Noarlunga Line Shutdown

 
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
So 1st October is the official Grand Reopening day for the Noarlunga Line?
Scooter_Guy
The Victoria Street crossing I would think.

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  dvdplaza Chief Train Controller

Went through the Brighton Rd crossing on Saturday and no sparks up.

Went through again on Sunday and the feed (or whatever you call it) was installed along the masts.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

New signals/gantries are now popping up over the line latest one I noticed was at Goodwood station and they are beginning to install the holdings for the cantilever arms from Brighton to Oaklands. Hove, Warradale and Oaklands appear to be next in the wiring fireline expecting to see these 3 areas with wiring up within the next month
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Guess what Ian, it's been changed again!!

Signs now read openning 1st October
Lots of HiVis vests, along with unmarked 4WD's parking where that please(sure sign of the fat cats) around the crossing just after noon.
"me"

So 1st October is the official Grand Reopening day for the Noarlunga Line?
"Scooter_Guy"


Ryan, if you read the few posts preceeding the one of mine you quoted, you'll see we were refering to the re-opening of the Victoria Street level crossing to road users
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been providing photos and information on the rebuilding from a near crippled state to the brand spanking new system you will have.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been providing photos and information on the rebuilding from a near crippled state to the brand spanking new system you will have.
Black Hoppers
Well we hope it is brand spanking new system, but this is Adelaide Metro we are talking about here, so don't hold your breath. LaughingLaughing
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Bringing it forward into the 20th century might be more than enough change to deal with at one time.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Reading postings here is quite amusing.

On one hand you have the bright eyed optimists who see the job as only a month away.

On the other some seasoned old veterans, who have seen it all before and can remember the days when keeping trains running was important, a matter of professional honour. Work was done in the period 0100 to 1100 on Sunday morning. We remember weed free clean ballast, clear cesses and regular and routine repacking. For us this present process has been abysmal and an extremely poor reflection on a profession of which some of us are still active members. We look at the chaotic rate of progress of the works*, the late starting of the resignalling and now the never-never delivery of the EMUs and scratch our collective heads.

*I exclude the Goodwood Underpass from that description, the way it has been done is exemplary in my observation, Victoria St crossing signals being an exception and most likely out of the control of that project.

We had a 20th century railway until the powers that should have been let it rot. Now they want a pat on the back for bringing it back to only slightly better than we had before. The only pat they deserve is the excuses they have been trying to foist on the public, a load of cow pats.

I feel better now! Very Happy

Ian
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

First of the overhead wiring is now being put up through Oaklands station
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been providing photos and information on the rebuilding from a near crippled state to the brand spanking new system you will have.
Black Hoppers
Certainly we will have one brand spanking new line, plus a short electrified branch which runs out of steam before its natural destination, due to lack of funding.
But all the rest of the system will still be diesel operated for the foreseeable future
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Certainly we will have one brand spanking new line, plus a short electrified branch which runs out of steam before its natural destination, due to lack of funding.
But all the rest of the system will still be diesel operated for the foreseeable future
1S47
There will be immense pressure from the public to complete the rest of the system, as there was in Perth with the rehabilitation of the Midland-Fremantle line in the early 1990's.  Once they see how well it operates they'll want electric trains on their line too; it's just a shame that they don't have through-operation in Adelaide as they do in Perth (as discussed at length on another thread), it would be even more efficient that way.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

There will be immense pressure from the public to complete the rest of the system, …
"don_dunstan"
I highly doubt it. The majority of the people who do actually return to using the trains will only notice that the new trains are red instead of yellow and a bit quieter, not something that's worth three hours a day on overcrowded hand-me-down buses for a year. Electrification of other lines in the near future is doomed to be perceived as a minor incremental improvement, not a revolutionary change, which will have people more likely to ask "why can't we just get better diesel trains?"

It is going to take a major public relations effort over the next few years to repair the damage of the project failures - the line and trains being delivered 3-6 months late is a great way to get people wondering what else won't be right - and start to win back the people who have switched away from public transport over the last five years. A handful of shiny trains is not going to achieve that, not when public transport of all three types is regularly late (nobody takes the official in-house figures seriously these days, an independent passenger watchdog is required) and ticket prices have been running out of control to the point that there is no longer a competitive trade-off between the better service of a car and the financial savings of public transport.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I highly doubt it.
justapassenger
We'll just have to wait and see on that one.

