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      Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne VIC
    XPT seems to have derailed on new RRL line in Melbourne.

    Can see two cars off from my office on La Trobe street.

    Line only opened this morning.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 10:00

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      Carnot Minister for Railways

    Doh!
    http://t.co/jKoOBDEpca

    Not a great start for the RRL flyover....
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 10:13
      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    No Injuries have been reported, which is a good thing

    Kind Regards
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 10:13
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    The mop up of this will be interesting, especially given that this month there is (meant to be) the staged introduction of Ballarat and Bendigo trains on to the RRL....
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 10:21
      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    Is this the first ever run of a Train on the RRL in Victoria?

    Kind Regards
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 10:44
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    In the best traditions of Government, nobody will be responsible.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 11:27
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    Story via the ABC. The train was apparently heading to Sydney and has derailed over the new junction with the RRL lines on the Dynon side of the flyover. Not a great look on new tracks.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-11/train-derails-at-north-melbourne-en-route-to-sydney/5589540?&section=news
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 11:45
      dean65 Locomotive Driver

    Location: Ballarat
    Story via the ABC. The train was apparently heading to Sydney and has derailed over the new junction with the RRL lines on the Dynon side of the flyover. Not a great look on new tracks.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-11/train-derails-at-north-melbourne-en-route-to-sydney/5589540?&section=news
    jdekorte

    Train derails at North Melbourne en route to Sydney
    Updated 1 hour 2 minutes ago
    [color=#310099][img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5589562-3x2-700x467.jpg[/img][/color][color=#310099][b][color=#000000][size=2]PHOTO:[/size][/color][/b] Passengers from the Sydney-bound CountryLink service are being transferred onto buses.[color=#666666][size=2](774 ABC Melbourne: Mick James)[/size][/color][/color]
    [color=#310099][b][color=#000000][size=2]MAP: [/size][/color][/b]North Melbourne 3051[/color]
    An interstate passenger train has derailed in Melbourne.
    [color=#310099][img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5589702-3x2-340x227.jpg[/img][/color][color=#310099][b][color=#000000][size=2]PHOTO:[/size][/color][/b] Passengers had to get off the derailed train on the tracks near North Melbourne station.[color=#666666][size=2](ABC News)[/size][/color][/color]

    Two carriages of the Melbourne-to-Sydney CountryLink service came off the tracks between Southern Cross and North Melbourne stations, in the inner city.
    There are no reports of any injuries.
    Passengers are being transferred to buses.
    V/Line said its Southern Cross to Albury rail service had been cancelled as a result and a coach would replace the service.
    Melbourne's rail operator Metro said none of its services were affected.
    Topics: [color=#619100]rail[/color], [color=#619100]rail-transport[/color],[color=#619100]north-melbourne-3051[/color], [color=#619100]sydney-2000[/color]
    First posted 1 hour 45 minutes ago
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 11:55
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    Is this the first ever run of a Train on the RRL in Victoria?

    Kind Regards
    lsrailfan

    Not really. V/Line, as evident by this picture on VicSig, were doing driver training through that location the other day.

    http://www.vicsig.net/photo/18414
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 13:01
      TedHanson Junior Train Controller

    But first passenger service?
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 13:27
      duttonbay Minister for Railways

    Reported elsewhere that the rear couple of cars tried to take the BG line off the viaduct, and (obviously) didn't get very far.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 13:38
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    But first passenger service?
    TedHanson

    Again not really as much of that track was installed late last year...?  The RRL lines branch off to the right after leaving the flyover - tracks over the flyover are dual gauge.  The XPT would have been on the standard gauge tracks.  The XPT & the Overland have been using those flyover tracks for months.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 13:39
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia


    At least two coaches off.  Could this be a rail issue or a bogie issue?
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 14:59

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      Campaspe 2 Junior Train Controller

    Does anyone know the numbers of the XP locos and carriages involved?

    I think the trailing carriage is XAM 2176.

    Regards

    Campaspe
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 15:29
      kuldalai Chief Commissioner

    Today was the first day of resumed XPT operation into Southern Cross so looks a bit sus . It appears that the  rear cars and locomotive came off at the Dynon side where the  dual gauge spits to the left towards Dynon and the bg takes off to the right towards  Spion Kop Junction .  At that point on the dg line nearest to Docklands there is a fixed gauge splitter that takes the Down sg line to the right into the sg single line towards  Sims St  Junction .  So strange that the leading loco and cars got through the gauge splitter OK but rear cars came off .
    Would appear that track damage would be confined to the gauge splitter on one track,  and possibly the bg turnout from the Down dg line towards  Spion Kop  Junction RRL .

