Is it possible to mount a Lima S class body on an Austrains X class chassis

 
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi all,

While looking for a replacement chassis for my Lima S class, I noticed on Mark Bau's site that the X class was effectively an S class with redesigned body. This led me to the question, is it possible to realistically mount a Lima S class body on an Austrains X class chassis, or would I have to build a new chassis or could I slightly modify the Austrains chassis.

Thanks,

Peter

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  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Hi all,

While looking for a replacement chassis for my Lima S class, I noticed on Mark Bau's site that the X class was effectively an S class with redesigned body. This led me to the question, is it possible to realistically mount a Lima S class body on an Austrains X class chassis, or would I have to build a new chassis or could I slightly modify the Austrains chassis.

Thanks,

Peter
PICHhobbies

I am not sure replacing a so so Lima S Class body with a reasonable X Class body is such a great idea but anything is possible. It really depends if the end result is worth it.
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Ok thanks.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Have you considered the mechanism from something like an Athearn or similar? Just need a 6 axle loco of the right length so try something like an SD7. Make your own judgments re the wheel spacings and bogie frame style. Many of us did this for a Lima 44 / 930.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
I repowerd a Lima B and some Ss years ago with Austrains X bogies. I just cut the Lima bogie mounting ares out of the original chassis and made new bolsters out of styrene. I used Atlas motors and fly wheels, but I don't see why an Austrains motor wouldn't work the same. I've done the same with Powerline Gs and 81s using Austrains C bogies. It depends on your skills. I can post some pics if you'd like.
Cheers, Matt.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
http://dth.railpage.org.au/emrc2/fromctog.htm

The link above shows a Powerline "G" being converted with Austrains "C" parts. You could do the same for the "S" using Auscision parts, motor and bogies( a lot cheaper to buy the main parts), and many say the bogies are better. I did a Lima "B" with a Austrains mech, many have.

Or wait for the next show with Auscision ( Sandown 2015) and go for the bargin boxs. They often have B class of late, use the whole mechanism under a "S".

And if you take your time, detail the loco and do a decent paint job, it's your loco.

Regards,
David Head

ps edited for some spelling. I think if you are frustrated  by spelling, try PM'ing them instead, as a public shaming is not positive at all.  Yes there was a post, and it has been deleted. however in the interest of not hiding these things, this  addition to my post.
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi,

I may take Matt's approach, as I know myself it is easy to remove bogies and the motor, I took the whole X apart for a major service not too long ago. Matt, some pictures would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Peter
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
If the bogie wheelbase is the same you should be able to place the X mech into the S class body but you may have to do some mods here and there to it. I have successfully put a C class mech into a G class locomotive and it is quite easy as well. But if the X class has a longer wheelbase than the S class then you need to find a suitable donor locomotive. I know a American SD7 or 9 loco will fit into it. Well Athearn ones will any way but Proto 2000 have a SD7/9 that might do the job they are virtually the same as a an Australian type mech these days and run nicely as well. Also it might be cheaper to do this conversion and keep your X class as a X class to run with it! Here is a link to Walthers web site about these locos this the undecorated version though!

https://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/920-47737
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Here's the hard way to fit Austrains bogies into a ringfield motored model. Simply build a whole new chassis out of styrene. Refit the original fuel tank under it.





A bit over engineered, but worth it on the BL or G to get the gap above the fuel tank.

The other way is to simply cut away the original bogie mounting areas and fit new bolsters as below.





And a Lima S class chassis fitted with Atlas bogies. The same as fitting Austrain X class bogies but with different bolster height.







Just cut out the original mounting areas and build new ones. The drive shafts were cut and refitted into a peice of tube for correct length.

You can build styrene motor mounts, or just put the motor in place on a glob of silicone. Just dont use the corrosive ones. Watch out if you use Proto 2000 chassis as they are mostly geared a bit slower than other makers and don't MU well on a DC layout. And don't forget the easiest way to repower Lima models. Just depower them and use as dummies. I'd say 1/3 of my 100s of diesels are dummies!

Cheers, Matt.

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