Hotham Valley Railway - Comments, Q & A

 
  andrew1996 Train Controller

Location: Fremantle

In another thread someone posted the link for this news report: http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/man-20-killed-by-two-freight-trains-in-bibra-lake/story-e6frg13u-1226601938470
Ignoring the story and focusing on the picture, it looks like Pinjarra facing South, to the left there seems to be several WAGR cars, are these the AY's and AYE up from Pemberton already? There also seems to be a segment of Xa to the right on the "West Yard". Why would an Xa be there? OR, is this just an old photo?

Andrew

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  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner




In another thread someone posted the link for this news report: http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/man-20-killed-by-two-freight-trains-in-bibra-lake/story-e6frg13u-1226601938470
Ignoring the story and focusing on the picture, it looks like Pinjarra facing South, to the left there seems to be several WAGR cars, are these the AY's and AYE up from Pemberton already? There also seems to be a segment of Xa to the right on the "West Yard". Why would an Xa be there? OR, is this just an old photo?

Andrew

"andrew1996"


Old photo by the looks of it, the S class has been renumbered since the photo was taken.

  warienga Chief Train Controller

Location: Perth





In another thread someone posted the link for this news report: http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/man-20-killed-by-two-freight-trains-in-bibra-lake/story-e6frg13u-1226601938470
Ignoring the story and focusing on the picture, it looks like Pinjarra facing South, to the left there seems to be several WAGR cars, are these the AY's and AYE up from Pemberton already? There also seems to be a segment of Xa to the right on the "West Yard". Why would an Xa be there? OR, is this just an old photo?

Andrew

"andrew1996"


Old photo by the looks of it, the S class has been renumbered since the photo was taken.

"djukinX1016"


Yep, old photo - dating from when HVR were still using the old Pinjarra depot for loco storage and servicing I'd say. That'd be  XA 1401 visible. Those coaches are the HVR sleeping cars - I can see AZ's.

Cheers, Warienga

  Jarroo Chief Commissioner


A couple of questions raised on another newsgroup are:

Will Hotham Valley be able to run mainline tours in conjunction with the branch, with a greatly reduced number of coaches. The SAR coaches were purchased to fulfill a need .Granted passenger numbers on the branch are nothing like they used to be but that could change in 10-20+ years, as could demand for mainline tours. Are 13 off coaches enough together with the wooden bodied stock to cover mainline tours and the branch trains.

Also what will become off all the privately owned Pemberton stock etc when the owner of this stock departs the scene.

  crisfitz Chief Commissioner

Location: Enroute somewhere
Seen C1703 back at Flashbutt yard today. Must be another rail train run in the offing up the NSR.
  beechina Beginner

Anyone know if C 1703 is still out and about? Or have any info on movements
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
It ran back to Pinjarra on Friday.  It seemed only to be a backup loco for R1902 working the rail trains to Leighton.
  andrew1996 Train Controller
  beechina Beginner

First steam ranger went well today W920 and five coaches went down the hill with a full load and F40 got a run too coming back with the train from the loop both locos done well.
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
I was pleased to see oldW920 first steamer for the year;like a good old reliable grandfather.I can in my minds eye see it forlorn,greasy,unclean stuck on a side road at Collie depot in the early 70s after the big purge on WAGR steam.
It became the face of rebirth of Steam in WA.
John Arnold
  Hotham Valley Junior Train Controller

I was pleased to see oldW920 first steamer for the year;like a good old reliable grandfather.I can in my minds eye see it forlorn,greasy,unclean stuck on a side road at Collie depot in the early 70s after the big purge on WAGR steam.
It became the face of rebirth of Steam in WA.
John Arnold
jayrail

Interesting comparison "old" and "grandfather" like because over the long weekend's running some cancer (corrosion) in 920's internal steam delivery pipe resulted in a minor heamorage but was located by endescope (Rigid SeeSnake) during the following week and repaired by stendt (band-clamp) as the small perforation was just reachable from the steam dome. A regulator transplant was also undertaken due to poor opening of the old one.

W920 ran very well last Sunday following the attention it received.

Some photos will be posted on the HVR website news section in due course.

Regards,
Ian
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
Ian can you claim on Medicare?Good to know help was around. Good recovery is wished.
  crisfitz Chief Commissioner

Location: Enroute somewhere
Here's a few from Sunday Smile

Thanks to Ian and the HVTR team for a very enjoyable day. Special thanks to Vince Baker for his help - cheers mate!!

