Thank God you don't referee real games then Heath. Couldn't handle a ref foaming at a couple of locos. Get a life!!
Thank God you don't referee real games then Heath. Couldn't handle a ref foaming at a couple of locos. Get a life!!Wow, taking apart a kid because he slightly embellished what were actually two fairly reasonable questions... Someone needs to get a life, and it's probably not Heath.
A partial closure for even a whole weekend shouldn't need any work done to establish convoluted alternative access to Dry Creek. It is well established that DEMUs can operate for a whole weekend without a visit to the depot.
It would appear from the SA_TrackandSignals.net diagrams that the Dry Creek turntable is still physically accessible from the AdMet network.
Alex C
aaaaaaaaaaand locked!!!
we will leave it there, it has been summarised. moderator, please LOCK this thread before any trouble starts.
my questions have been answered, good summary MR!
Yes but where do you plan to park them, when there is no access to the main depot ?There's plenty of space to park enough cars for a weekend service (a non-football weekend at least) at Seaford Meadows, Lonsdale and Belair for the southern lines. You're right that Outer Harbor doesn't have any secure stabling, but you also identified one possible solution in terms of parking in the platforms at Adelaide Station like they do between the peaks on weekdays - there would also be the option of having them run empty to Lonsdale or Seaford Meadows in the same way they run empty to Dry Creek at the end of the night.
Just isn't enough depot space to operate the Noarlunga, Belair, and Outer Harbor lines without access to Dry Creek, which would mean parking them overnight at the main station.
It would appear from the SA_TrackandSignals.net diagrams that the Dry Creek turntable is still physically accessible from the AdMet network.I don't think the turntable would take a railcar - it appears to be only about 21-22 metres long on Google Maps. I'm well aware that the process of conforming and stitching photos makes Google Maps adequate only for rough estimations, so can someone confirm the length of the MPC turntable?
Alex C
I don't think the turntable would take a railcar - it appears to be only about 21-22 metres long on Google Maps. I'm well aware that the process of conforming and stitching photos makes Google Maps adequate only for rough estimations, so can someone confirm the length of the MPC turntable?
Broad gauge access to MPC would also be needed for the care and feeding of the SAR-era broad gauge locos run by GWA.
From BIG-BEAR's link above "Dry creek 85ft ex Gladstone " which converts to 20.9m
Tony
I am surprised you got it wrong.
85 ft times 0.304 (metres/foot) = 25.84 metres.
QED and so a rail car would fit on the Dry Creek TT.
Remember it is only the wheels that have to fit, both the 520 and 720 used to overhang the TT (they were each about 87 ft long).
Ian
Tony
I am surprised you got it wrong.
85 ft times 0.304 (metres/foot) = 25.84 metres.
QED and so a rail car would fit on the Dry Creek TT.
Remember it is only the wheels that have to fit, both the 520 and 720 used to overhang the TT (they were each about 87 ft long).
Ian
Lusty
Splitters have been around for a long time, as long a dual gauge track.
Pirie TT could have had the tracks on the same centre line, i.e. 4 rails with the heads on the SG rails milled thin at the back, then the lock could be centred.
I wonder if somebody who worked at Pirie, like Cliff Olds, knows?
Ian
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