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  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Interesting.

The movement (I chose that word in its bodily function context) would have need two 3000 DEMU sets. One to tow the 4000 EMU to ARS and a second to tow it out to DCRD.

How long before the Gaol Loop gets reinstated?

Don't scoff, the OH gantries are in part of its track bed until just to the up side of the Port Road bridge where they then span the whole six tracks; enough room for a lead to the loop of the up Belair main.

Ian

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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

It won't be necessary once electrification extends to the city after the January rail shutdown, the EMU will only need a tow between Adelaide and Dry Creek.

Six weeks of occasional short term pain does not justify otherwise unnecessary infrastructure construction, better to spend that money on a genuine long-term improvement or establishing a better routine maintenance program instead.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I am amused how one turnout and one cross over with signalling can be seen as such an exorbitant expense given that it just might give the system some flexibility. It would even be useful once the Gawler line is electrified.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I am amused how one turnout and one cross over with signalling can be seen as such an exorbitant expense given that it just might give the system some flexibility. It would even be useful once the Gawler line is electrified.
"steam4ian"


But Ian, that would be a sensible thing to do!     Now we just can't have that can we?
  Top Cat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Under Hilton Bridge
I love repeating from time to time, the practicality and benefits of linking the north and south and reopening the Gaol Loop is simply too good not to do. Let's wait and see...but my money's on the reopening next year...8)
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It's only a very short stretch of track too.
  Adelguy84 Beginner

Just went past dry creek depot and 4002 is sitting in the shed
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
What is the latest on the delivery of these trains, the last post had two complete sets and only two cars of the third, an update if possible would be nice.
  dvdplaza Chief Train Controller

What is the latest on the delivery of these trains, the last post had two complete sets and only two cars of the third, an update if possible would be nice.
"Mufreight"


Bombardier realised the same as everyone else - if SA can outright close the line almost an entire year then who is going to notice if they deliver the trains late too... Wink
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

And then the electrification contractors realised that if there were no trains then there was no need to bother about schedules.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I have heard that Bombardier's delivery problems are internal.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

A far more detailed video of the electric trains here

http://www.abc.net.au/local/videos/2013/11/28/3901093.htm

From the sounds of it too the voice we will be getting for announcing the stations and doors closing etc will be the same voice we have on the 3000 class.
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
I'm also guessing that there will be even more announcements. I'm about to step of this train on the platform and leave my personal belongings behind. Now only if there was an announcement that would remind me of this Razz  (Source:

http://youtu.be/4JnQFyhyVmA)
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I'm also guessing that there will be even more announcements. I'm about to step of this train on the platform and leave my personal belongings behind. Now only if there was an announcement that would remind me of this Razz  (Source:

http://youtu.be/4JnQFyhyVmA)
"witsend"
'Please validate your tickets'...
  Ychromozome Beginner

I notice 4004T sitting at the back of the Seaford Staging Depot. Wonder if the flooring meets specification?
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Good to see the delivery appears to be back on track

There are no 5 car consists in service at all. The last time they were was during the Mawson Lakes to Gawler Central line closure when 5 cars would head to Mawson Lakes to split in the mornings.

Otherwise, there has been no 5 car services what so ever in recent history.
Jumbo2001
There was a 6-car empty stock run (I assume from DC) yesterday, arriving at Adelaide around 1645-50, formed of 2 3000s and 2 pairs of 3100s. I assumed it was routine, strengthening cars for the evening peak, but maybe it was something more interesting.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Good to see the delivery appears to be back on track
Milkomeda
4004B was spotted on road in Sth Melbourne early this morning.
http://tdu.to/202919.msg

Alex C
  Scooter_Guy Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA. Suburb: Redwood Park
I imagine if they prove to be successful & faster than any other train sets, then maybe in the next few years there would be new regional services (to Nuriootpa, Balaklava or even Kapunda for example) if there's enough funds to renew the tracks!

I made up some regional destinations for these services:

Nuriootpa Reigonal Express Service:

  • Mawson Lakes
  • Salisbury
  • Elizabeth
  • Smithfield
  • Munno Para
  • Gawler Central
  • Sandy Creek
  • Lyndoch
  • Tanunda
  • Nuriootpa


Balaklava Reigonal Express Service:
  • Mawson Lakes
  • Salisbury
  • Elizabeth
  • Smithfield
  • Munno Para
  • Gawler
  • Roseworthy
  • Wasleys
  • Hamley Bridge
  • Owen
  • Balaklava


Kapunda Reigonal Express Train Service:
  • Mawson Lakes
  • Salisbury
  • Elizabeth
  • Smithfield
  • Munno Para
  • Gawler
  • Roseworthy
  • Freeling
  • Kapunda
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

scooter guy we would be wise to stick to the facts about these trains, they are bizarre enough without the wild speculation you have provided.

As for your suggested destinations, consider the population growth of those centres needed to justify extension of the rail. In fact Seaford should never have been done, only 10% of commuting and related journeys leaving Seaford end at places connected to the rail service. See my rants elsewhere about the CBD and its declining focus.
Think also about the irreversible changes to the Barossa Valley if the population was allowed to grow to the extend needed to support a viable rail service.
Consider also the loss of SA's best cropping country if Hamley Bridge, Balaklava and Kapunda were also allowed to develop. These places could in days of yore just sustain* a Brill railcar service at a one or two trains a day basis, Kapunda about 4 trains a day. * note I didn't say justify.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
They did discuss Kapunda and the Barossa some years ago but this was in the context of four or five services a day using a single 3000, not a fully electrified service.  This has been done to death in other threads but the Barossa doesn't want an extension of the rail service beyond Gawler because they don't want a proliferation of McMansion housing estates into their lovely climes... who can blame them.

So it sounds like delivery is finally picking up - the fourth set in progress now?  I wonder what the revised delivery schedule looks like.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

More appropriate rolling stock for north of Gawler would be a minibus with hi-rail wheels.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

More appropriate rolling stock for north of Gawler would be a minibus with hi-rail wheels.
justapassenger
LaughingLaughing
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner


So it sounds like delivery is finally picking up - the fourth set in progress now?  I wonder what the revised delivery schedule looks like.
I have heard that the floor problem is not yet fixed so after about 5 or 6 sets are delivered there will be yet another hiatus while the problem is addressed. those units already delivered will be repaired in Adelaide (Seaford or Dry Creek ?)
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
What is wrong with the floor

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