October 2013 Timetable

 
  darcyj Chief Train Controller

Hopefully the manager has been wrongly informed, however I have been advised NO booklets will be printed for the new SydneyTrains timetables, only apps and via 131500, Sydney Trains website etc.
Blackadder

Can't be done.  It might surprise but there are actually people out there without the access or capability of using those tools.

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  qak Beginner

Location: Sydney
Can't be done.  It might surprise but there are actually people out there without the access or capability of using those tools.
darcyj
Hmmm, yes I agree that there are people in that situation.  
However, last time I tried to get a printed timetable (more than couple of years ago!) they were out of stock anyway.
So those without internet & phone access were still not able to get the timetable.
  smithagain Junior Train Controller

Hopefully the manager has been wrongly informed, however I have been advised NO booklets will be printed for the new SydneyTrains timetables, only apps and via 131500, Sydney Trains website etc.
Blackadder

According to Sydneytrains website
"Copies can also be picked up from Sydney Trains or NSW TrainLink stations from Monday 23rd September."


If they had no paper copies available Gladys would never hear the end of it . Wink
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
Just done a bit of further digging, and a limited number of timetables will be available on request only from the 23/9 until stocks run out, then more coming in the week of October 13-19.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
I will examine it later tonight, but it appears that the Bankstown line is now indeed self-feeding.
  Hendikins Junior Train Controller

Location: I'm on ur trainz, announcin' ur stationz!
I will examine it later tonight, but it appears that the Bankstown line is now indeed self-feeding.
Watson374
Largely but not entirely.
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
I've noticed that they have labelled the " the fish" and " the chips" on the timetable now Laughing. Those services have also fewer stops, not stopping at: Zig Zag, Bullaburra, Lawson, Woodford, Linden, Faulconbridge, Valley Heights, Warrimoo and Lapstone. The Bathurst bullet no longer stops at Bell as well.
  HMC1989 Chief Commissioner

Location: Behind a desk.
From Blackadders post, T99 and T121 have large exterior advertising decals between the top and bottom windows on all cars. Currently operating on NS line.
thefatcontroller

A smaller version decal arrived this afternoon and was applied to T67 K69 and K64 at HMC.
  willb2107 Station Staff

Can someone explain two things:

How many services a day (or a week) go through Gordon from the Central Coast/Newcastle? The map makes it look like trains from Newcastle can go through North Sydney.

Secondly, what happened to Homebush? Why is it a little stub now?
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Has anyone actually seen the new timetable?  Not the draft leaked a few months ago, but the actual new timetable?  

Have any of you staffers been issued with it?

It seems to me the press release documents at the launch played very loosely with the truth in a lot of their claims (assuming the Final Draft "released" a few months ago is largely right), but by not publishing the whole timetable no-one can fact check it.
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Can someone explain two things:

How many services a day (or a week) go through Gordon from the Central Coast/Newcastle? The map makes it look like trains from Newcastle can go through North Sydney.

Secondly, what happened to Homebush? Why is it a little stub now?
willb2107
There are 6 a day that go via gordon in the morning peak and 6 in the evening peak.

Since the construction of the Homebush turnback, Inner West Line trains now terminate at Homebush.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Has anyone actually seen the new timetable?  Not the draft leaked a few months ago, but the actual new timetable?  

Have any of you staffers been issued with it?

It seems to me the press release documents at the launch played very loosely with the truth in a lot of their claims (assuming the Final Draft "released" a few months ago is largely right), but by not publishing the whole timetable no-one can fact check it.
"djf01"
You may download PDF copies of all the timetables HERE.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

What Idiots would introduce a completely new timetable without changing connecting bus times? EG: STA's 352 Belmont Depot to Morisset & Rover's 163 Morisset to Cessnock & return, especially put on for train passengers? Even the Toronto TrainBus times haven't changed.

Connecting bus & train time example:
352 connecting bus arrives Morisset at 8:30am. The connecting train due to leaving later is timed for get this 08:20am, 10 minutes BEFORE the connecting bus is due to arrive. The next train will now leave Morisset at 9:03am!

That is just one of many examples.

Has anyone actually seen the new timetable?  Not the draft leaked a few months ago, but the actual new timetable?  

Have any of you staffers been issued with it?
djf01
You may download PDF copies of all the timetables HERE.
Watson374
Watson, I think he means have any staffers been issued with the SWTT.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
What Idiots would introduce a completely new timetable without changing connecting bus times? EG: STA's 352 Belmont Depot to Morisset & Rover's 163 Morisset to Cessnock & return, especially put on for train passengers? Even the Toronto TrainBus times haven't changed.
"Newcastle Express"
Don't worry, out west timetables are changing to reflect the new timetable but will be launched too early - at the start of the new bus contracts, which no longer sync to the timetable launch. As such, buses will not connect.