At the risk of sounding demanding, I was wondering if there were any more pictures of the catenary creeping northwards from Brighton?  As a former resident and user of the line I've been finding these pictures really fascinating.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Saw lots of workers at the Victoria Street level crossing today. Looked to me the crossing reopened this afternoon because I was on my way to Blackwood in the morning and the workers still had their vehicles blocking access to the crossing but coming back I saw a car at the crossing waiting to get across. They had workers there monitoring the crossing for the day to make sure the boom gates were all working correctly. So it looks like the crossing is now finally reopened
  Scooter_Guy Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA. Suburb: Redwood Park
Saw lots of workers at the Victoria Street level crossing today. Looked to me the crossing reopened this afternoon because I was on my way to Blackwood in the morning and the workers still had their vehicles blocking access to the crossing but coming back I saw a car at the crossing waiting to get across. They had workers there monitoring the crossing for the day to make sure the boom gates were all working correctly. So it looks like the crossing is now finally reopened
Milkomeda
I'll head there on either this Thursday/Friday for pics!
  Tallboy-Lemond Station Master

Saw lots of workers at the Victoria Street level crossing today. Looked to me the crossing reopened this afternoon because I was on my way to Blackwood in the morning and the workers still had their vehicles blocking access to the crossing but coming back I saw a car at the crossing waiting to get across. They had workers there monitoring the crossing for the day to make sure the boom gates were all working correctly. So it looks like the crossing is now finally reopened
"Milkomeda"


Yes Victoria street is open. there was even a ribbon cutting ceremony, with the guy who lives on the corner doing the honors!!
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I guess the "big fella" did the honours.

It wasn't open at about 1315 when I wanted to take a short cut to the Goodwood post office but I have since driven over the crossing twice.

Still three blokes there tonight with orange vests, how long will they be there?

BTW, the Keswick Bridge pedestrian underpass seems to have been taken out.

Regards
Ian
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Still three blokes there tonight with orange vests, how long will they be there?
"steam4ian"
Colin Maher from the department (an unusually helpful communicator by their standards) says the pedestrian crossing will be manned until the automatic gates come into service.
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
Tom Koutsantonis posted in Noarlunga Line Commuters 2013

Tom Koutsantonis 2 October 07:30
During meetings with commuters last week, Derek & Sarah last week, I asked what we could do to further assist commuters until rail services return.

As s result we will now be introducing free shuttle services during weekday peak periods from Tuesday, 8 October for an initial one-month trial to gauge demand.

I acknowledge that delays to the return of services due to the challenge of integrating signalling systems is frustrating but our DPTI engineers are working hard to resolve the issue

Free shuttle services will run between Hove, Warradale and Oaklands and return about every 15 minutes during peak periods.

A free express coach service will also be introduced between Seaford Shopping Centre to Noarlunga in the morning and afternoon peak periods during weekdays only.

Three services will operate from Seaford to Noarlunga in the morning peak period at 6.00 am, 6.40 am and 7.20 am and three services will operate from Noarlunga to Seaford in the afternoon peak period at 5.20 pm, 6.00 pm and 6.40 pm.

Passengers will then be able to transfer to and from substitute services to and from the city.

Signs for the services will be displayed at Oaklands, Noarlunga and Seaford (stop 85) and flyers will be handed out at Noarlunga and Oaklands Interchanges to advise commuters.

I've been monitoring posts on FB and have noticed some other issues we made need to resolve. I will have further discussions on Friday with representatives and see what more we can do. Nearly there!

Last night we re-opened Victoria St at the Goodwood Junction. A major step forward for the resumption of services from Noarlunga.
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
Rode across Victora St xing this morning while being watched carefully by 9 people standing around in hi-vis.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Nine people, that's funny!  Is there catenary over Victoria street yet?  I'm guessing 'yes'.
  nm39 Chief Commissioner

Location: By a road taking pictures
Nine people, that's funny!  Is there catenary over Victoria street yet?  I'm guessing 'yes'.
don_dunstan

there is no requirement for catenary over Victoria Street as the belair Line will not be Electrified. However the catenary is still not installed under Victoria Streeet.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

And....

Let there be light
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2701/yi7v.jpg

If you look carefully you can also see the first of the overhead wires up.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
there is no requirement for catenary over Victoria Street as the belair Line will not be Electrified. However the catenary is still not installed under Victoria Streeet.
nm39
Okay, it wasn't obvious from the DPTI photos that the line actually dives under but now it makes sense to me.  Excuse my ignorance, it's been over a decade since I lived in the area.

If you look carefully you can also see the first of the overhead wires up.
milkomeda
Thanks for this, that looks like Oaklands station, would that be right?  I also saw the renders for the Oaklands overpass station and that looks really good, I'm guessing there's no money for that at the moment though.  Maybe they could ask Westfield to kick in money for it... they could try anyway.

The DPTI website also says they're "very close to completion" and implies the re-opening of the diesel service is immanent... Hmm!
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Yes it is and where on the DPTI site does it say its near completion? Because as far as I can tell they look like they are only about a third of the way through signalling works

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