General Cityrail Network Observations

 
  mboi84 Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Major delays on the inner west, Bankstown and south line services as a millennium train is requiring mechanical repairs. Two services literally stuck behind it and pax don't seem happy sadly. Drivers and guards just stuck looking out their doors as my train went past

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  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Major delays on the inner west, Bankstown and south line services as a millennium train is requiring mechanical repairs. Two services literally stuck behind it and pax don't seem happy sadly. Drivers and guards just stuck looking out their doors as my train went past
"mboi84"
"Train requiring mechanical repairs at Burwood," and I'd take it to be on the Locals.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Not quite sure where to ask this question, so here will do Smile

On a shutdown weekend and say that trains operate between Wolli Creek and Central, where do the trains cross over from the down to up? Is there a set of crossovers somewhere just on the city side of the wolli creek platforms, or do they run out somewhere around Turella to cross over?
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

Why did a v set skip strathfield at 1810 with many passengers in it?
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
On a shutdown weekend and say that trains operate between Wolli Creek and Central, where do the trains cross over from the down to up? Is there a set of crossovers somewhere just on the city side of the wolli creek platforms, or do they run out somewhere around Turella to cross over?
"jcouch"
I believe they tip out at Wolli Creek on the down Airport platform, then proceed empty to Turella on the down East Hills Local. The train is then reversed out of Turella, immediately crossing at the City end of Turella from the down to the up East Hills Local. The train then runs empty to Wolli Creek on the up Airport platform, and then commences service to Central.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Not quite sure where to ask this question, so here will do Smile

On a shutdown weekend and say that trains operate between Wolli Creek and Central, where do the trains cross over from the down to up? Is there a set of crossovers somewhere just on the city side of the wolli creek platforms, or do they run out somewhere around Turella to cross over?
"jcouch"

I believe they tip out at Wolli Creek on the down Airport platform, then proceed empty to Turella on the down East Hills Local. The train is then reversed out of Turella, immediately crossing at the City end of Turella from the down to the up East Hills Local. The train then runs empty to Wolli Creek on the up Airport platform, and then commences service to Central.
"Watson374"

Watson has it. They turn round at Turrella.
  Nathan1987 Chief Commissioner

Location: Mt Warrigal N.S.W
T56/T66 are now Mortdale sets T51/T52, also T84/T87 are now T53/T54.
  vdan Train Controller

Why did a v set skip strathfield at 1810 with many passengers in it?
Silver S Set
Think they're so special, they can skip Strathfield, eh? We'll show them come 20 October!

(It was likely one of the Blue Mountains services that don't stop at Strathfield per the current timetable).
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

Think they're so special, they can skip Strathfield, eh? We'll show them come 20 October!

(It was likely one of the Blue Mountains services that don't stop at Strathfield per the current timetable).
vdan
I thought all do except the bathurst bullet.
Thanks
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
I thought all do except the bathurst bullet.
Thanks
Silver S Set
Incorrect, the 17:23 Central-Lithgow, 17:36 North Sydney-Springwood and 17:55 Central-Bathurst do not stop at Strathfield.
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
Incorrect, the 17:23 Central-Lithgow, 17:36 North Sydney-Springwood and 17:55 Central-Bathurst do not stop at Strathfield.
bowralcommuter

However none of those timinings match up to the reported time, and only the Central-Lithgow is a V-set Wink
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Some sort of major trackwork happening up,around Springwood this weekend. Went for a drive up that way and spotted 6 or 7 ballast trains all stacked together, all pointed city-bound and several trackword machines. Mixture of SSR and CCFL locos. You name it, it was there it seemed like. Wasn't able to catch the wagon designations, but some big hopper wagons (look like wheat style) and some smaller, shallow-sided box wagons. All had NSW transport logos on them tha tI could see.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Some sort of major trackwork happening up,around Springwood this weekend. Went for a drive up that way and spotted 6 or 7 ballast trains all stacked together, all pointed city-bound and several trackword machines. Mixture of SSR and CCFL locos. You name it, it was there it seemed like. Wasn't able to catch the wagon designations, but some big hopper wagons (look like wheat style) and some smaller, shallow-sided box wagons. All had NSW transport logos on them tha tI could see.
jcouch
Doh, no trains west of Blacktown! Complete shutdown, Indian via Coota and worksites spread all along the mountains. The trains are either ballast trains with new ballast or spoil trains, which take away the old ballast and mud.
  darcyj Chief Train Controller

