Perhaps Gwiwer really means Gisbourne Street in Forrestdale, QueenslandI like the rear carriages when I go the the city from Geelong too. However, I get frustrated when my train pulls up in a B platform and have to walk further. On the other hand, I was cool when the train pulled up at 8 south once.
Gisborne NZ, Gwiwer, Gisborne.
Oh, and I am so looking forward to 9 cars on the Geelong line. When I sit in the rear most car, it means that I will be well and truly far away from the hoi polloi who decide to sit up front in the 1st few cars
In NSW, G-sets and OSCARs have "Selective Door Control" to deal with short platforms. It is not known if this is done automatically, or whether it is done manually by the guard.As I understand it, Selective Door Control is guard-operated in all circumstances. In the event the doors are to be opened by passengers, it is my understanding that the guard 'unlocks' the appropriate doors for passengers to 'open' using the passenger door control buttons.
Short Platforms are marked "SP4" or "SP6", etc, in timetables, booklets, and on internal train destination indicators, and of course announcements by the guard.
On single deck trains, it is easy to walk through from a car alongside a platform to a car that is not. Not so easy with double deck trains, not found in Vic. The newer trains in NSW have inter-car doors that are as wide as possible, and allow two people to walk through at the same time. Are carriages in VIC like this?
This is the situation VLP currently run 7 car V/Locities (made up of 3 + 2 + 2) on Peak Geelong services only. IIRC platforms were extended at Nth Melbourne (5 & 6), Geelong, Sth Geelong and Marshall to handle 7 car trains . (Nth Geelong & Lara were already long enough).Just a couple of corrections Lara is still only capable of handling 6 cars as the flagships no not stop there.
With a view to operating longer VL consists VLP has trialled selective door opening on longer VL Consists to avoid platform lengthening . At this time there are no plans to run longer than 6 - 7 cars VL consists, rather in the first instance to run additional peak services once RRL opens.
The current order for 40 extra V/Locity cars will see all remaining 2 car sets built up to 3 cars, plus some extra 3 car sets. This arrives at a standardized fleet of 3 car consists which at least in the medium term will be operated as either 3 or 6 car consists.
With the RRL project IIRC the platforms at Southern Cross (15/16), and at Footscray (New 3 & 4), and Sunshine will be 220m long to allow for up to 9 cars in future if required.
The only line that really justifies 9 car operation is Geelong where on limited stop trains Lara is easily extended at the Up end, Nth Geelong at the Down end, Geelong at the Up end. Sth Geelong and Marshall would require expensive signalling and track work.
On the Bendigo and Ballarat lines platform lengthening would be required at many locations to operate even 6 car V/Locity consists at all stations . There has been talk of VLP proceeding with slective platform lengthenings at some bendigo line stations to accept 6 car consists .
I like the rear carriages when I go the the city from Geelong too. However, I get frustrated when my train pulls up in a B platform and have to walk further. On the other hand, I was cool when the train pulled up at 8 south once.Ah, I think I like you! My thoughts exactly
Ah, I think I like you! My thoughts exactlyI think there is a Burke Street Overpass since 2000 nearby?
Even worse is when one is seated in the rear most car of a 6 car set from Geelong, and it pulls up into pl. 1. It happened to me once, and unfortunately it is very long walk if one has to get to the Collins Street end of the suburban sparks platforms.
V/Line already stop at plenty of stations where the platforms are shorter than the train. Shouldn't selective door opening be getting implemented regardless of 9 carriage trains? Some stations can't even handle a 3 car vlocity let alone 9 car.I have it on good authority that 9 car VLocity's will not be occurring without expensive significant electrical upgrades as the maximum permitted length of the train as recommended by manufacturer Bombardier is EIGHT cars.
With the RRL project IIRC the platforms at Southern Cross (15/16), and at Footscray (New 3 & 4), and Sunshine will be 220m long to allow for up to 9 cars in future if required.I assume this is why the platforms at Sunshine have been (at least partially) demolished during the current shutdown?
Probably slightly off topic, but I am not so local, (a relative has a property that backs onto the Bendigo line, so I can see trains from the kitchen window), what is the go with the two VLocity liveries?