Tasmanian Preservation Happenings

 
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
Long resident in a dead end siding at Tunbridge, Tasrail bogie van, ZN1/R has been obtained by the DVR and was delivered to New Norfolk during the past week.

Last used as a store for thermite, it will reprise its role as a dangerous goods store (fuels & oils) at New Norfolk. ZN1/R was created by A.N. out of the body of TGR bogie van EE1 and the underframe of TGR/EZCo bogie acid tanker HT7.

This leaves ZX1/Y (body GV3 + u/frame TM2 (ex NTOA1765)) as the only latter-day A.N. service stock composite wagon still on Tasrails books.

Also preserved are ZU1/X (equipt ex SD1 (latterly removed) + u/f FFC15) at DVR and ZS1/E (ex SC1 / ex CC133) at TTMS.

Unfortunately, the three ZG wagons, composites of CC bogie open wagon bodies and NTOA/NRC underframes, were hastily dispatched for scrap in the dying days of P.N. In stark contrast to the generous spirit of the modern Tasrail organisation, P.N. did not offer any of the 'ZG's to preservation groups (either sale or donation), despite interest expressed in them.

Photos of the delivery of ZN1/R can be seen on the DVR's Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Derwent-Valley-Railway-Tasmania/125404400859782

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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
That's very good news Steve, especially regarding the attitude of Tasrail towards preservation.
  hunslet1915 Chief Train Controller

That's very good news Steve, especially regarding the attitude of Tasrail towards preservation.
Graham4405

All that one needs now is for Tasrail to allow the operation of heritage trains, as is the case on the mainland.
  grrr17 Deputy Commissioner

All that one needs now is for Tasrail to allow the operation of heritage trains, as is the case on the mainland.
hunslet1915


From the murmurings i have heard that shouldn't be too far off.
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
From the murmurings i have heard that shouldn't be too far off.
grrr17

Depends how you define "too far off". There are still many issues to be resolved before heritage trains ever return to Tasrail main-lines again, such as completion of the track upgrades, upgrading Train Control and the biggest killer - Tasrail's network insurers lifting their strict embargo on passenger services. Then you need to have heritage operators having rolling stock fit to run and accredited for the main-lines.

Hence I wouldn't get too excited - I think there will be a few more years yet before all that gets sorted.
  worldtraveller Locomotive Driver

Depends how you define "too far off". There are still many issues to be resolved before heritage trains ever return to Tasrail main-lines again, such as completion of the track upgrades, upgrading Train Control and the biggest killer - Tasrail's network insurers lifting their strict embargo on passenger services. Then you need to have heritage operators having rolling stock fit to run and accredited for the main-lines.

Hence I wouldn't get too excited - I think there will be a few more years yet before all that gets sorted.
12CSVT


I understand that DVR are working on those issues and second hand sleepers have been acquired to restore the track.  As you say, still a lot of water to go under the bridge yet (and who knows what might happen after the State election) but at least it looks more promising than in the recent past
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
I understand that DVR are working on those issues and second hand sleepers have been acquired to restore the track. As you say, still a lot of water to go under the bridge yet (and who knows what might happen after the State election) but at least it looks more promising than in the recent past
worldtraveller

DVR's efforts are restricted to the upper D.V. Line, which is no longer part of the main Tasrail network. There is no likelihood of DVR getting back out on the main Tasrail network in the near future (nor anyone else for that matter). As I mentioned previously, Tasrails network insurers are the killjoys (typical insurance companies!).
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
Further additional acquisitions by the DVR over the last week or so:

Gang Motors, WG26 and WG43. Both obtained from the long defunct Casey's Steam Museum in Dover. Unfortunately, due to many years of storage in the open weather, they are in very poor condition. WG26 has no roof or ends left at all, whilst WG43 has part of its front and part of its roof missing.

Currently awaiting pickup from a transport depot in Launceston, self propelled rail sleeper crane, SHC3. Although looking decidedly shabby, it was successfully started and is quite operable. It will be a very handy piece of kit at New Norfolk.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

There's a clearance auction at Casey's Steam Museum coming up on the 29th March....

https://www.tomm.com.au/auction/clearance-auction-dover-tasmania
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Y6 finally has new batteries installed so it can start its self again (I know cause I put all 16 in!!!)
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
Y6 finally has new batteries installed so it can start its self again (I know cause I put all 16 in!!!)
Electric C

I don't envy you, they are darn heavy!
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I don't envy you, they are darn heavy!
12CSVT

Not to mention expensive!
  tasrail2100 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane, Queensland.
Just sighted, two cranes attached to dp13 and people in orange vests crawling all over it. Could be on the move shortly?
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Sounds that way.
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Yes, got the run around for months about after the election but it appears it's going to rust in Queensland
  tasrail2100 Chief Commissioner
  Amraks Junior Train Controller

