don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
...or the random completely free trips.  I still don't understand how I've been getting these, I only wish that I could work out what the glitch is.

I might try Mickey on V/Line tomorrow just to see what happens.  Hopefully it's free or next to nothing.

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  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Don Dunstan, the same 2 hour rule that applies to Metro travel applies to V/Line IF you use Myki.
From when you first touch on, you have 2 hours from the next hour if you want a free return trip home. As an example, you touch on at Geelong at 9.20 am in time for for the 9.28am departure to Southern Cross, where you touch off at 10.36am. Your 2 hours starts at 10am, so you have until 12pm to touch on again for your return trip, which is great if you know your timetable, and only need to be at your destination for a short time.

The other quirk that may be giving you freebies is if you travel cross country (for example Ballarat to Geelong, or Seymour to Traralgon). Myki works on zones, not distances, so you only pay for the number of zones you travel in, not how far you travel. You only need to read my recent posts on my experience last Sunday to see where this happened, where Myki charged me $11 for a Geelong-Malmsbury (zones 1-7) return concession off peak fare, had I bought a ticket at the Geelong booking office, it would have cost me in the order of $28. And I wouldn't have had the benefit of an off peak fare either Confused
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
XXXXlbear: Okay, now I'm starting to understand why the free trips work.  But it seems very strange to me that they would reward people for short return trips in that way - oh well, who am I to question the wisdom of Mickey.  And traveling across one zone in that way; it's illogical that you wouldn't have to pay at all for doing that and as Gwiwer said a few pages back, it's probably the really complicated architecture that's to blame.  But again - who am I to question it when you get a free trip.
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
Unfortunately the Myki boffins aren't like the pollies - at least we can get rid of politicians at an election.
Valvegear
As previously established: the unavailability of short-term tickets is a political decision, not a technical one.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
XXXXlbear: Okay, now I'm starting to understand why the free trips work.  But it seems very strange to me that they would reward people for short return trips in that way - oh well, who am I to question the wisdom of Mickey.  And traveling across one zone in that way; it's illogical that you wouldn't have to pay at all for doing that and as Gwiwer said a few pages back, it's probably the really complicated architecture that's to blame.  But again - who am I to question it when you get a free trip.
don_dunstan

Exactly.
I know of people who have had a devil of a time with Myki, and absolutely hate the system, but it has worked almost too perfectly for me-so much so that I have pretty much stopped complaining about its bad points (such as lack of short term tickets), especially when I seem to come across these (legitimate) complimentary train rides.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
As previously established: the unavailability of short-term tickets is a political decision, not a technical one.
"jb17kx"

We are all perfectly well aware of that, my dear fellow. Who do you think makes the political decisions?  Politicians? No way. Watch "Yes Minister"; it's not a comedy, it's a documentary. Politicians come and go, bureaucrats tell whoever is in power that such-and-such system is in place, and that takes care of that. As I have said before, I'd love to see Ministers with enough balls to tell the bureaucrats to get off their collective backsides and get a day ticket working - now!  Then, tell them that if  it's not working perfectly in six months, buy the Age and start looking at the Sits Vac.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Okay, I used Myki on V/Line for the first time ever and it worked; it was a few dollars less than the normal cash price for a ticket (but not free as I was hoping).  Bloody Mickey, why didn't he give me a free trip like I wanted... now I hate him again!