S-set Scrapping has begun

 
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

As a result of further Waratah A sets introduced to Sector 3 (North & Western Line Services) displaced Sector 3 K sets will now be released into Sector 2 (Inner West, South, Bankstown, and East Hills Line Services) to replace the faithful S sets.

As from Monday, April 7, the following Sector 2 8S set Rosters have been allocated new numbers with 8K set consist.
The Roster numbers have changed for the purpose of grouping all Rosters operated by 8K sets in one sequence or series.

Roster 84 changed to Roster number 34.
Roster 85 changed to Roster number 35.
Roster 86 changed to Roster number 36.
Roster 87 changed to Roster number 37.
Roster 88 changed to Roster number 38.
Roster 89 changed to Roster number 39.

Note: this brings up a Total of ten (10) 8K set Rosters operating in Sector 2, and leaving a Total of seven (7) 8K set Rosters operating in Sector 3.


S set Rosters remaining, are as follows:-
8 x 4S set Rosters operating Cumberland & Carlingford Line Services.
2 x 4S set Rosters operating the Lidcombe - Olympic Park Sprint Services (currently built-up to 8S set consist).
1 x 8S set Roster on "Standby" duties.


- Scott.

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  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Between the last visit to Enfield, 30/03/14, and Wednesday evening, 16/04/14, the following moves have been made:-

8 cars have vacated Road 1 and 8 cars have vacated Road 3.
Another 8 cars have been added to Road 1 and another 8 cars to Road 2.

From the Fence Line, on Road 1 one car can be seen, Car 3073 (South End), this car was recently in the consist of set S142.
On Road 2 cars from north to south: set S141: 3075, 4119, 4986, 3961, and set S137: 3964, 4969, 4044, 3067.


As at 1700 hours, Wednesday, 16/04/14, status at Enfield, all sets with Pantographs on the wire:-
Road 1: 8 cars (room for 16 cars)
Road 2: 16 cars (room for 8 cars)
Road 3: Empty (room for 24 cars)
Road 4: 8 cars (room for 24 cars)
Road 5: 8 cars (room for 24 cars)


- Scott.
  TheLoneGunMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: At NF88.7 taking pictures
Hi All,

I see that DCM 8022 and 8027 are at Chullora awaiting their turn to visit the hydraulic claw 13/04/2014.

TLGM
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

Hi All,

I see that DCM 8022 and 8027 are at Chullora awaiting their turn to visit the hydraulic claw 13/04/2014.

TLGM
TheLoneGunMan

Where can you see them? I don't know exactly where they are stored and how to access that place.

Thank-you
  dru_gt3rs Beginner

hi guys just saw L3 when i was going to Olympic park near the track testing v set
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Between the last visit to Enfield, 16/04/14, and Friday afternoon, 2/05/14, the following move has been made:-

Another 8 cars have been added to Road 3.
The South End Car on Road 3 is Car 3915, recently in the consist of set S123, and which was previously stowed on Road 1.


The Cars previously mentioned (from post 16/4/14) as being added to Road 1 are as follows:-
set S113: 3916, 4056, 4028, 3940, and set S142: 3946, 4095, 4959, 3073 (South End).


As at 1530 hours, Friday, 2/05/14, status at Enfield, all sets with Pantographs on the wire:-
Road 1: 8 cars (room for 16 cars)
Road 2: 16 cars (room for 8 cars)
Road 3: 8 cars (room for 16 cars)
Road 4: 8 cars (room for 24 cars)
Road 5: 8 cars (room for 24 cars)


- Scott.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
For those not reading the V-set replacement thread, the state government just announced the V-set replacement program. The explicit statement in those articles are that the OSCARs would be replacing the rest of the S sets on the network, becoming fully suburbanised like the G sets got converted.  Target date is 2018, so we should be keeping this thread open for another 4 years or so Smile
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Just a reminder from my April 5 post.

S set Rosters remaining, operating Sector 2 services are as follows:-
8 x 4S set Rosters operating Cumberland & Carlingford Line Services.
2 x 4S set Rosters operating the Lidcombe - Olympic Park Sprint Services (currently built-up to 8S set consist).
1 x 8S set Roster on "Standby" duties.

Sector 3 K sets displaced by the introduction of the last of the Waratah A sets will replace S sets on the Cumberland and Carlingford Lines.

At the conclusion of the Waratah deliveries, S set Rosters will be as follows:-
2 x 8S set on "Standby".
1 x 8S set on "Special Projects".
2 x 4S sets on Lidcombe - Olympic Park Sprint services.


Therefore, the majority of the 192 S set cars (48 sets), currently retained, will not be required to operate the SWTT, unless the existing air-conditioned Fleet fail, or service frequency is increased.