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  BHPDash8 Station Master

Two photos of W920 at Isandra Siding on the 16th June 2013.


  beechina Beginner

Noticed C1703 is out and about again saw it in flash butt midland today anyone have any ideas on its movements or why she is their.
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
Noticed C1703 is out and about again saw it in flash butt midland today anyone have any ideas on its movements or why she is their.
beechina
C1703 was called up last week to rescue R1902 and rail train from Mooliabeenie, came into Midland on Thursday, then ran one set out on Friday.


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  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton
That looks like the concrete sleeper set which was stabled at Mogumber for a while?
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
That looks like the concrete sleeper set which was stabled at Mogumber for a while?
P2017
That is the one, was stabled at Mooliabeenie.
  Bulbous Assistant Commissioner

Is that the set that was stabled at Coondle for a bit last week as well?
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
A question for a potential visitor to Western Australia.

What is the difference between the Steamranger and Forrest trains? And what advantage/disadvantage of each trip?

Thanks.
  andrew1996 Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
A question for a potential visitor to Western Australia.

What is the difference between the Steamranger and Forrest trains? And what advantage/disadvantage of each trip?

Thanks.
GeoffreyHansen
As far as I know, the Steam Ranger is (funnily enough) is hauled by a steam loco with fairly large steel cars, from Dwellingup, though some country side and bush, down the hill to Isandra Siding with a half an hour or so stop off (picnic type thing) and then back to Dwellingup. The Forrest Trains are hauled by a small diesel through the bush, in open top freight wagons that were converted to take passengers. The Forrest Train goes from Dwellingup out to Etmylin and back again.

http://www.hothamvalleyrailway.com.au/etmilyn_forest_railway.htm

http://www.hothamvalleyrailway.com.au/Dwellingup%20Rangers.htm
  Kafoopsy Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
What is the status of G123 at the moment?  Was it the sad looking steam engine I saw in Pinjarra as I passed by on the Australind?
  BHPDash8 Station Master

Yes that was G123. Hotham Valley is in the process of fixing her up. Can't wait to see her running again.

This is a photo I took last year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestrailphotography/8744404416/in/set-72157634723600053
  WAGR Chief Commissioner

Yes that was G123. Hotham Valley is in the process of fixing her up. Can't wait to see her running again.

This is a photo I took last year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestrailphotography/8744404416/in/set-72157634723600053
BHPDash8

I cant understand why HVTR have not released the problems with G123. It is no secret that its sister engine G233 located at SWRHC Boyanup requires works such as Replacement of a nest of i think 5 or 7 boiler stays have failed in the RH upper corner of the fire box, Smoke box needs patching, New fire bars, Brick arch etc and most probably other works as restoration continues. so what's the problems with 123. After all we/us rail enthusiasts are interested in the well being of our states rail heritage were ever it is located and like to keep up with whats happening with its operational capacity
  Hotham Valley Junior Train Controller

I cant understand why HVTR have not released the problems with G123. It is no secret that its sister engine G233 located at SWRHC Boyanup requires works such as Replacement of a nest of i think 5 or 7 boiler stays have failed in the RH upper corner of the fire box, Smoke box needs patching, New fire bars, Brick arch etc and most probably other works as restoration continues. so what's the problems with 123. After all we/us rail enthusiasts are interested in the well being of our states rail heritage were ever it is located and like to keep up with whats happening with its operational capacity
WAGR

Sorry but it never occurred to us that we had anything to "release".
There are no "problems" as such with G123 however it is a little 'aged' and is a bit 'loose' here & there, particularly in its axle boxs, but nothing that will stop it returning to some light service around Isandra and down to Alumina Jcn in due course as a bit of a 'play thing' for training and those interested in having some driver experience action.

A few small jobs have been carried out and there was a failed rolling ring on the engine vac cylinder which was renewed maybe 2 or more years ago sometime following the loco's return to Pinjarra. The ashpan has received a fair bit or repair attention. The boiler is in good condition really and has been maintained in 'survey' with annual inspections etc, even though it has not been steamed for some time now. There is one outstanding job to be done which is renewing its fire bars and we have been looking at some alternate, more user friendly designs.

G123 has not been any kind of priority simply due to not being required at Dwellingup since the Steam Ranger commenced departing from there. The human & financial resourses required for G123 need to come from what is spare.

I feel certain it will be operating next year.

Regards,
Ian Willis
HVR

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