Millswood Station re-opening 12 month trial

 
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
Hi,
AFULE, if this press release is real then where did you get it from?

links would be good.


cheers, Heath Loxton Smile
HeathIvanLoxton

Heath, I received the media release from the Millswood Station group, I assists them in July last year with some information, history and and several options on how to pursue this matter to try and get the Millswood station re-opened, one of those options is what has been announced in the press release.

I had the email confirmed today by the appropriate government department, who in there reply indicated that the date of the media release was wrong.

If I remember, around September last years Kouts indicated that the station could re-open, but more work had to be undertaken prior to a final decision being made.

It is interesting that that Advertiser hasn't picked up on it, but that is to be expected, it's owned by Murdoch, but I do hope their local Messenger Newspaper does.

Regards

Rex

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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The reasons why they aren't on the website's is because the Government is in - Care Taker Mode.
"AFULE"
Nice try, there have been other announcements about real decision which are happening (as opposed to this) yesterday and today, plus of course the the absolute deluge of announcements made on Friday, the date the fake presser was allegedly released! "Caretaker mode" is NOT a total shutdown!

Caretaker mode also is not an adequate explaination for why it is not on the personal websites or social media pages of either Chloë Fox or Stephanie Key - you would think both would be rather keen on getting the word out there as part of their reelection campaigns after the local agitators started courting the Liberals on rail issues in the area!

It is interesting that that Advertiser hasn't picked up on it, but that is to be expected, it's owned by Murdoch, but I do hope their local Messenger Newspaper does.
"AFULE"
You would hope they wouldn't just read every "press release" email of dubious origin and publish it as news without confirmation from a second source.

Until it is confirmed I'm still going with it not being an actual decision, and instead looking at an each way bet on it either being a fake or at most an election pledge - a pledge which the weekend's re-announcement of the last election's Gawler line and O-Bahn projects goes to show may or may not be followed through regardless of who wins.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Heath, I received the media release from the Millswood Station group, I assists them in July last year with some information, history and and several options on how to pursue this matter to try and get the Millswood station re-opened, one of those options is what has been announced in the press release.
"AFULE"
Okay, if you're going for lols you've just about won mine, so in all seriousness, if I get the hills line movers to release a presso saying the line is moving it's 'official'? Justapax has it, caretaker does not equal shut down government, Jay and co are still releasing press releases, how else do you think policy notes get out during an election campaign? AFULE appears confused about a caretaker government and the ACMA's electronic media blackouts in the lead up to the election. Maybe he, the Millswood group and the relevant pollies could have a read of the 'Broadcasting Services Act of 1992', schedule 2. In plain speak it says no electronic media from midnight on the Wednesday before the polling day until the close of polling on Saturday. - Where not there yet.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Sending fake press releases in the name of electoral candidates is probably a breach of the Electoral Act 1985.

I've searched further and found that not only does the Advertiser/Messenger not have this "story" yet, neither does the ABC, Seven, Nine or Ten.  Most damningly, even InDaily doesn't have it - you would expect an online "newspaper" which has at times been paid by the government to write positive stories about the government would have it first! Outside of mainstream media outlets Google can only find mentions of it in two places - on this thread and on the blog of an Unley councillor who is gullible enough to think a blackout was caused by an electric train going past and stealing his electricity.
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
Hi,
AFULE, if this press release is real then where did you get it from?

links would be good.


cheers, Heath Loxton Smile
HeathIvanLoxton

Heath, I understand it was in the Advertiser on Saturday page 14 - Tax Payers Cash aids bus deal --- may some of the commentators didn't have the attention span to read the whole article. I would be hopeful that it might also be in the local messenger today.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Alright I am a bit late with this posting but how can someone make a promise about something like this and at the next election which is due before this date by the way and the opposition might get in. Seems to me to be electoral Bull Smeg actually, any excuse to grab a few more votes. The pollies must think most of us are stupid or something. If it is not an official announcement then I personally would take it with a pinch of salt. It would be all over the media if it was done. You can just picture the headline now, "Closed Station to reopen after years of neglect". Or "Money wasted on opening neglected railway station for a 12 month trial".

I personally cannot see it happening as the platform would at least have to be bought up to minimum standard's to start with and it would not be cheap, also a wheel chair ramp would have to be provided on the platform as well as ramps for wheel chairs to access the actual platform. The whole cost of the upgrade would not make it worth the twelve month period of the trial. Sounds like someones fantasy more than anything though!
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I endorse the idea of opening Millswood. It is close to the bus routes to suit mode transfers and education facilities in Goodwood Road so there is the potential for traffic other than local residents.

If Belair/Seaford interchanges are possible at Showgrounds Goodwood's importance diminishes.
There may be some Pulteney students who walk to/from Goodwood Road tram stop and some using Unley swimming pool but again there is little use by local residents.

