Will be interesting to see who operates the rail service.
MORE layoffs are to come at Griffin Coal, following the sacking of operations manager Graham Cleggett. Executive general manager of support services Chris Godfrey said further layoffs are likely, although he said rumours a decision had been made to sack a further 15 managerial staff were false.
Griffin Coal says it is confident it can recover a multi-million dollar loss sustained over winter. It is believed the Collie-based coal miner lost around $18 million over a three month period. Earlier this year, Griffin's parent company Lanco Infratech was handed a wind-up notice by the Australian Taxation Office for failing to pay a $13 million tax debt. That tax debt has subsequently been repaid. The company's David Trench has told the ABC the company struggled over winter but is confident of recovering its loss.
Pretty sure this is the Qube Logistics job. Qube's crane and Rotabox system are already set up at Bunbury ready to go.
I believe the Rotabox system will be used by Iluka for Iron concentrate (with plans for the same at Geraldton), and I believe also there are plans to use it for Lithium as well.
Todd Emmert, Director of Qube Bulk’s operations, said it would revolutionise loading and discharging cargo in the port with faster slew and luffing speeds. “We will increase our operational efficiency by 37.5%, increasing available port capacity for current and future Geraldton port clients. Qube pioneered the design and development of container rotating tippers with integrated lid lifters and has been successful in attracting new concentrate exporters to the port as well as convincing existing port users to make the switch to a containerized bulk solution and reduce their supply chain costs.How are supply chain costs reduced from an alternative bottom door bulk wagon?
there is a video covering the process of unloading. looks like a lot of double handling. the load rate is 240 TPH. how does this compare with traditional bulk handling through bottom unloading on bulk wagons?
djukinx1016 that explains a lot. Those containers, which are blue, are in use here also handling mineral sands I think from Capel? I take back my comment about it being a job for road. Not realising they stockpile containers at the port, it would work for rail to use Berth 5. Rereading the OP it was also stated to be on rail. I imagine that Aurizon would get the task having both surplus locomotives, skeleton wagons and crews it would seem.
I think you will find that qube will supply their own locomotives and wagons for the job.
Do they have equipment avaliable?
Where would they service them?
I am aware Qube do rail services, I was speculating that a local rail operator with spare rollingstock and facilities in place may be a usefull alternative. At least in the short term.
There was talk of NG locos being ordered by Qube, but im not sure where that ended up being.
I only mention Aurizon because there are about 40 BAUY wagons and at least 4 locos stored in Picton.
you may be right DB. I am only going on what a mate who used to drive trains for qube told me last year that they were going to run containerised coal trains for griffen earlier this year but it has been put on hold until next year due to griffen having a few problems.
Yes its all very interesting, I know very little about Qube and there operations. In fact I know SFA about Qube but what I do know is that rail operations require Locomotives and rolling stock to be serviced. So Bunbury port has no surplus of trackage, Picton would appear to be totally utilised by Aurizon and Transwa. So does that mean that Qube may set up a servicing depot at West Collie. Like I say interesting stuff ahead and only a few months to go
I had similar thoughts WAGR, that there is no current, convienient place to put up a new service shed. If they do use their own locos and rolling stock, which to my knowledge I havent heard of any arriving, they may do field servicing. Depending on what the locos were powered by, you could probably get specialist help locally. There is Cummins, Cat, and a GE center/ dealer/ servicer in Bunbury in one shape or another.the locking apparatus has been installed on all points in aurizon yards statewide. as for servicing locos you only have to look at what watco do. they have fuel trucks following there locos around the state.
Brunswick would be another location for a possible depot, but thats ARG/ Aurizon, so...
Collie could support one, there is ample room up there, but Aurizon may not be happy about it. My only other thought is if one was built at Griffin itself. That would severely limit the capacity for Qube in the future as its not a good spot for a general depot. However, if they built one small enough for the job it could work.
Heres a nugget though. Picton container terminal has ( i suspect ) recently had what appears to be locking apparatus for its points in the yard. Why this is being done and why its needed is beyond me. But, if Aurizon are to be running these trains, they will need a place to put them. I dont think that Picton yard, or Collie yard can stable any more trains (they actually stable trains in the Picton Junction already). Brunswick has one road where a train can be stabled, but not a full 40 wagon train. Are these improvements wide spread or just at Picton Container Terminal as an improvement for future operation such as stabling of a coal train?
It would be good to see Qube run trains down here. The competition that privatisation would supposed to stir up hasn't yet eventuated.
In the short term I wouldnt be surprised if road haulage was used either, until something changes.
One of my friends got his job back at Griffin recently after being let go a month or so ago with many others. Not sure if they are all back now, but I am not surprised by the re hiring.
AFAIK, there is no way in hell that Aurizon - a competitor to Qube - would be hauling Qube's trains!
I've written in another thread about Qube ordering 200+ narrow gauge container wagons - one can only assume that some of those, at least, will come to here.
As for these comments about "Aurizon won't want to let Qube have access to their yards", well, of course not! Would you blame them? But Aurizon don't own the track (Brookfield does!), only parts of it.
The advantage to the Qube Rotabox system is as follows:
1. Storage of product without having to build expensive port infrastructure. One mining company in Geraldton managed to sell their port lease (yes, lease. Not owned) for $13.5 million to another mining company when they started using Qube's containers. All Qube need is a large, flat area within easy travelling distance of their crane. In Geraldton, this is currently the old CBH bullring, and the round trip to the crane is about 5km. Normal shiploading activity sees 5 double road trains running circles to the port every 45-50 minutes, with containers netting between 23 and 36 tonnes each. Do the sums - average 30 tonne containers, at 13 containers an hour - 390 t/h. Of course, that will vary with different products and density.
this is a good overview appreciate you posting.
one question. can the rotax system be emptied directly from the wagons on the train or does the load need to be removed from the train and placed onto a storage area where trucks are then required?
SW rail line at capacity? Then why can I sit there for hours and not see anything?
That is pot luck. Other times you can get 3 or 4 trains in 20 mins. Maybe near capacity was a better description. The Picton- Brunswick section averages 42 trains a day I think. Almost one every half hour, with most section times about 20 mins.