Class leaders

 
  Mankythemuncher Beginner

Why wernt more class leaders preserved? They are a obviously a special member of the class, alot more so than some others that were preserved. I would love to ride behind 3601 or 2701 or even 4301...

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  tezza Chief Commissioner

NSW has 1301, 3001, 3203, 3801
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Why wernt more class leaders preserved? They are a obviously a special member of the class, alot more so than some others that were preserved. I would love to ride behind 3601 or 2701 or even 4301...
Mankythemuncher

Could be for at least one of many reasons. The class leader may have been seriously damaged in an accident like Y101 was in Victoria, or you could have the example of B60 that was rebuilt into an A. Then there's the possibility that said class leader may be 'too far gone' to be worth restoring when there's another class member in relatively good condition that would better suit the preservationists involved, due to requiring less time and money to be spent on it's restoration.

Alternatively, the class leader might still be in revenue earning use and not available for preservation where others of the class are- S303, 308, 310 and 313 are preserved in varying conditions and S300 is still in revenue earning service with S311 in South Aus, after being purchased by WCR and passing on to CFCLA.

Also, what achievements did other members of a class achieve? B60 was the first B in service, however B62 was the first loco in Australia to travel 1,000,000 miles in traffic, and both got rebuilt to A's.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
It often makes more sense economically to preserve the best available example of a class. Only rivet counters care which one it is!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Why wernt more class leaders preserved? They are a obviously a special member of the class, a lot more so than some others that were preserved. I would love to ride behind 3601 or 2701 or even 4301...
"Mankythemuncher"
Mate; if you knew the effort that has gone into preserving any locomotives, you wouldn't be asking such a question. Hundreds of unpaid volunteers have worked their guts out to get what we have now, often in spite of tremendous non-cooperation and difficulty. Why is the class leader "obviously (my italics) a special member of the class"? It doesn't matter two hoots whether you ride behind 3642 or 3601; just enjoy it, and thank the people who have made it possible.
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Mate; if you knew the effort that has gone into preserving any locomotives, you wouldn't be asking such a question. Hundreds of unpaid volunteers have worked their guts out to get what we have now, often in spite of tremendous non-cooperation and difficulty. Why is the class leader "obviously (my italics) a special member of the class"? It doesn't matter two hoots whether you ride behind 3642 or 3601; just enjoy it, and thank the people who have made it possible.
Valvegear
Indeed!  How are that so much more special and for that matter different to 3642, 2705, or 4306?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
not all class leaders were the first to run.....

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David Head
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
not all class leaders were the first to run.....

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David Head
dthead
Just look to the newer locos, 1103 ran before 1101. The same can be said for plenty of classes over the years even NR2 entered service before NR1.

I do think though that class leaders should be preseved, just not prioritised over other members of the class.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I do think though that class leaders should be preseved, just not prioritised over other members of the class.
"DonutCereal"
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  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
not all class leaders were the first to run.....

Regards,
David Head
dthead

Certainly the case with the R-class in Victoria. R703 was the first to turn a wheel in service rather than class leader R700.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Yes, the focus often seems to be on the lowest numbered (whatever) as the class leader, but numbers mean little really, especially when components are swapped out during overhaul etc. Perhaps the cry should be to preserve the first and last to enter service... Laughing

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