On the Belair line Millswood may see more use than Goodwood with Showgrounds in place.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
How about this idea then close Goodwood and remove it entirely, open Millswood station as the next stop on the Belair line for locals it might make more sense and save the cost of the ramps etc that need fixing at Goodwood or is this what someone might be planning! This leaves Showground station as the interchange station still.
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
How about this idea then close Goodwood and remove it entirely, open Millswood station as the next stop on the Belair line for locals it might make more sense and save the cost of the ramps etc that need fixing at Goodwood or is this what someone might be planning! This leaves Showground station as the interchange station still.
David Peters

That was also one of the proposals i had suggested.
  HeathIvanLoxton Beginner

Location: Banned
Hi,
I was wondering if there was a newspaper article in last Saturdays advertiser as per AFULE's comment then why not copy and paste it into this thread and highlight the section on Millswood station.

if we don't see it then we think you are just being silly and trying to troll me and others.


cheers, Heath Loxton Smile
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
ramps for wheel chairs to access the actual platform.
"David Peters"
Millswood has a ramp to the platform.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
The article from last Saturday's Advertiser that AFULE mentions.

  HeathIvanLoxton Beginner

Location: Banned
HI,
if this is news then this is awesome!!


cheers, Heath Loxton Smile
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
Of course ,purely coincidental that an election looms.

Here's the Labor Party's latest bait :

EXTRA ticket barriers and security cameras at two major train stations would cut fare evasion by a fifth, the State Government says.
Today it pledged $2.1 million for upgrades at the Salisbury and Noarlunga train stations to tackle fare evasion.
Premier Jay Weatherill said fare evasion cost about $3 million a year and if the trial of stricter measures were successful, it could be rolled out across the network.

Mr Weatherill and Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis also announced the Government would spend $7.5 million to build a series of new Park ’n’ Ride facilities if re-elected next month.
Scoping studies for seven potential Park ’n’ Rides would be carried out at the following bus or train stations:
• Tambelin (rail, Gawler line)
• Parafield (bus/rail, Gawler line)
• Golden Grove (bus)
• West Lakes (bus)
• Bellevue Heights (bus)
• Wayville (rail, Seaford/Belair)
• Crafers (bus)
AdelaideNow


Full story : http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia-state-election-2014/jay-weatherill-pledges-21m-to-catch-fare-dodgers-on-adelaide-trains/story-fnl3k6uz-1226831605663
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
Of course ,purely coincidental that an election looms.

Here's the Labor Party's latest bait :



Full story : http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia-state-election-2014/jay-weatherill-pledges-21m-to-catch-fare-dodgers-on-adelaide-trains/story-fnl3k6uz-1226831605663
2001

I don't know why you call it bait, at least the Labor party is doing something about rail in our state, and as a moderator I would have thought that an unbiased view should have been your position.

The question that I ask, is this a liberal party sight under the guise of a rail forum, because I don't know when the last anything supportive of the labor governments transport plans and the rail revitalisation that has been going on in this state over the past several years.

In fact most of the comments that are on this forum especially from a South Australian perspective are rubbish and that is why real rail people look at other forum sites to discuss creditable rail subjects.

When at public forum earlier this evening I discussed this subject with the Mark Parnell the leader of the Greens in SA and who is supportive of this move, and if you are old enough to remember, Mark Parnell was leading the charge against closing these stations down many many years ago and he is still a genuine supporter of practical commonsense rail solutions.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Sending fake press releases in the name of electoral candidates is probably a breach of the Electoral Act 1985.

I've searched further and found that not only does the Advertiser/Messenger not have this "story" yet, neither does the ABC, Seven, Nine or Ten. Most damningly, even InDaily doesn't have it - you would expect an online "newspaper" which has at times been paid by the government to write positive stories about the government would have it first! Outside of mainstream media outlets Google can only find mentions of it in two places - on this thread and on the blog of an Unley councillor who is gullible enough to think a blackout was caused by an electric train going past and stealing his electricity.
justapassenger

Embarassed
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
The article from last Saturday's Advertiser that AFULE mentions.

nscaler69


Given they are spending $400,000 on this, it's a new platform surface, shelter, ramps and railings.
I'm sure it's a trial in name only, as you wouldn't spend that kind of money unless you were sure it was very likely to get used.
  trainznbuses Train Controller

Location: Seacliff Park, SA
...It is interesting that that Advertiser hasn't picked up on it, but that is to be expected, it's owned by Murdoch, but I do hope their local Messenger Newspaper does.