Watson has it. They turn round at Turrella.
Aurora8

So the question is, why can the terminus not be Turrella?  Almost no passengers would stay on the train to there, so cleaning out the train is a shorter process than at Wolli Creek.
  FullSeries Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
So the question is, why can the terminus not be Turrella?  Almost no passengers would stay on the train to there, so cleaning out the train is a shorter process than at Wolli Creek.
darcyj
You don't actually clean the train out. You just inform the pax of the situation and let them decide.
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

B61 I think and many other SSR locos were at chullora yesterday. Were they just stored there or were  they under maintenance. What maintenance does chullora workshops no do?
  Kamz Assistant Commissioner

So the question is, why can the terminus not be Turrella?  Almost no passengers would stay on the train to there, so cleaning out the train is a shorter process than at Wolli Creek.
darcyj
I don't know what you mean by cleaning out the train, but cleaners probably do board the trains at Wolli Creek and do cleaning while to goes to Turrella and back.

Also Turrella is not staffed on weekends, not accessible and doesn't have a decent bus interchange. IMO Better to force everyone off at Wolli Creek rather than have people end up at Turrella waiting for buses.

I remember recent nightly trackwork between Rhodes and Hornsby. Trains from the city would terminate at Rhodes, however buses would start from Strathfield. The buses were the normal trackwork routes

Strathfield express to Hornsby
Strathfield all to West Ryde
Strathfield, West Ryde, Eastwood, Epping all to Hornsby

Anyone travelling beyond Rhodes should have got off at Strathfield for a bus, however of course some people ended up at Rhodes. That meant a wait at Rhodes and West Ryde because the bus connections were for the  Strathfield train arrival.

The point of all this is, unless there is going to be excellent visual and verbal communication (which is not possible - Guards can't display anything useful on IDIs), better to terminate the train at a major interchange and dump everyone off to waiting buses.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
You don't actually clean the train out. You just inform the pax of the situation and let them decide.
FullSeries
Presentation guys do of garbage. Smile
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Wolli Creek has interchange facilities to the Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line. Turella has nothing. Admittedly, Wolli Creek has little in the way of buses, which are still sent to Tempe.
  darcyj Chief Train Controller

I don't know what you mean by cleaning out the train, but cleaners probably do board the trains at Wolli Creek and do cleaning while to goes to Turrella and back.

Also Turrella is not staffed on weekends, not accessible and doesn't have a decent bus interchange. IMO Better to force everyone off at Wolli Creek rather than have people end up at Turrella waiting for buses.
Kamz
I mean, cleaning the people out of the train.

Big bonking ballookas that Turrella lacks those facilities - I'm only talking about terminating and turning the train there.  Clear and precise announcements would advise the passengers that ANYONE going ANYWHERE (except to Turrella itself) should change at Wolli Creek.  Now that is what is done at present, except that the train has to be checked for passengers whilst standing at the platform at WC.  IMHO that job is better done at a platform where there are no people threatening to board.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Big bonking ballookas that Turrella lacks those facilities - I'm only talking about terminating and turning the train there.
"darcyj"
That is precisely what they do.
  bjwh86 Chief Train Controller

Hi all
Some runs today that are unusual, cross sector 2 and 3 runs where a service does a western line service from Blacktown to the City Circle and then performing an Airport Line service to Revesby.

Homebush turnback also seeing abit of use aswell, with services starting and terminating there and performing Inner west line to city circle then to Macarthur via Sydenham and East Hills.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Some runs today that are unusual, cross sector 2 and 3 runs where a service does a western line service from Blacktown to the City Circle and then performing an Airport Line service to Revesby.
bjwh86
Due to the Fleet Review, no doubt
  Sir S Set Station Staff

This afternoon's 4:41pm (Chatswood time) service to Richmond was S sets S122/S130. This service is usually an A set. Would the trackwork between Richmond and Schofields mean that there was no A set available (stabled at RCD)?
  Sir S Set Station Staff

This afternoon's 4:41pm (Chatswood time) service to Richmond was S sets S122/S130. This service is usually an A set. Would the trackwork between Richmond and Schofields mean that there was no A set available (stabled at RCD)?

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