Sad photo of DP there Jeff.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
More sad how BCC dealt about it, telling fibs etc. Being hearing whispers of court action.
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
Whilst it is sad DP13 is leaving the state, in the end, from what I have heard it is in a far worse state than what was originally thought. The heat from the fire has reportedly warped the frame and the heat did penetrate the cab and has damaged a lot of the control gear. So effectively, the only things salvageable would have been the bogies, the engine, the radiator (maybe?) and odds & sods like buffers, couplings, etc. Otherwise it is a complete write-off and had anyone succeeded locally in acquiring it, realistically, all that could have been done with it would have been strip it of salvageable parts and cut the rest up.

I am intrigued as to what benefit it will be to Downs Steam, considering the above and the cost in shipping it to Queensland. I wonder why they didn't strip it of salvagable items and pack them in a container, selling the rest for scrap to help finance the shipment? Or for that matter, if willing to salvage a burnt wreck, why not go after the burnt-out ex QR '2000' class (2016, I think?) at Zig Zag? (That would have been far cheaper to get back to Qld. - plus an original ex QR vehicle).

I have heard rumours that the DP was wanted for parts to fit out the body of a similar ex QR '1800' class. I wonder if that is true? It would make sense, seeing the DP itself is beyond salvation.
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

Had there been any investigation regarding asbestos in the burnt DP at Burnie?

The two DP artic railcars at the Bellarine Railway in Victoria have been laid up for a few years now due to asbestos being found.
  Peter-Hem Locomotive Driver

Location: Tassie
I would be more worried about the future of DP14 and PT5; both units have not been moved, nor have they found a new homes since the incident. If they stay in place they will remain vulnerable targets to vandalism and destruction into the future, just like DP13.
We Tasmanians should learn from what happened to DP13, not lament about it.
  tasrail2100 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane, Queensland.

I have heard rumours that the DP was wanted for parts to fit out the body of a similar ex QR '1800' class. I wonder if that is true? It would make sense, seeing the DP itself is beyond salvation.
12CSVT


This seems highly likely.  I agree that should they wish to restore a burnt out hulk the 2000 class RM at Zig Zag is historically more relevant to a Queensland railway and closer so theoretically cheaper/easier to transport.
  tasrail2100 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane, Queensland.
I would be more worried about the future of DP14 and PT5; both units have not been moved, nor have they found a new homes since the incident. If they stay in place they will remain vulnerable targets to vandalism and destruction into the future, just like DP13.
We Tasmanians should learn from what happened to DP13, not lament about it.
Peter-Hem

Absolutely.  Even if they're just moved to a shed at the back of Don until their future is decided at least they'll be safe.
  Devonport_HandBrake Beginner

Thanks for the info there DRR_Fireman Smile
I can only assume that the chains, had something to do with the drop down plates?.  I guess they could have used them for various reasons.  

Looking at the photo on pg. 25 of the book "Railways & Tramways on the West Coast of Tasmania" by Peter Heerey and Richard Barrack you can make out chains and drop down plates between the carriages.
DRR_Fireman
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
A major gap in Tasmanian preservation shall soon be filled with the pending acquisition of EEP22 by the DVR.

Thanks to a heads up from "Tasrail - Moderator" (Much appreciated Stuart!), we were alerted to the imminent disposal of the bodies of wagons EE19 & EEP22 by a farmer in Campania. Contact was duly made with the trucking contractor engaged to remove the vans and subsequently the farmer and a deal was struck.

Final delivery arrangements are yet to be made, but the two vans should be delivered to DVR's New Norfolk depot early next week. Both vans will be initially utilised as storage containers, with the EEP at least, intended for eventual restoration to service as a generator / support / baggage van for DVR services (when they are finally resumed).

An appeal for donations has been announced on the DVR Facebook site: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Derwent-Valley-Railway-Tasmania/125404400859782
Any assistance towards covering the costs of the acquisition, transport and eventual restoration would be greatfully received.

EEP22 is the fourth EEP body discovered in recent times to be still in existence and the first one discovered in the south of the state. The other three; EEP12, EEP13 (latterly AV1) and EEP23 are all up north, the first two in Scottsdale, the third in Cressy. All have suffered comparable corrosion, through years spent outside in the weather without any protection (repaints, shelters, etc.) but none are beyond salvation. Hopefully one or more of those three may also eventually be recovered for preservation, if others don't turn up in better condition, such as EEP19 - one of the last EEP's left in traffic, last used as the AN Carpenters & Painters store.

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