Maitland rail upgrade considered: Gladys Berejiklian

 
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  cityrail-rulez Chief Train Controller

RE-OPENING old train stations in Maitland and upgrading public transport services are prospective projects under funding consideration, Minister for the Hunter Gladys Berejiklian has confirmed.

And a decision about the preferred light rail option for Newcastle CBD is also imminent, with an announcement to be made “in the near future” during another visit to the region, she said yesterday.

Ms Berejiklian kicked off her first tour of the region as Minister for the Hunter in Maitland with $5 million in the Coalition chequebook to upgrade the 14 train carriages on the Hunter line.
Maitland rail upgrade considered: Gladys Berejiklian


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This sounds promsing to re-open all the OLD railway stations around Maitland, how stupid does Gladys think we are? She's just winning the hearts and minds of the Hunter region just so she can have the Newcastle line pulled up like she had the Sydney monorail pulled down and putting the NSW government in billions of dollars in debt with her renaming the NSW railways to suit her crappy needs

I would like to say good luck to the people in the Hunter region and Goodbye to the Newcastle railway line Sad
Just my 2 cents worth!!!

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  hunslet1915 Chief Train Controller

What "old railway stations around Maitland"?
Is she referring to the small halts on the North Coast line to Dungog, or on the South Maitland Railways?
Surely she can't be thinking of the East Maitland to Morpeth branch or the Rutherford branch!
What is she thinking of?   Any suggestions?
  donttellmywife Chief Commissioner

Location: Antofagasta
What "old railway stations around Maitland"?
Is she referring to the small halts on the North Coast line to Dungog, or on the South Maitland Railways?
Surely she can't be thinking of the East Maitland to Morpeth branch or the Rutherford branch!
What is she thinking of? Any suggestions?
hunslet1915

The reference is certainly to Oakhampton and perhaps Rutherford (at the junction, not on the branch) or stations in those general areas (Farley is occasionally mentioned, but it is probably too close to Telarah).

The idea to provide/reopen additional stations to service the new (and rapidly growing) suburban areas has been brought up many times over the last few years - I think I've even seen explicit mention in regional planning documents.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
Farley station is one that could be useful if re-opened, particularly if set up with bus connections. It is adjacent to a large and growing industrial and residential area. (further from Telarah than Maitland)

Okehampton Heights and Aberglassyn would be better served if the old Okehampton station was relocated about 1 km southward.

An improved service to Singleton would also be welcomed and has been promised before.

South Maitland passenger services are most unlikely in the near future.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I have no idea what stations she is speaking about which I suggest she has no idea either. The way things are going with ICAC she might not be a minister next week.
nswtrains

Your obvious bias against the transport minister not withstanding (I'd venture that it renders you incapable of making a coherent post on the topic personally, but obviously you would disagree and continue your mindless bleating), do you have even a shred of evidence that the Transport Minister has acted corruptly and would be in trouble with ICAC? If not, perhaps you could keep to the topic of the thread that you started, which is the re-opening of closed railway stations in the Maitland area? I'm so sick and tired of potentially interesting discussions on these forums being derailed by people with some sort of personal vendetta against the Transport Minister that they have ZERO justification for.

Certainly there is a large housing estate minutes down the road from the former Oakhampton Station, it would likely require the construction of a short loop, a new platform and a park and ride facility, as the station itself is surrounded by farmland (for now).
  donttellmywife Chief Commissioner

Location: Antofagasta
Farley station is one that could be useful if re-opened, particularly if set up with bus connections. It is adjacent to a lage and growing industrial and residential area. (further from Telarah than Maitland)
Rodo

I would have thought the significant industrial area development in the last decade and current round of residential development has been/is closer to the former Rutherford junction (part of that industrial development using the land formerly occupied by the racecourse served by the branch from the junction and the current residential development being on the former golf course immediately adjacent to the junction), though I expect the demand for passenger rail transport to the industrial area to be close to nil.

There has been some residential development to the immediate north of the former Farley rail station over the last decade and there is another large residential release planned over the next decade or two to the south west. I'm not sure what you mean by the "further from..." bit.

