New locos at UGL

 
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Sunday before last they were all still there at UGL. No decals on 001 - 003, and 004 was still in undercoat. Also, the unwanted GWU was still hiding up the at back of the pack in undercoat.

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  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The first two 93's of the current order were out test running last week. There was a C44 frame heading through Hexham on a truck last Thursday, and another on Monday of this week. It's highly unlikely that there were only two other frames on the production line at Broadmeadow. So are there more C44's to follow after the last 93?
EFB5800
Interesting that you saw it at Hexham, the frames are made at Forgacs in Carrington. Which way was it traveling ?
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Both frames were southbound, near the Shell servo area, upside down on long trailers. Painted all over black as normal. I was in Forgacs a couple of weeks ago, didn't know they were built there, or I would of had look for them!
Also early this week, I saw an overhauled C44 type bogie on a semi coming through Jesmond on Newcastle road, heading city bound. Where would this be coming from?
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
Maybe the frames were stored at one of their other yards, they have a yard in Hexham and another in Tomago. As for the bogie, I see them in that area frequently, but would have no idea where they are coming from.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
What does CRL stand for and does anyone know what their use will be?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
What does CRL stand for and does anyone know what their use will be?
Junction box
CRL stands for a number of things, but in this context it is Consolidated Rail Leasing. Even though these locomotives appear on their website, it has been asserted here that they will not be going to CRL. I guess we'll just have to wait and see where they end up...
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Thanks for putting these up Shacks, looks like the PowerHauls are go.
  Michelle12 Moderator Photo Overlord

Location: Melbourne
You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
On a serious note, will this become the standard GE/UGL cab just like the NRs that cloned and cloned?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
Michelle12
An improvement on the Freightliners in Pommy Land

http://www.modelrailforum.com/images/Bachmann/PowerHaul-Unveiling-Pro-1024.jpg
  Spiritman Train Controller

Location: Camden, NSW
An improvement on the Freightliners in Pommy Land

http://www.modelrailforum.com/images/Bachmann/PowerHaul-Unveiling-Pro-1024.jpg
jmt
LOL I agree, those pommy locos are ug-gleeee. I don't find our NR clones too distasteful..but that's only my opinion.

Dare I ask what a "hotty" loco might look like? Wink
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
They look like they are really made out of plywood, any specs on these available?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

They look like they are really made out of plywood, any specs on these available?
Junction box
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerHaul_%28locomotive%29

Weight will alter between gauge and country

No photos have surfaced yet of the Hyundai prototypes

This is the Turkish UIC 505-1 profile for Europe http://www.mainlinediesels.net/images/basic/TLMGE_004_51.jpg
Turks are also building UK profile http://www.mainlinediesels.net/images/basic/ge_70099_12.jpg
  M636C Minister for Railways

You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
On a serious note, will this become the standard GE/UGL cab just like the NRs that cloned and cloned?
Michelle12

Since this cab is built to the QR NG loading gauge, it seems unlikely that it would be used on standard gauge locomotives since it would be smaller and more cramped internally. UGL might design a new standard gauge cab based on this one but I'd expect they'd keep using the one they have,

This new UGL cab isn't significantly uglier than the Downer GT42CU-AC cab (and shares the flat windscreens).

M636C
  ed31880 Train Controller

Does anyone know if the Aurizon liveried CRL's have entered service yet?
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Today at UGL, CRL002 is still in Aurizon paint, but has the hand rails removed at the moment.
There is a banana undercoated C44ACi with empty number boxes out in the yard. It has yellow railings, noise shield and radiator screens. It may be a former Aurizon painted CRL being repainted perhaps?
Another banana undercoated C44 is out the front with work hand rails fitted, judging by the rust stains under the railings I'd say it's the one that has been there a few weeks.
GWU010 is still in undercoat with work hand rails fitted as it has been for a long time.

Cheers, Matt.
  DBclass Chief Commissioner

Location: Western Australia
Dare I ask what a "hotty" loco might look like? Wink
Spiritman

Like this IMO :

http://www.railheritagewa.org.au/archive_scans/displayimage.php?pid=4651
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
There are 2 or 3 of the UGL's in the yard too. Seams to be nothing much happening there at the moment. Things don't move for weeks on end.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Thanks for the update and photos here & on Flickr.  Smile

Is there much 3' 6" track in Goninans facility ?  I'm guessing where they will base these locos when road trials begin , , , maybe Townsville QLD ? ? ?
"GS4"


I haven't heard anything official, but delivery to UGL Bohle (Townsville) seems the most likely next step for these locos. Townsville is the base for the Aurizon and PN locos used on the North Coast and Mt Isa lines and is only a stone's throw away (200km) from Pring where heavy haul DP coal testing could also be carried out against the 4100s. At the moment I'm presuming UGL will wait until all three are ready and then road haul them to Townsville...but that's just my speculation.
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The only NG track appears to be in the production shed and in the test area.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

I see GE is going to build the Evolution Series ES40ACi for South Africa...I wonder if this will impact on the PowerHaul project locally?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

I see GE is going to build the Evolution Series ES40ACi for South Africa...I wonder if this will impact on the PowerHaul project locally?
Sulla1

233 units in the GE order

Looks like GE have squeezed the 12 cylinder GEVO into the 3'6" loading gauge, weight in SA press reports is said to be 130 tonnes
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

233 units in the GE order

Looks like GE have squeezed the 12 cylinder GEVO into the 3'6" loading gauge, weight in SA press reports is said to be 130 tonnes
"jmt"


If the long hood is low enough to squeeze into the QR/Aurizon loading gauges then it will be better competition to the proposed GT46CU-ACe than a 3700hp PowerHaul. Another wait and see.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

If the long hood is low enough to squeeze into the QR/Aurizon loading gauges then it will be better competition to the proposed GT46CU-ACe than a 3700hp PowerHaul. Another wait and see.
Sulla1

Transnet has maximum width of 3,048 mm (10 ft) and maximum height of 3,962 mm (13 ft). South African main trunk lines (except for heavy haul mineral corridors) had an axle weight of 21 tonnes, however the proposed ES40ACi is quoted in the GE press release as 130 tonnes, so axle weight may be creeping up to 22 tonnes
http://www.gereports.com/post/79828315397/let-the-train-blow-the-vuvuzela-south-africas

Heavy haul mineral routes can be as high as 29.5 tonnes per axle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sishen%E2%80%93Saldanha_railway_line
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Class_15E
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The 3800s have already gone past the 130-tonne mark so that should be acceptable, and to be honest, adhesive weights really should push past 140-tonnes to take advantage of the additional horsepower. The current 26.5-tonne axle load on the Aurizon coal lines could allow for a loco up to 159-tonnes now.

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