Miscellaneous VIC sightings # 2

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I'd say it's more to do with the high acceleration and braking force needed to maintain the timetable. Two N's would get away a lot quicker than 1 N. Just a though
"G41"
I suggest that the difference would be measured in seconds.

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  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
G536/P20/A71 back at Donald loading their grainy again.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
G and S on up BG container train through Broadford at 22:45 tonight. Must be the Qube Deni.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
G and S on up BG container train through Broadford at 22:45 tonight. Must be the Qube Deni.
EFB5800
Twas the Deni Freight, 9372 with G515, S303 and T395 hanging on for dear life at the rear of the train.
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

Are you seriously telling me that a 2500 HP locomotive can't maintain the timetable with more than 5 cars along a track that's as flat as a nightman's hat? If so, either the timetable is wrongly worked out, or the N class is a dud.
Valvegear

Well it wouldn't be able to maintain a timetable if it is hauling more than it is timetabled to, could it?

Hate to break it to you, but its two Ns to maintain the timetable with the larger load
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Well it wouldn't be able to maintain a timetable if it is hauling more than it is timetabled to, could it?

Hate to break it to you, but its two Ns to maintain the timetable with the larger load
ab123
Added the drain of 8 cars on the HEP.....
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Hate to break it to you, but its two Ns to maintain the timetable with the larger load
ab123

2500 HP can't handle about 400 tonnes on time ? Sounds like a load of old seaweed to me.

Added the drain of 8 cars on the HEP.....
"speedemon8"
Why is the HEP so small?

If the two statements above are correct, God preserve us if we ever get people who can plan and design efficient trains and timetables; the shock will kill us all.

But; someone has to be kidding. In the latter days of the broad gauge Overland, I have seen a single N on a 10 vehicle load, and that up Ingliston to boot.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Why is the HEP so small?

If the two statements above are correct, God preserve us if we ever get people who can plan and design efficient trains and timetables; the shock will kill us all.

But; someone has to be kidding. In the latter days of the broad gauge Overland, I have seen a single N on a 10 vehicle load, and that up Ingliston to boot.
Valvegear
If I recall right the HEP on it only supply so many carriages. I'm pretty sure 8 couldn't be done with one N.

Also on the Overland they towed round a PCJ, as found on the Albury carriage sets now.

Besides, when the N classes and N sets were introduced I don't think forward planning was involved with the build up into 5 car sets.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
G515, S303, 29 wagons, T395 on the up Deni, through Broadford at 23:20. Down Aurizon LDPs finally through at 23:35.
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Melbourne
C501 ventured towards Melbourne yesterday, after a few days of shutdown of the Standard Gauge line.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lc501/11682949005/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdaoxSEA5VI

Enjoy.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I've noticed two seperate V/Locity sets through Gheringhap Loop so far today, transfer from Ballarat?
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Melbourne
Went for something different with this capture, as 7MC2 passed by Schoolhouse Lane near Tallarook VIC.

NR75, NR40 and DL44 from 23/11/2013.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lc501/11706718225/
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Acceleration may well be better but how is the braking better with two engines. One would think that it would be worse even if immeasurably so given that locos traditionally brake worse than vehicles?
A question for the brake engineers.
  Clarke Hudswell Junior Train Controller

Acceleration may well be better but how is the braking better with two engines. One would think that it would be worse even if immeasurably so given that locos traditionally brake worse than vehicles?
A question for the brake engineers.
YM-Mundrabilla

VLine pass cars have a brake percentage of around 100 and diesel locomotives about 60 (both are given in cast iron block equivalent figures). The brake % of any train can be calculated when the consist is known by adding individual weights and brake %s and doing the maths, but it can be seen that adding locomotives will reduce the overall train brake % and thus brake performance.

That said, timetables should not be set (they weren't in my day) using full service applications of the brake. About half to 3/4 of a full application should be used to set a timetable. So adding locomotives and reducing brake performance should not affect the ability to met a timetable because of the margin built in to the timetable.

With diesel locomotives, there is little that can be done to make up time unless there is a bit of slack in the timetable. About all you can do is to brake later and harder and you might pick up a couple of minutes over the journey.
  stuie83 Train Controller
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
03/01/2013 North bound Qube at Broadford. CF4409, CF4410, 8049. It had one lonely SQEY wagon at the rear.

  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
There have been 2 up broad gauge trains in a row through Broadford today, with pull-push power. The up PN Tocumwal? freight at around 19:30 had XR550 and XR559 leading, and G539 at the rear. Then the up QUBE Deni had the usual G and S leading, plus T at the rear.

cheers, Matt.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia


black caviar leads qube today
  Dd893 Train Controller

Location: Castlemaine
Around 6:30 tonight, push/pull P's with a Harris set arrived into Castlemaine from Kyneton.  After about 15 mins they headed back south. I gather they are running a shakedown trip after track work during the shutdown.

Cheers, Murray
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Melbourne
One shot from me taken yesterday near the former Mathiesons Siding between Wandong and Kilmore East.

6MC1 QUBE's Harefield service with CF4412 and CF4411.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lc501/11868907583/
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
[img]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/11898722784_cee65014f0_z.jpg[/img]


7MC1 on Saturday at Heathcote Junction @ about 3pm.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
81xx-93xx light engine on the down at werribee 1745. Either a test or rescue movement at a guess.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A 93 class ran the AM8 Overland service from Adelaide. Through Gheringhap at 09:57 today. Is this the first timer the overland has been hauled by a 93 class?  Was 9313
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
A 93 class ran the AM8 Overland service from Adelaide. Through Gheringhap at 09:57 today. Is this the first timer the overland has been hauled by a 93 class? Was 9313
bevans

9310 has done it before in September 2013.
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Owing to a mistook at Metrol, N466 and 5 cars got stuck at North Melbourne platform 1 this morning and ran via the Northern Underground Loop and platform 4 at Flinders Street back to Spencer Street. (Oops, Southern Cross)

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