To be honest I am sceptical of the merit of trying to build these "infill" stations, particularly given their location past a major junction means service frequency is always going to be compromised. You are better off trying to maintain a wide spacing (say 5 kilometres or so) and then using local buses to bridge in the gaps. Improving service frequency to new stations north of Telarah or on the main north to the west of Maitland is always going to be difficult without significant track amplification and related works. There is absolutely no point in reopening Farley or Oakhampton if you are only going to run three or four services a day to them. The existing stations have good access to the road network, transport options should be concentrated on them. If anything I'd be inclined to delete some of the existing stations.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Raichase. Do not take things so seriously. I would seriously doubt anyone as dull as the minister would end up before ICAC but the Police Minister was welcoming new police graduates in the morning and gone shortly after undertaking those duties so never say never. I have no personal vendetta and just leave it up to these clowns to politically implode all at their own hands. With that in mind how can you take them seriously.
nswtrains

You're quite welcome to say you have no personal vendetta, however your personal bias infiltrates everything you have posted on this thread to the point that you are trying to derail a potential discussion before it has even started. If you are, as you say, "content to let them implode at their own hands", how about withholding all of your garbage from these forums then. I don't give a damn about you or your political views, I'm here to discuss railways. Keep your garbage to yourself in future and we won't have an issue.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

You're quite welcome to say you have no personal vendetta, however your personal bias infiltrates everything you have posted on this thread to the point that you are trying to derail a potential discussion before it has even started. If you are, as you say, "content to let them implode at their own hands", how about withholding all of your garbage from these forums then. I don't give a damn about you or your political views, I'm here to discuss railways. Keep your garbage to yourself in future and we won't have an issue.
Raichase

Just to keep you happy I have deleted my 2 posts. Boy, what a grump. RP is not exactly the New York Times.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Just to keep you happy I have deleted my 2 posts. Boy, what a grump. RP is not exactly the New York Times.
nswtrains

A typical over-reaction to make me look like a "bad guy". I couldn't give a hoot what you want to do, you only drag your own name through the mud with your pointless ranting.
  splodgelet Locomotive Fireman

Location: In front of a computer
Suggestion:

Open up Rutherford as a new housing development is going in of Racecourse Road and service the station with a new frequent services terminating at Branxton to service the new development nearby 'Huntly'?  (There is a crossover there so it should be no problems for terminating trains).




P.s   From the above replies all I see is guesstimates coming from people who do not live and work in that area and who are not in that area regularly.....

that's my 2 cents worth......
  donttellmywife Chief Commissioner

Location: Antofagasta
P.s From the above replies all I see is guesstimates coming from people who do not live and work in that area and who are not in that area regularly.....

that's my 2 cents worth......
splodgelet

If you lived in the area then you'd know that the "new housing development off Racecourse Road" is the redevelopment of the former golf course, already mentioned. You'd also be aware that there's a rather expensive bit of track missing in that area that might be required before you could increase passenger service frequency by much towards Huntlee.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
If she is so worried why doesn't run a few services up to Singleton or Branxton?
The untouchable coalies seem to get everything their own way.
If she wants to touch on old stations maybe she could look at Toronto too?
  donttellmywife Chief Commissioner

Location: Antofagasta
Because:

- Toronto is not Maitland.
- Reinstating that line as heavy rail would be rather expensive- I expect today there would be a requirement to grade separate the Cary street crossing.
- Any practical heavy rail service that could be provided would be less attractive to users than the current bus service, mostly due to frequency but also stop spacing.
- Demand for that segment means that it would be cheaper to operate a bus than a heavy rail service.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Im not going to get into a Toronto debate but we all know the population around the Lake has exploded in the last 23 years and people are expected to buy a car and fill up the Fassifern car park.
Rutherford does have a good case for a station with a reconfigured layout, the Minister is thinking around new housing estates which is good.
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

As long as they don't want to get direct to Newcastle on the same train:)
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
As long as they don't want to get direct to Newcastle on the same train:)
Showtime

Yeah too bad if they do re introduce a few a few regional Hunter services and everything stops at Hamilton.

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