And one of their reports may favour buses over trams "at first", sorry light rail (got to keep the PCB happy - NOT!)
Well, instead of cutting due to developer "influence", why not this, and that tram-trains sharing the tracks with trains continuing to Newcastle Station, maybe a bit slower, but speeded up elsewhere to make up for the slower speed.Cutting the line at Maitland? Are you sure that's what you mean?
I think Save Our Rail (SOR) supports something similar to that, but of course, we know what the developers are after. But I heard an interview where Tim Owen changed his mind again, and he mentioned something about cutting the line at Maitland. He mentioned something about he wants to get passenger trains off the freight lines. Sounds to me, he & his Greiner mate wants to close down ALL train services outside Sydney and/or Gosford.
Oh, and if you see the SOR website, you will see this notice here ([size=2]http://saveourrail.org.au/?p=648[/size] )
Oh yes, their is are videos of a heavy rail train going down a mall and street. Search for "Wexford Train".
See titles Wexford Train by jiltedpom, Intercity train passes through Wexford with no guard rails!! by Ryan Barker, and Wexford Quay New Train 2004 by shnookumlooks
Cutting the line at Maitland? Are you sure that's what you mean?NotebookMan, from the way Tim Owen spoke, he gave a suggestion of cutting it on the Newcastle side of Maitland, not as you have stated in the quote above.
Cutting services beyond Maitland, on the other hand, meaning Scone, Muswellbrook and Dungog (but not Telarah (perhaps if we're lucky)), is definitely a popular idea with ARTC. It is precisely those sectors where Cityrail (as it was) services conflict with coal and other freight trains.
The proposed State Environmental Planning Policy (Infrastructure) Amendment (Light Rail) 2013 (the draft SEPP) will amend the State Environmental Planning Policy (Infrastructure) 2007 (Infrastructure SEPP) to clarify planning pathways related to light rail by including light rail purposes within the definition of rail infrastructure facilities.In the link in the edit, their are three PDF links.
That's interesting NotebookMan.I can't find any hits on Google when I search for Tim Owen cutting anything at Maitland, which is one reason why I questioned the wording. I must say that the idea of retaining rail passenger services between Maitland and Scone/Dungog, but eliminating them between Maitland and [Woodville Junction plus whatever], seems a totally absurd use of the four track section. I would not be prepared to accuse any ratbag politician of such a thing without hard evidence of what was actually said.
NotebookMan, from the way Tim Owen spoke, he gave a suggestion of cutting it on the Newcastle side of Maitland, not as you have stated in the quote above.
Tim Owen mentioned something in the interview that he wants to get passenger trains off the freight lines, and then he went on to mention something about trying to make a decision of where to cut the rail line, and he brought up Maitland as an alternative for some reason.
Is there actually any "Malls" that have worked "
People simply do not want to park and walk half a kilometre to shop. They want to park outside the shop they want and walk 10 metres inside.
The only thing Malls have been good for is crime and emptying shops very very quickly.
I predict tomorrow, their will be an anti-rail & cut the rail line ASAP article/s in the so called Newcastle Herald. And it will focus on the property council of australia (deliberate non caps)
And one of their reports may favour buses over trams "at first", sorry light rail (got to keep the PCB happy - NOT!)
Here's an idea. Just leave things as they are. I magically just saved $40mil with that brilliant idea. I wonder what I can come up with next? Maybe dont sell Newcastle Port as well? I'm on a roll now!But, but, but, but, Showtime, I am one of "those" developers and we demand that the state government sell that land to us, as we want that rail land for ourselves, as it is valuable real estate with views such as this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34023326@N02/9443621326.
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