Regards

Rex
AFULE

Morning Rex,

Unfortunately Messenger is also owned by News Corp so I wouldn't expect much different there either.
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
Morning Rex,

Unfortunately Messenger is also owned by News Corp so I wouldn't expect much different there either.
trainznbuses

At least Don Palmer - Unley Councillor has acknowledge it and posted it on his web site -

Don Palmer - Elected Member for Goodwood South Ward, City of Unley
Representing you and advocating on your behalf.






























Monday, February 17, 2014
[color=#888888]Millswood Station to Re-Open


Just prior to the Government going into Caretaker Mode Minister Fox issued a press release indicating we have scored an early victory over a previous non negotiable to re-establish the Millswood Railway Station.
A copy of her press release follows:


Belair rail services will return to Millswood station from 1 July for a 12-month trial.
Minister for Transport Services Chloë Fox said the trial will gauge the support for a reopened
station.

“After nearly 20 years, Belair services will be resuming at Millswood station,” Ms Fox said.

"Millswood was closed by the former Liberal Government as part of the rationalisation of
services when the Belair passenger line was reduced to a single track.

"This trial will determine whether rail services can now be permanently reinstated.

“During the 12-month trial, Adelaide Metro will gather patronage figures to determine whether
there is sufficient support for a permanent reopening of the station.

“The Belair timetable, which is being revised to include the recently completed Showgrounds
station, will also be updated from July to take into account departures from Millswood.

“The decision to trial the resumption of services follows strong representations by Steph Key
MP, the Member for Ashford.

“Ms Key has argued forcefully that the local community supports a resumption of rail services.
“As part of the trial, $400,000 raised through the Transport Development Levy will be invested
to upgrade the old station so that it is safe and disability access compliant.”

Ms Key welcomed the Government’s decision. “I have worked with the local community for the
past 10 years to have this station reopened,” she said.

“The reopening of the Millswood station is a fantastic opportunity for local residents and
members of the Reopen Millswood Station Action Group to show their support for rail services.
“The State Government has demonstrated its support for the Belair line through recent track
upgrades and the construction of the new Showgrounds station.

“I am confident that people in the Millswood and Kings Park area will embrace this trial and
provide a convincing argument for retaining this service well beyond 2015.”

After nearly 20 years out of service, significant work is required to bring the platform up to
current standards for passenger rail stations. This extensive work includes providing disability
access and ensuring it is safe for commuters, which will take a few months to complete.
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  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Fabricator, $400k does not guarantee continued servicing, it's chicken feed to a government, they spend millions on feasibility studies and they never leave the paper they're printed on. I know, I have been involved in several such projects, a million dollars spent and the project scrapped with minimal fuss.
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
Fabricator, $400k does not guarantee continued servicing, it's chicken feed to a government, they spend millions on feasibility studies and they never leave the paper they're printed on. I know, I have been involved in several such projects, a million dollars spent and the project scrapped with minimal fuss.
Aaron

Aaron, I know it's hard for Liberals to except that Labor & the Greens support public transport especially when the previous liberal government out sourced the the bus system to the private sector on the basis that they would save $70m over the next 10 years and that turned out to be rubbish, didn't it. In fact the only thing they did was to reduce the bus drivers wage down from $523.00 a 38 hr week back to about $400.00 for 40 hr week and destroy a efficient through working/cross city bus service.

If you look at Torrens Park & Bowen, to name a couple, they have made the stations DDA compliant by doing minimal modifications to the platform infrastructure to be compliant.

It is a good decision to have a 12 months trial, if the community don't use it, it will settle the argument once and for all for little cost, if the community rally and use it then the government will need to program it in to their capital funding projects and upgrade it.

It give the Millswood and surrounding area community a chance of having rail back, it's not your right, as an outsider to "smeg can" the achievements of the community in getting this labor government to successfully over turn previous Liberal governments wrong decisions.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I don't care whether it opens or not, I have never suggested that it shouldn't open, all I did was call smeg on the presso. Other than a slightly longer trip duration when I rarely use the line it is neither a benefit or cost to me. The point I am making (and thankyou for actually reinforcing it) is that the $400k DOES NOT guarantee success or even sustained operation in the time beyond the trial, despite fabricator's opinion.

Here's a pro tip, if I were complaining about the reopening of the station I wouldn't be telling the misinformed that a ramp is not required as it is a pre existing facility and, more importantly and obviously I wouldn't be describing $400k as 'chicken feed'. Go back have a look I did, you even quoted it.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Got this link from another Forum Labor vows to reopen Millswood Station.
Seems it all hinges on Labors 1% chance of winning next months election, Liberal's closed it years ago looks like they are going to keep it closed. I wonder if Vicki Chapman (Shadow Minister for Transport and Infrastructure) is just going to brush the idea off.
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Maybe they could upgrade Torrens Park while they're at it.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
It would definitely be a waste of $400k if the 1-year trial is a failure.

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