New locos at UGL

 
  2LaGrange Train Controller

AC Inverters on C43/44s are in cabinets behind cab on both sides.There are 6 small inverters 1 for each traction motor where as GT46s only have 2 large inverters 1 per bogie.

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  M636C Minister for Railways

They were put back on when they finished painting them. They are white...

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M636C

I can't explain this but CF4408 was in the same location as seen in the link to the photo of CF4407 posted earlier when CF 4408 was seen on Saturday afternoon, and the handrails had been taken off again...

I took photos on both occasions, so I'm not just confused.

M636C
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
PH37 Has a curved hood roof. Whats the purpose of that?
  M636C Minister for Railways

PH37 Has a curved hood roof. Whats the purpose of that?
DBclass

It looks like they have used the UK PH37 hood drawings which need to fit a much smaller loading gauge.

M636C
  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
It looks like they have used the UK PH37 hood drawings which need to fit a much smaller loading gauge.

M636C
"M636C"


And yet the cab is full width wth just a mansard roof ...
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Yup, 'nother six before the end of January. Brings the total to 17 then that's it.
Typhon

Do these next six 93s have the ECP hardware on them ?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

And yet the cab is full width wth just a mansard roof ...
rhino
They are only prototypes/demos, I guess that if they are successful and result in UGL receiving an order, UGL can then afford to do the detailed design work to produce an "Australian" profile loco. Why reinvent the wheel?

At least they have not used the UK cab, which is pig ugly to comply with UK/European nanny state regulation
  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
Are the PH class being built for any specific purpose? Any specs available?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Are the PH class being built for any specific purpose? Any specs available?
"rhino"


3700hp 120-tonnes, being built as demonstrators to compete with the EDI GT42CU-ACe in the narrow gauge market, they will most likely test in Queensland with Aurizon and PN initially...if things haven't change since they were first announced.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Are the PH class being built for any specific purpose? Any specs available?
rhino
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerHaul_%28locomotive%29
  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
Thanks for that JMT. So are these being built here for Freightliner, PN, GWA, QR, CFCLA? I imagine they're only being built because someone has put in an order?
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
There is no order, as has been said already (even on this page) the PHs being built are demonstators that will test with Aurizon and PN and whoever else wants to try them in an effort to gain orders.
  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
There is no order, as has been said already (even on this page) the PHs being built are demonstators that will test with Aurizon and PN and whoever else wants to try them in an effort to gain orders.
"GT46C-ACe"



Oops, missed that post, apologies
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
And yet the cab is full width wth just a mansard roof ...
rhino

I didnt get that either. So its not loading gauge.

The only thing I can think of is if the part we see, is either the cab end or the hood end, and what we cant see is some other feature like radiators etc requiring the curved roof, but without having a curved roof along its entire length. The handrails on the end dont look locomotive like, making me think there is something else going on the chassis and its a temporary hand rail. Or are these locos so good they dont need a full length hood?

I cant see the point of a curved roof if in fact it is all fully curved. They built the QR 2800 class with a normal roof. Maybe a throw back to English Electric days lol.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Going by the artist's drawing on the net I'm sure I was looking at the front of the unit. The handrail is only a temporary one as fitted to the C44 while under construction. The odd shaped steelwork in front of the railing seems to be the crash protection that's welded to the frame in front of the cab. The pic below shows how the hood profile compares to the cab and vestibule.



I must say that mansard is very steep, much more than the 2800.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Could be their ugliest loco yet lol. I wish they would put a corner radius on all their hoods like EDI. The sharp edges do nothing at all for me. All business like.
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Could be their ugliest loco yet lol. I wish they would put a corner radius on all their hoods like EDI. The sharp edges do nothing at all for me. All business like.
"DBclass"


Exactly, they are not in the business of making units that appeal to foamers but as you said business like as that is the driving factor function not looks.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Business is good, but having some pride is ok too I think. Id like to see a study into employee satisfaction. Ie, two truck companies, one washes the trucks every week, one never unless they have to. Id be surprised if the ones that get washed never have employees who are overall more happy and enthusiastic about work then the other one. Having pride in what you do is real important, if you want employees who give a toss in my opinion. But then UGL are still building trains and EDI arent. Hmm. Must say im torn here.
  M636C Minister for Railways

PH37 under construction at UGL, Broadmeadow.





EFB5800
The angular section projecting from the hood side looks like the section on a class 70 just forward of the radiator.

If so we are looking at the rear of the unit without the radiators yet fitted.

The space at the end of the unit would be filled with the dynamic brakes which are behind the radiator on a class 70.

M636C
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
M636, that panel mounted in front of the temp railing seems to match the shape of the panel on the front of the plywood mock up-



Also the cab is facing the towards us beside the unit, which makes sense, as a modeller, I sit all subassemblies of a model under construction in line on the bench, to make checking of fit easier, and reduce simple mirror image mistakes. Also, UGL seems to build all their units facing this way in the shop, these days at least. That unit beside it facing the other way, is a 92 in for repair. These tend to end up facing either way, I guess it doesn't matter for that sort of work.
That empty bit of frame seemed rather long to my eye, although this doesn't show up in a photo.

Cheers, Matt.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Also, I forgot to mention, I saw CF4409 and 10 leading 03 on a Hunter coalie today. They appear to have replaced 01 and 02 on an NHEH set
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
CF4401 and CF4402 are on coal duties, seen yesterday with CF4404. CF4409 and CF4410 are with a 92, 9212 or 9213 on coal duties.
No idea what is running the NHEH set at the moment.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
The first two 93's of the current order were out test running last week. There was a C44 frame heading through Hexham on a truck last Thursday, and another on Monday of this week. It's highly unlikely that there were only two other frames on the production line at Broadmeadow. So are there more C44's to follow after the last 93?
  ed31880 Train Controller

any news on the CRL's in aurizon colours?
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
So are there more C44's to follow after the last 93?
EFB5800

Couple more 93s on order for a January delivery.

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