- Scott.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Therefore, the majority of the 192 S set cars (48 sets), currently retained, will not be required to operate the SWTT, unless the existing air-conditioned Fleet fail, or service frequency is increased.
scott4570

This might be subject to operational requirements of course, as Millennium trains head north for IEDR fitouts, as well as other trains out of service for various reasons. Certainly they'll be needed again when the SWRL becomes integrated into the network.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Between the last visit to Enfield, 2/05/14, and Monday afternoon, 19/05/14, the following moves have been made:-

16 Cars on Road 2 have vacated.
8 of those cars are now at AMF -- set S151: 3983, 4954, 4125, 3933, and set S139: 3030, 4949, 4105, 3042.

8 cars on Road 5 have vacated.

16 Cars have been added to Road 5. From the Fence Line, cars which can be seen are as follows:-
set S127: 3001, 4016, 4167, 3764, set S135: 3871, 4003, 4046, 3972, and the 2nd 8cars, can see South End car -- 3013 (set S146).


As at 1530 hours, Monday, 19/05/14, status at Enfield, all sets with Pantographs on the wire:-
Road 1: 8 cars (room for 16 cars)
Road 2: Empty (room for 24 cars)
Road 3: 8 cars (room for 16 cars)
Road 4: 8 cars (room for 24 cars)
Road 5: 16 cars (room for 16 cars)


- Scott.
  javaricho Station Staff

Apart from Carlingford and Cumberland line runs can anyone advise if all other s set runs will be on the timetable after the middle of June? Will any sets be placed into storage and if so where. Have any sets been allocated for the heritage fleet? I would appreciate any info people could provide.
  Brett1980 Beginner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Rumour has it that the last regularly rostered s set will run this friday?   does anyone have any info on this and where and when it will run?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Apart from Carlingford and Cumberland line runs can anyone advise if all other s set runs will be on the timetable after the middle of June? Will any sets be placed into storage and if so where. Have any sets been allocated for the heritage fleet? I would appreciate any info people could provide.
javaricho

I understand C3805 and a trailer car are to be retained for the official heritage collection.

S Sets will probably remain at Flemington and Macdonaldtown/Eveleigh as standby trains, so should a train fail/run late, the S Set can continue the run until the rostered train is in position to return to the run.

Eg. A Campbelltown train is 15 minutes late. The S Set goes around the city circle and out to Homebush and back to cover for the late train, which instead goes into Mactown and returns to start the next run to Campbelltown on time. When the S Set returns from Homebush, it goes back to Eveleigh to standby again.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Apart from Carlingford and Cumberland line runs can anyone advise if all other s set runs will be on the timetable after the middle of June?
"javaricho"

Carlingford and Cumberland Lines will be rostered with K Sets from Tuesday. I'm yet to check whether this has also happened with the Olympic Park Sprint.

Even if they are all "rostered" to be K Sets, I wonder if there's perhaps been political motivation to make them this way (oh look, every "timetabled" train is air-conditioned!) and perhaps we'll see an S Set or two continue to be shuffled day-by-day around the 1001-1002 and 1090-1097 rosters.
  javaricho Station Staff

I understand C3805 and a trailer car are to be retained for the official heritage collection.

S Sets will probably remain at Flemington and Macdonaldtown/Eveleigh as standby trains, so should a train fail/run late, the S Set can continue the run until the rostered train is in position to return to the run.

Eg. A Campbelltown train is 15 minutes late. The S Set goes around the city circle and out to Homebush and back to cover for the late train, which instead goes into Mactown and returns to start the next run to Campbelltown on time. When the S Set returns from Homebush, it goes back to Eveleigh to standby again.
Raichase

Thanks for that
  javaricho Station Staff

Carlingford and Cumberland Lines will be rostered with K Sets from Tuesday. I'm yet to check whether this has also happened with the Olympic Park Sprint.

Even if they are all "rostered" to be K Sets, I wonder if there's perhaps been political motivation to make them this way (oh look, every "timetabled" train is air-conditioned!) and perhaps we'll see an S Set or two continue to be shuffled day-by-day around the 1001-1002 and 1090-1097 rosters.
Aurora8

I was wondering as well if the air conditioning bug bear was at work here.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Even if they are all "rostered" to be K Sets, I wonder if there's perhaps been political motivation to make them this way (oh look, every "timetabled" train is air-conditioned!) and perhaps we'll see an S Set or two continue to be shuffled day-by-day around the 1001-1002 and 1090-1097 rosters.
Aurora8

Operational requirements would also include M-Sets being out because they're broken, or due to refurbishment/IEDR fitting. Tangaras out for the internal overhaul (and later, their mechanical overhaul), etc. The S Sets will survive, but perhaps we'll need a thread for sighting them like the Melbournians used to have for the Hitachi trains... If there's no "rostered" S Set runs, they'll pop up randomly and interested parties might enjoy "tracking" them.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Between the last visit to Enfield, 19/05/14, and Friday afternoon, 6/06/14, the following moves have been made:-

8 cars have been added to Road 1.
8 cars have been added to Road 2.
8 cars have been added to Road 3.

