Red Cliffs to Red Cliffs Pumps Narrow Railway

 
  vinelander Junior Train Controller

Unfortunately I'm unable to get to Red Cliffs to visit the tourist railway and learn more of this little-known line. Is there a reference that someone can point me in the direction of?
I believe that the line was used to cart coal to the pumps from the railway yards on the down end of the station yards. It must have been a busy line as the pumps were going 24/7.
As a young boy I once remember going to the SEC works beside the pumps and seeing what was probably a battery powered locomotive which could have been used to drag a number of hoppers that were still there along short section of line on top of the levie bank. This was probably around 1963.

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Do/Did these pumps use a former N Class loco boiler ?
  CAP_gauge Junior Train Controller

Unfortunately I'm unable to get to Red Cliffs to visit the tourist railway and learn more of this little-known line. Is there a reference that someone can point me in the direction of?
I believe that the line was used to cart coal to the pumps from the railway yards on the down end of the station yards. It must have been a busy line as the pumps were going 24/7.
As a young boy I once remember going to the SEC works beside the pumps and seeing what was probably a battery powered locomotive which could have been used to drag a number of hoppers that were still there along short section of line on top of the levie bank. This was probably around 1963.
vinelander
Unfortunately I cannot find anything that has been published on the tramway to the pumping station. The following, from the Heritage & Tourist section of "Light Railways" No.144 gives some information on the motive power used:

"A visit to the railway in June 1998 found former SR&WSC Kerr Stuart 0-4-2T 742 of 1901 hauling two open touriststyle bogie carriages over 1.5 km of track. The locomotive is owned by the Rotary Club of Red Cliffs and was fully restored by the Sunraysia Steam Preservation Society in 1987. The Kerr Stuart was in regular use by the SW&WRS between 1924 and 1953 transporting fuel from the VR siding at Red Cliffs to the pumping station at Cliffside."

If you were to post the question on the LRRSA Yahoo Group:

http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/

I think you might get more information.

Regards,

Frank
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Do/Did these pumps use a former N Class loco boiler ?
"Nightfire"

Yes, although the boiler was not used when the pumps were operating. It was located there in 1998 as part of reconstructing the pumps as a historic site (and also a tourist attraction).

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This operation is not the Red Cliffs Historic Steam Railway, which operates trains out along the old Morkalla line for a short distance. Details are here: http://www.psychepumps.com/

There doesn't appear to be much information about the tramway - nobody has written an article in Light Railways (the logical place) as far as I can see.  The Kerr Stuart loco which operates the RCHSR (named Lukee) ran on the tramway.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Unfortunately I'm unable to get to Red Cliffs to visit the tourist railway and learn more of this little-known line. Is there a reference that someone can point me in the direction of?  
vinelander
The LRRSA has a number of articles on the State Rivers and Water Supply Commision (SRWSC, S. R. & W. S. C.) tramways, starting from the late 1960's. I'd bet something would be in there.

Rick
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The LRRSA has a number of articles on the State Rivers and Water Supply Commision (SRWSC, S. R. & W. S. C.) tramways, starting from the late 1960's. I'd bet something would be in there.
"RustyRick"

Peter Charrett wrote a multi-part series of articles on the Tramways of the State Rivers & Water Supply Commission starting in Light Railways 21 (Spring 1967), but although Redcliffs was shown on the map in the first part, there was no mention throughout the series. In LR 28 (Winter 1969) Frank Stamford added some information to the article:

REDCLIFFS PUMPING STATION
There were three 2-ft. gauge locomotives here, including a Kerr Stuart 0-4-2T, B/No.742, built in 1901, and rebuilt by Kerr Stuart in 1903. It came to Redcliffs in 1924, having previously been used at Cobdogla in South Australia, and in Zeehan, Tasmania. The other two locomotives were Malcolm Moore tractors, one having an 80 h . p . Hercules diesel engine, the other having a Ford V8 petrol engine. The diesel was derelict in 1953, but the Ford engined job is retained for occasional use. The Kerr Stuart has been "preserved" at Redcliffs.

That appears to be the only reference (other than references to the loco in articles on Cobdogla or the RCHSR)

Here's another photo showing the inside of the boiler house, showing 2' gauge track and a turntable:

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  vinelander Junior Train Controller

I wonder if there's an State Electricity Commission Victoria archive somewhere?
Thanks for the responses everyone.
It would seem that this small but significant light railway is not prepared to give up its history without a challenge.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I wonder if there's an State Electricity Commission Victoria archive somewhere?.
"vinelander"

Why the SECV? Or did you mean State Rivers and Water Supply Commission?
  Bruce McLean Junior Train Controller

Location: Kangaroo Flat
The history of the SR&WSC railway at Red Cliffs is covered in my inter-active CD "Mildura Railway History".   I still have a few copies left.
There is also an article in "Light Railways" August 2002 Issue 166.
Bruce
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The history of the SR&WSC railway at Red Cliffs is covered in my inter-active CD "Mildura Railway History".   I still have a few copies left.
There is also an article in "Light Railways" August 2002 Issue 166.
Bruce
"Bruce McLean"

I wondered about your CD, Bruce, but every time I thought about it I wasn't at my PC. I was walking, or mowing the lawn, doing things which allow the mind to wander.  Thanks too for the reference to LR166. I had searched through the index looking for Red Cliffs (or Redcliffs, or Red-cliffs) without finding this article. Not surprising given the title is 'Lucky “Lukee” reaches its centenary in style.' That's a problem when building an index based on article title, without mentioning content. LR166 is available from the LRRSA online shop.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Why the SECV? Or did you mean State Rivers and Water Supply Commission?
duttonbay
Both... It was a SRWSC pump station, then part of the site was converted to a power station in the 1950's which also powered the new electric pumps.

Rick
  vinelander Junior Train Controller

For some reason I thought the railway was controlled by State Electricity Commission Victoria. Thanks for correcting this for me.
I'll chase up the resources that have been recommended.
Even by the mid 60's there was not a lot of evidence between Red Cliffs and the pumps that the line ever existed. I remember trying to follow the track bed to no avail.

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