The future for rail employment

 
  Onelongwhistle Junior Train Controller

Afternoon All.
Just a head up to all who are trying to get into the rail game, my view.
Over the past couple of weeks it has become clear that the rail employment scheme is in a massive downturn.
We have already had the announcement that PN will be making 70 drivers redundant, I have even been told they
want five SCIDS to go from NSW coal.
Now we have the news that Rio Tinto is about to start its driverless train trials.
The may result in job cuts this may not. I have been told from different RIO drivers that they are doing this
as they want to increase capacity and there wasn't any drivers left so they went this way. Also been told that
they intend to replace drivers so who knows. we will wait and see.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-28/rio-tinto-to-test-driverless-trains/5415292
Now we also have the knowledge that this year the grain may not be too flash hot. Yes we may go into
EL Nino but all you need is rain at the right time and you can remarkably get a good crop.
So in the space of six months as you can see Rio may release over 400+ drivers which would flood the market
and result in probably no trainee intake for 1-4 years I would guess. That's assuming that every driver would want to stay in the driving game. Once a driver is qualified its a lot easier to requalify than new start and cheaper.
Also add into this mix Aurizon(QR) is going through the whole headcount thing so we may still see some drivers freeing up
on the job market.
And to add insult to injury PN has put in a submission for DOO working in NSW and its with ITTSR. If this gets into the hunter valley look how many more could go. This would also compound the effect of the take or pay contract that were signed in 2008-2010 period.
Most of theses contracts have a five year review period where either one can withdraw. Once this five year term comes up a lot of mines will go in to caretaker mode as there are numerous mines running at a loss due to the fact they have to pay for the train if they use it or not.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/rail-deals-force-major-miners-to-operate-at-a-loss-20140325-35gg1.html

If you want a career in the rail industry I am saying apply and you may be lucky, but don't get disappointed when you don't get in.
I think over the next five years will be the toughest rail employment scene since NSW and Vic privatisation.
And yes I am a driver at the one of the big two.
OLW

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  Onelongwhistle Junior Train Controller
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
Let's be realistic. I was at Coota when Coota,Junee and Temora bulk depots were reduced to 18 drivers  (including 2 Driver trainers) in 2007. PN have lost a few grain contracts to other operators, so the jobs are still there.

Edit:clarification
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Afternoon All.

We have already had the announcement that PN will be making 70 drivers redundant, I have even been told they want five SCIDS to go from NSW coal.
Onelongwhistle

Yes I would get rid of SCIDS too if I knew what it/they are.

We don't all work for PN (thankfully) or speak PN.

SCID = Severe combined immunodeficiency disease (SCID)
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Let's be realistic. I was at Coota when Coota,Junee and Temora bulk depots were reduced to 18 drivers (including 2 Driver trainers) in 2007. PN have lost a few grain contracts to other operators, so the jobs are still there.

Edit:clarification
Fireman Dave


This is a bit outside the scope of the thread but when I was in that area the prevailing attitude from PN toward their customers was that 'yeah, we might be smeg, but where else are you going to go?' Well now there's options and PN are going to have to change their attitude if they want to stay competitive.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
SCID= Special Class Instructing Driver
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
SCID= Special Class Instructing Driver
seb2351

Thanks Seb.
  Onelongwhistle Junior Train Controller

Looks like a few drivers are going to be redeployed in WA for an ore service. Apparently PN Bulk won the contract.
Don't know what or who for.
OLW
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Looks like a few drivers are going to be redeployed in WA for an ore service. Apparently PN Bulk won the contract.
Don't know what or who for.
OLW
Onelongwhistle

Mt Walton Iron Ore contract, formerly an Aurizon held contract.
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

How about employment beyond being a driver or to be more specific, technical/engineering?

While I can appreciate that a decrease in driver numbers generally equates to a downturn in operations, I can also hesitate a guess that the capabilities/skills required to maintain operational flexibility remains more consistent

I would be happy to be disproven by those more knowledgable within the industry
  Onelongwhistle Junior Train Controller

Well you won't believe it, looks like they need a few more drivers than previously thought.
Headcount was wrong, have been a told a few more drivers will need to stay.
Don't know what area though.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Well you won't believe it, looks like they need a few more drivers than previously thought.
Headcount was wrong, have been a told a few more drivers will need to stay.
Don't know what area though.
Onelongwhistle

I'd believe it

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