EDIT: Was surprised to see no mention of the V-Sets on the city circle in this thread?

I posted this to Train Tracking FB group.  V38/V18 on the City Outer, 15:19 Sunday, running empty after terminating at Central P17.

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One can hold open the doors on a waratah to let your friends run for the train. But not on tangaras.

One can hold open the doors on a waratah to let your friends run for the train. But not on tangaras.

Can't that lead to damage of the doors??? I know it can be easily done on the S sets, but does that cause the doors to jam???

Can't that lead to damage of the doors??? I know it can be easily done on the S sets, but does that cause the doors to jam???

You're correct. On older trains it damages the door mechanisms. Silver set doors open very slowly because people force them. This causes the same self-important pushy tosspots to attempt to force the doors open at their station. Tangara doors can have their "rubber bands" stretched or even broken, which puts that set of doors out of action until they're repaired. Anyone forcing doors obviously has an immense sense of contempt for the rest of the passengers on the train, and should consider picking up a FREE timetable booklet so as to not have to run for trains and force doors. I've seen cars locked off because one person has damaged a set of doors. I'm sure all the people standing in the other cars were glad they made their train by forcing the doors.

I found that if i just touch the waratah doors as they close they will automatically open again!  Never done it on a silver train.

I found that if i just touch the waratah doors as they close they will automatically open again!  Never done it on a silver train.

And in another thread on here you are complaining about late trains. Are you really that stupid?

You're correct. On older trains it damages the door mechanisms. Silver set doors open very slowly because people force them. This causes the same self-important pushy tosspots to attempt to force the doors open at their station. Tangara doors can have their "rubber bands" stretched or even broken, which puts that set of doors out of action until they're repaired. Anyone forcing doors obviously has an immense sense of contempt for the rest of the passengers on the train, and should consider picking up a FREE timetable booklet so as to not have to run for trains and force doors. I've seen cars locked off because one person has damaged a set of doors. I'm sure all the people standing in the other cars were glad they made their train by forcing the doors.

There's a video by previous member, boxythingy, which shows the doors being sloppy and not fully opening, resulting in passengers having to actually the push them open themselves.

Here's the video


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sqwhKAIjlDg

Is this also a result of the doors mechanisms failing due to  people holding the doors open?

And in another thread on here you are complaining about late trains. Are you really that stupid?

I really don't think 8-10 seconds is going to make a train late. Its not as if I do it everyday at every opportunity. I was being specific to Waratah trains and how the doors operate differently to other older trains. Are you going to blame elderly people, wheelchairs or prams next?
Lighten up!

I really don't think 8-10 seconds is going to make a train late. Its not as if I do it everyday at every opportunity. I was being specific to Waratah trains and how the doors operate differently to other older trains. Are you going to blame elderly people, wheelchairs or prams next?
Lighten up!

It's not "one delay" that makes trains late. It's a compound effect of multiple people making trains late. Lets assume you hit the doors. They open again. The guard (unless they've seen you do it) must now find out why the doors have "failed". Assume now, more people and moving towards the one set of doors open. They pop open again. Eventually they will REFUSE to close, so all train doors must be opened again. Then closed again. Tha