8 cars have vacated Road 4.


As at 1600 hours, Friday, 6/06/14, status at Enfield, with the exception of set S113, all Pantographs on the wire:-
Road 1: 16 cars (room for 8 cars) -- sets: S113, S142, S92, S66.
Road 2: 8 cars (room for 16 cars) -- sets: S141 and S137.
Road 3: 16 cars (room for 8 cars) -- sets: S12, another 4cars, then S135, S123.
Road 4: Empty (room for 32 cars)
Road 5: 16 cars (room for 16 cars) -- sets: S127, another 4cars, then S124, S146.


- Scott.
  victorwilson Junior Train Controller

Location: Temporarily stuck in the ACT
Rumour has it that the last regularly rostered s set will run this friday? does anyone have any info on this and where and when it will run?
Brett1980

Sorry this is a little late but the last regularly tabled 4S set, S151, terminated at Carlingford at 0110h this morning. It should be on its way down the hill towards FMC now.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Finally checked and the Olympic Park sprint services are still rostered as 4-car S Sets on weekdays in the latest timetable update commencing this Tuesday. As such, not all timetabled services are rostered with air-conditioned stock.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Considering the Non-Rostering of S sets in general Revenue Service, other than the Sprint Services, it maybe timely to list the consist of each 4car set which has recently seen Revenue Service or is currently in warm storage at Enfield.

Since the last List was posted in January 2014, we finish up with 48 x 4car sets (192 cars), mentioned as being required until 2017/2018, the List is as follows:-


S sets which usually worked Sector 2 (Bankstown, East Hills, Inner West, South Line, Y-Link, Carlingford Line and Sprint) services:-

S 2    3031 4064 4108 3022                   S65   3921 4924 4122 3914
S12   3927 4923 4029 3973                   S66   3937 4043 4078 3912
S18   3892 4922 4076 3925                   S67   3066 4157 4118 3018
S28   3748 4162 4101 3976                   S69   3957 4925 4050 3955
S41   3920 4033 4053 3904                   S74   3041 4031 4138 3071

S43   3752 4129 4114 3049                   S75   3968 4023 4094 3945
S45   3033 4018 4938 3021                   S80   3048 4980 4140 3926
S46   3883 4975 4019 3908                   S81   3910 4163 4971 3900
S47   3028 4945 4931 3890                   S86   3072 4021 4027 3924
S50   3969 4960 4972 3918                   S89   3938 4026 4952 3959

S51   3899 4107 4035 3765                   S90   3898 4051 4957 3889
S52   3051 4940 4946 3936                   S91   3878 4134 4135 3759
S53   3939 4133 4048 3888                   S92   3932 4926 4069 3956
S55   3005 4013 4941 3056                   S97   3902 4039 4057 3074
S56   3862 4961 4968 3911                   S98   3064 4130 4936 3052

S61   3931 4037 4030 3930                   S99   3913 4106 4950 3922
S64   3935 4111 4166 3026                  S100  3016 4123 4062 3891


S sets which usually worked Sector 3 (North and Western Line) services:-

S113   3916 4056 4028 3940                 S139   3042 4105 4949 3030
S122   3009 4160 4942 3903                 S140   3947 4983 4141 3057
S123   3915 4002 4049 3971                 S141   3075 4119 4986 3961
S124   3023 4161 4006 3986                 S142   3073 4959 4095 3946
S127   3001 4016 4167 3764                 S145   3039 4061 4032 3941

S135   3972 4046 4003 3871                 S146   3013 4066 4164 3861
S137   3964 4969 4044 3067                 S151   3933 4125 4954 3983


- Scott.
  ivahri Train Controller

Just an update to a very old question previously answered... are 4002, 4003, and 4006 still coded "D" and potentially able to be driven in preservation?

Cheers


Richard
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Finally checked and the Olympic Park sprint services are still rostered as 4-car S Sets on weekdays in the latest timetable update commencing this Tuesday. As such, not all timetabled services are rostered with air-conditioned stock.
Aurora8

The Transport Ministry never claimed they were air conditioned, the provisio was that on weekdays they would be non-a/c but during special events it would be.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Whatever roster number the Campbelltown 7:28 city via Sydenham train is, still is running S sets. Don't recall it being anything other than that since the last timetable revision.
  bjwh86 Chief Train Controller

The Cumberland line is still 4S with atleast one 4C running as spotted today.

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