Watson, I think he means have any staffers been issued with the SWTT.
"Newcastle Express"
I think he means both.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

You may download PDF copies of all the timetables HERE.
Watson374
Thanks for that, just what I was looking for.

I got quite upset for a second when I read the brochure about the Southern Highlands line and the "hourly clockface off peak service" and then checking out that silly newtimetable.com.au website which doesn't/didn't show all highlands services.  I put 2 and 2 together to come up with 22 by concluding they'd scrapped all but the earliest AM and latest PM "CityRail" service south of Mossy.
  Hendikins Junior Train Controller

Location: I'm on ur trainz, announcin' ur stationz!
Watson, I think he means have any staffers been issued with the SWTT.
Newcastle Express
The SWTT is available on the intranet in the usual location.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Hopefully the manager has been wrongly informed, however I have been advised NO booklets will be printed for the new SydneyTrains timetables, only apps and via 131500, Sydney Trains website etc.
"Blackadder"

It's Bull, there will most definitely be printed timetables available for customers to pick up from stations from next week. Although supply will be very limited.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

All the NSW government websites are down, including the parliament site, all NSW transport sites operated by the government, 131500.info, and also affecting John Holland site as well, and is also affecting the Herald, and some pages of the SMH. Not affecting ARTC site though.

Been down for around an hour.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
All the NSW government websites are down, including the parliament site, all NSW transport sites operated by the government, 131500.info, and also affecting John Holland site as well, and is also affecting the Herald, and some pages of the SMH. Not affecting ARTC site though.

Been down for around an hour.
"Newcastle Express"

They seem to be fine now.
  clrks Locomotive Fireman

As far as Lidcombe is concerned, the new timetable is really not ideal for people who travel from the Bankstown Line to stations served only on the Inner West Line. It's also not just that, because there's also some people who want to change to the Northern Line at Strathfield.

With the new timetable, the line has been cut at Lidcombe but despite Lidcombe now becoming an even more important interchange than it already was (as the interchange point between trains towards the Auburn direction, Bankstown Line and Olympic Park Line previously) there has been no recognition of that at all it seems.

The full train load at Lidcombe that would have been on the Bankstown Line service now needs to get off and change trains to continue their journey. However, there doesn't seem to have been any increase in services to/from Strathfield which would be necessary, so those people intending to travel to the Inner West Line stations or to the Northern Line can have a more convenient interchange.

Seeing as there will be less services now between Lidcombe and Strathfield during peak hour with the loss of the Bankstown Line/Inner West Line services, and the need for everyone on the Bankstown Line train to get off and change trains to continue their journey, there's going to probably be some serious congestion at Lidcombe.

Both before and after the new timetable, only 4 trains per hour one way during peak on the Western Line stop at Lidcombe.

With approximately 20 trains per hour on the Western Line passing through the Lidcombe location one way in peak, I think they should have put on some of the slower patterns to stop at Lidcombe, maybe another 4 trains per hour to bring the total to 8. This combined with the South Line would probably be better.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Coming from campbelltown, I'm one of thewinners this time around. The 7:00 tp 7:17am hole has been filled and with the later express services, faster home times. I've been wondering how long it would take to realise that even walking out the office door at 5pm on the dot means that you're still catching trains at 5:30 or later. The crowds at museum/St james don't star tapering off until well past 6:30.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Interesting that there are 2 week day morning peak hour arrivals and departures from East Hills, and they are express services.
Good use of the infrastructure and gives East Hills & Panania patrons a good service with seating.
  V-Setcommuter Locomotive Fireman

Location: Blue Mountains
It's Bull, there will most definitely be printed timetables available for customers to pick up from stations from next week. Although supply will be very limited.
Aurora8
There are definitely printed timetables as our station manager this morning said to we regulars on our station that "I am not supposed to give you these until Monday, but here have a new timetable". He had a box full of them in the station office.
  qak Beginner

Location: Sydney
One of my staff members asked for a new timetable yesterday and they gave her the 2010 version! She was complaining about how the trains were only 30 mins apart.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
That sounds like the last Federal election. I'm was an OIC for a reasonable polling booth. They gave me two copies of the Federal Election procedures rulebook - both for the 2010 election... Rolling Eyes

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