    This could well and truly  stuff up the intended access from 15/07 by VLP  Geelong, Ballarat & Bendigo trains into Southern Cross using the dg Nth Melbourne flyover.  Up bg VLP should be OK to access Sthn Cross via Nth Melbourne flyover, but if there is damage to the bg turnout from the Down dg line towards Spion Kop Junction then Down bg via Nth Melbourne flyover may be delayed till those points are replaced.

    One can see and appreciate why the RRL is fitted with virtually continuous check rails through  Dudley St and over the flyover and junctions towards Spion Kop .

    The dual gauge junctions at  both the Dynon and  Dudley St ends of the Nth Melbourne flyover will become real service stoppers if and when derailments occur at these points in future .  Such derailments are total stoppers for sg and disruptive for bg which can still access Sthn Cross from the Through, Main and East Suburban lines at Franklin St .  BUT Metro would be most annoyed .
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 15:30
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    SG line over the flyover will be out of action all day tomorrow (Saturday) according to the Vline website:
    http://www.vline.com.au/home/news/carousel/575368583/Article.aspx
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 16:41
      dean65 Locomotive Driver

    Location: Ballarat
    SG line over the flyover will be out of action all day tomorrow (Saturday) according to the Vline website:
    http://www.vline.com.au/home/news/carousel/575368583/Article.aspx
    Carnot

    Disruption to Albury line servicesDue to the derailment of a Sydney-bound XPT train, the following Albury services will be altered to run as coaches:
    Friday 11 July
    From Albury

    17:20 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.

    From Southern Cross Station

    18:01 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury
    Saturday 12 July

    From Albury

    06:35 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.
    12:45 will operate as coach to Melbourne.
    17:20 will operate as a train to Broadmeadows then a coach to Melbourne.


    From Southern Cross Station

    07:10 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury.
    12:00 will operate as a coach to Albury.
    18:01 will operate as coach to Broadmeadows then a train to Albury.


    Please allow an extra 60 minutes for your journey.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 16:56

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      petan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
    Today was the first day of resumed XPT operation into Southern Cross so looks a bit sus . It appears that the rear cars and locomotive came off at the Dynon side where the dual gauge spits to the left towards Dynon and the bg takes off to the right towards Spion Kop Junction .  
    kuldalai

    An XPT derailing on the point of gauge separation reminds me of 12/12/2010 when NT32 derailed towards platform 3 QR track at South Brisbane. This was the point of separation of standard gauge and 3ft6in southbound. In this case it was the lead locomotive and the first passenger carriage that derailed.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:04
      blowfish Junior Train Controller

    How do they facilitate services beginning at Broadmeadows? Is it push-pull? It's only single track there from what I understand.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:07
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    How do they facilitate services beginning at Broadmeadows? Is it push-pull? It's only single track there from what I understand.
    blowfish

    I think they run around at Essendon.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:37
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    The word from NSWTrainLink

    Regional services - CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT service alteration.
    At around 8.35am today, two carriages on the Melbourne to Sydney XPT service partially derailed 3km north of Southern Cross Station, Melbourne with all carriages upright. Replacement coach services departed Melbourne Southern Cross Station at 12:05 a delay of up to 200 minutes will be experienced. Customers from locations Benalla to Moss Vale will be placed on supplementary coaches service running close to time.

    The following alteration to XPT services has been made.

    Friday 11 July, Saturday 12 July and Sunday 13 July 2014

    CLK623 the 07:32 Sydney to Melbourne and CLK621the 20:32 Sydney to Melbourne XPT services will terminate at Albury and replaced with a road coach service from Albury to Melbourne.

    CLK622 the 19:50 Melbourne to Sydney XPT will be replaced with a road coach service from Melbourne to Albury. The XPT will commence from Albury and operate to Sydney.

    Saturday 12 July, Sunday 13 July and Monday 14 July 2014

    CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT will be replaced with a road coach service from Melbourne to Albury. The XPT will commence from Albury and operate to Sydney.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:43

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      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    I think they run around at Essendon.
    railblogger

    No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:45
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
    jdekorte


    Craigieburn?
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:50
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    No the Albury train is Standard Guage. Do they run the train around at Tottenham or Dynon?
    jdekorte

    Whoops forgot about that.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 18:59
      gomer Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne
    Again not really as much of that track was installed late last year...? The RRL lines branch off to the right after leaving the flyover - tracks over the flyover are dual gauge. The XPT would have been on the standard gauge tracks. The XPT & the Overland have been using those flyover tracks for months.
    jdekorte

    Not true , XPT,Overland & Albury services have been using the now Up line only over the flyover as it was bi-directional. The 0710 Albury was the first Dn Pass to use the down dual gauge track with the XPT next although light engines have been running over it.
    Posted: 11 Jul 2014 19:53

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