Warrnambool line freight

 
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Sale had one that ran on a Sunday, until services were suspended..........

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  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
The slimline concrete sleepers extend primarily in the track from Geelong to Marshall.  From there onwards basically 1 in 4 sleepers has been replaced by slimline concrete through to Warrnambool .  Based on past practice the remaining wooden sleepers will be replaced by slimline concrete progressively over the next 3 tie cycles over 15 years or so .  (the same process is being adopted progressively on all passenger lines beyond the Inter-urban area.)

Within the Inter-urban area in recent years since the RFR  project virtually all wooden sleepers on Class-2 tarck have been replaced by concrete.

There is no plan or intention to increase line speed to 130kmh beyond Waurn Ponds as that would rqeuire a significant upgrade of lx protection on existing crossings, plus installation of booms at many more lx. In addition whilst some of the N class locos have been regeared for 130kmh operation, the  N & Z cars are not suitable for higher speed than 115kmh without bogie modifications as were undertaken on the three (3) sg N sets which has not eventuated on the North East as yet owing to the poor condition of the ARTC maintained track . There are no plans to operate V/Locity trains beyond the Inter-urban area other than to the current Echuca & Maryborough .
kuldalai

If the N, Z and H Cars are not suitable for higher speed than 115kmh why were some of the N class locos regeared for 130kmh operation?
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

If the N, Z and H Cars are not suitable for higher speed than 115kmh why were some of the N class locos regeared for 130kmh operation?
SamTheMan79
Two issues here.

1.  As originally purchased the N class locos were used for both passenger & freight duties and as such the gearing chosen was a compromise of 115kmh to suit passenger , and grunt at low speed for freight .  Now they are used exclusively on VLP passenger services as there is a need to fit new traction motors the decision was taken to fit those motors with gearing suitable for 130kmh operation, if and when that became possible on Class-1  track .  Class 1 track only exists in selected sections of the RFR lines  so far .

2.  The intention with the Nth East standardization was to achieve Class 1 track standard on the East Line at least . As such and in anticipation of that track standard being achieved by ARTC three N class locos already regeared for 130kmh, and the 3 x 6 car sg N sets all were said to have had bogie modifications (brake rigging,, springing and dampener improvements) to allow 130kmh running for the sg N sets only .

The botched tie renewal by ARTC the on going track stability issues on both the East & West lines have not as yet achieved a Class-1 track , so current speeds are restricted to loco hauled 115kmh and lower in many places, plus a plethora of semi permanent speed restrictions on the West line especially.
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

130kph in an N! No thanks!

I really don't think we will ever see 130kph pass running
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
In past years I had the opportunity to cab ride an N class at 130km/hron both the newly rebuilt Ballarat and Geelong lines prior to regional fast rail start up. The ride was incredibly smooth and the loco was hauling its 5 car load with ease because the wheel rail interface meant there was very low resistance.
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Two issues here.

1.  As originally purchased the N class locos were used for both passenger & freight duties and as such the gearing chosen was a compromise of 115kmh to suit passenger , and grunt at low speed for freight .  Now they are used exclusively on VLP passenger services as there is a need to fit new traction motors the decision was taken to fit those motors with gearing suitable for 130kmh operation, if and when that became possible on Class-1  track .  Class 1 track only exists in selected sections of the RFR lines  so far .

2.  The intention with the Nth East standardization was to achieve Class 1 track standard on the East Line at least . As such and in anticipation of that track standard being achieved by ARTC three N class locos already regeared for 130kmh, and the 3 x 6 car sg N sets all were said to have had bogie modifications (brake rigging,, springing and dampener improvements) to allow 130kmh running for the sg N sets only .

The botched tie renewal by ARTC the on going track stability issues on both the East & West lines have not as yet achieved a Class-1 track , so current speeds are restricted to loco hauled 115kmh and lower in many places, plus a plethora of semi permanent speed restrictions on the West line especially.
kuldalai

Thanks Kuldalai, once again another very informative response.

So you're saying that once Class-1 track is achieved on the NE SG line we'll see the N Class locos and SG N Sets run at 130kmh? Good to see there was a little foresight used from V/Line's point of view.
  lrbam Chief Train Controller

Location: The Great South West
There was a goods yesterday (Saturday), onto Warrnambool about 8am or a little later with an A class.  Fairly unusual for a Saturday train. Lets hope that's a sign of increasing freight volumes. With improving Spring seasonal conditions, it may be that the local dairy factories are increasing output and hopefully that translates into increasing rail tonnage.
  lrbam Chief Train Controller

Location: The Great South West
2 A class on this morning goods, getting into Warrnambool about 7.35
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
A 79 and A 78 on the Freight today arrived into Westvic Container Handling at about 7:40
  transam Junior Train Controller

Happened by by chance to see both of these A Classes in full flight passing through Lara, heading towards Melbourne  just before midnight on Friday 11th Oct, made a great visual and sound spectacle !
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A 79 and A 78 on the Freight today arrived into Westvic Container Handling at about 7:40
ethansx49

Out of bunbury street at 02:41 via the north track.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S01aD7SkmnM

Regards
Brian
  lrbam Chief Train Controller

Location: The Great South West
A local source tells me the down morning pass was delayed departing Southern Cross today due to no loco available to haul the carriages. Can anyone confirm or add further? Thanks.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
A local source tells me the down morning pass was delayed departing Southern Cross today due to no loco available to haul the carriages. Can anyone confirm or add further? Thanks.
lrbam
Plenty of A classes idle.

Cross hire from PN?
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
Freight didn't run yesterday. A 71 on Today's freight
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

A local source tells me the down morning pass was delayed departing Southern Cross today due to no loco available to haul the carriages. Can anyone confirm or add further? Thanks.
lrbam

Defective loco, had to wait for another loco to arrive to be put onto the cars.
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
No freight yesterday that I know of A 71 was on today’s freight
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
Can't be sure but don't think there was a freight yesterday or Tuesday A 71 was on todays freight. Also EM 100/IEV100 was sighted at the Warrnambool station this afternoon.
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
A 71 on yesterday's freight A 79 was on todays freight.
  ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool
X 42 and X 43 on today’s freight. Nice to see Double X, s on the train.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
X 42 and X 43 on today’s freight. Nice to see Double X, s on the train.
ethansx49

Thanks for the update.  Interestingly these locomotives left Dynon Light at 22:43 last night seen here: http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/11268070393 so could they now be working the warrnambool out of Tottenham Yard these days?

Regards
Brian
  Junior Rodgie Dodgie

Location: Allansford
didn't the Toc run out Saturday to totty yard too? More like track work or occos. NO CHANGE TO OPERATIONS
  Junior Rodgie Dodgie
  crisfitz Chief Commissioner

Location: Enroute somewhere

Evil or Very Mad Not happy. Heading to Terang for 2 weeks with the family - wanted to catch some classic bulldogs on freight ! I guess a pair of X's will have to do.....
  Junior Rodgie Dodgie

Location: Allansford
Evil or Very Mad Not happy. Heading to Terang for 2 weeks with the family - wanted to catch some classic bulldogs on freight ! I guess a pair of X's will have to do.....
crisfitz

A79 today. Ex derailment repairs.
  crisfitz Chief Commissioner

Location: Enroute somewhere
Yippee !! Thanks Junior. Looking forward to checking out some locations when I get to Terang on the 1300 Warrnambool pass next week Smile

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