditch light mode ?
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Justapax.

I assume you are referring to Victoria St Goodwood LX.

I looked at the site Wednesday evening. Apart from the foot crossing the roadway crossing is sealed and appears complete.
The barriers and pedestrian fences have not been installed.
There are rag bolts showing for the boom gate post on the Goodwood Rd side but no evidence of any footings for the barriers on the western side.
The pedestrian crossing is sealed across both tracks but NO work has been done west of the ARTC site.

It looks like, surprise, surprise, the main hold up is signalling.

Ian
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
How can the testing be secret if there was a channel 10 news crew there?

They must have been tipped off.

Strange that the report came from Morphett Vale, too.    Was the news crew moved on?
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

How can the testing be secret if there was a channel 10 news crew there?

They must have been tipped off.

Strange that the report came from Morphett Vale, too.    Was the news crew moved on?
kipioneer

Railcar #4001 was going up and down the extension quite a few times at a slow speed so its very possible a 10 news crew member may have been in the area and spotted it. Either that or it did get tipped off.

Something I do like about the electric trains is the reddish tint the pantograph has.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Strange that the report came from Morphett Vale, too.    Was the news crew moved on?
"kipioneer"
I am not entirely convinced I know where Morphett Vale starts and ends, but I am pretty certain you couldn't see the train line from it. That's not so strange on reflection, just the way reporting is done these days...
  trainznbuses Train Controller

Location: Seacliff Park, SA
A couple of pics from yesterday.
Nothing on the big bridge or at Noarlunga unfortunately:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfyjugh8253leg2/IMGP3358.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zmo5itc8xv3jtlj/IMGP3354.JPG
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
Channel 10 used the word 'secret' because it makes the story more appealing to the audience.

As does the often (mis)used term 'exclusive'

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