Location: Banned
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Bendigo on board with urban rail service
Chidda Bang
Locomotive Driver
Location: Banned
don_dunstan
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Adelaide proud
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Ultimately all of these growing population centres are connected by way of the controversial and presently unused north-south pipeline via the desalination plant at Wonthaggi, subsequently when the next long drought comes along has drought-proofed a large part of regional Victoria.
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Mike - I don't believe that the Sugarloaf pipeline actually connects the desal plant (in Gippsland) with the Goulburn Goldfields super-pipe? I could be wrong but I don't believe that the system can operate in that manner.
Camster
Chief Commissioner
Location: Geelong
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Two Zones?
duttonbay
Minister for Railways
I feel like I am invading somebody's dream every time I come to this thread.
melbtrip
Chief Commissioner
Location: Annoying Orange
Two Zones?
Personally - I would have make it one simple single zone - Zone 3
0 to 60km - 1
40km to 60km - overlap of 1 and 2
60 km to 120km - zone 2
100km to 120km - overlap of 2 and 2
120 plus : Zone 3
kapow
Junior Train Controller
Mike - I don't believe that the Sugarloaf pipeline actually connects the desal plant (in Gippsland) with the Goulburn Goldfields super-pipe? I could be wrong but I don't believe that the system can operate in that manner.
You are correct on this, the Desal plant can supply water to Gippsland, Melbourne, Goulburn and Geelong (includes the surf cost). There were proposals from the Brumby government at the last election to expand on this and connect the Superpipe system up with the central water grid but with them getting the chop it didn't go ahead.
The Vinelander
Minister for Railways
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Mike - I don't believe that the Sugarloaf pipeline actually connects the desal plant (in Gippsland) with the Goulburn Goldfields super-pipe? I could be wrong but I don't believe that the system can operate in that manner.
There may be some 'tinkering' involved but the main infrastructure is in place.
When push comes to shove in the next drought, and for the naysayers and disbelievers there will be a 'next drought', it's not going to be a difficult proposition to link up the Desal plant which I believe feeds Cardinia reservoir to the remainder of the network.
Water can flow either direction through the currently unused North-South super-pipe.
don_dunstan
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Adelaide proud
Water can flow either direction through the currently unused North-South super-pipe.
There are no votes in the water flowing north.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
I would like to see a business case built for urban rail extensions in the bendigo area.
g00r
Locomotive Fireman
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Should that be zones 13 & 14?
ZH836301
Chief Commissioner
Location: BleakCity
This is complete silliness.
Where?
Why?
Ever been to Bridgewater?
It most certainly is.
All rhetoric, no justifications = foam.
But today governments sell off land that was planned for railway lines.
Where?
Putting train stations on the existing lines around Bendigo has to be preferable to using buses.
Why?
I would not stop at marong I would run to the station past where marong once was into Bridgewater.
Ever been to Bridgewater?
It is not about foaming.
It most certainly is.
All rhetoric, no justifications = foam.
kuldalai
Chief Commissioner
The only likely extension to VLP Passenger rail network in the medium term is restoration of Geelong _ Ballarat passenger services with intermediate stops at Lal Lal, Meredith and Bannockburn
Three VLP passenger routes lend themselves ideally to Sprinter shuttles connecting with mainline Vlocity trains to/from Melbourne at Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo. Those routes being. Geelong _ Ballarat, Ballarat _ Maryborough. and. Bendigo _ Echuca.
Three VLP passenger routes lend themselves ideally to Sprinter shuttles connecting with mainline Vlocity trains to/from Melbourne at Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo. Those routes being. Geelong _ Ballarat, Ballarat _ Maryborough. and. Bendigo _ Echuca.
Chidda Bang
Locomotive Driver
Location: Banned
Should that be zones 13 & 14?
Yer sorta
Calgully
Deputy Commissioner
Location:
I can't imagine anywhere in Victoria where V/line rail services could be economically and successfully extended.
I can think of a few - some more worthy than others.
Apart from the RRL, and extensions to Eaglehawk and Epsom planned for next April there could be:
1. Extend an afternoon Seymour to Shepparton (will happen next year AFAIK)
2. Extend one peak Traralgon to and from Sale
3. Extend one peak Waurn Ponds to and from Colac
4. Reopen or build new stations at Harcourt, Golden Square, Moriac, Lake Boga, Beveridge, Caroline Springs
5. Geelong to Ballarat
6. Second daily trains to Maryborough and Echuca
trainbrain
Chief Commissioner
There may be some 'tinkering' involved but the main infrastructure is in place.
When push comes to shove in the next drought, and for the naysayers and disbelievers there will be a 'next drought', it's not going to be a difficult proposition to link up the Desal plant which I believe feeds Cardinia reservoir to the remainder of the network.
Water can flow either direction through the currently unused North-South super-pipe.
I hate to tell u this but, the North South pipeline from Eildon can only be pumped to Sugarloaf, it may disappoint u but that is FACT.............. double check for yourself....................
Carnot
Minister for Railways
Interesting. Let's see if the LNP responds with its own plan:
http://www.bendigoweekly.com.au/news/full-steam-ahead
"Opposition Leader Daniel Andrews has announced a Labor state government will take the next step in setting up a suburban train network in Bendigo.
Mr Andrews announced plans to create the Bendigo Metro Rail system while visiting the city today.
The Bendigo Weekly [color=#0066cc]revealed in July Greater Bendigo council was working on plans to have a suburban train network within a decade.[/color]
Ms Andrews said $2 million would be allocated to set up a steering committee for the project.
That committee will look at demand, timetabling and what trains are needed.
Bendigo Metro Rail will have its own timetable, and may include some Melbourne services."
http://www.bendigoweekly.com.au/news/full-steam-ahead
"Opposition Leader Daniel Andrews has announced a Labor state government will take the next step in setting up a suburban train network in Bendigo.
Mr Andrews announced plans to create the Bendigo Metro Rail system while visiting the city today.
The Bendigo Weekly [color=#0066cc]revealed in July Greater Bendigo council was working on plans to have a suburban train network within a decade.[/color]
Ms Andrews said $2 million would be allocated to set up a steering committee for the project.
That committee will look at demand, timetabling and what trains are needed.
Bendigo Metro Rail will have its own timetable, and may include some Melbourne services."
The Vinelander
Minister for Railways
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I hate to tell u this but, the North South pipeline from Eildon can only be pumped to Sugarloaf, it may disappoint u but that is FACT.............. double check for yourself....................
I'm not in the least bit disappointed. Infrastructure can be added to or taken away as required.
The main point is that with the desal plant, despite the propaganda by the conservatives, we will all most likely to live to see the desal plant in action and proving the state of Victoria is now largely drought proof where the majority of the population lives.
Feel free to refute my comments when the next drought comes...
Mike.
wobert
Chief Commissioner
Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
I feel like I am invading somebody's dream every time I come to this thread.
And it's wet
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
You might argue Geelong already has a metro style network or at least a Geelong urban network.
Stations in Geelong. There are several.
Corio
North Geelong
Geelong
South Geelong
Geelong racecourse
Marshall
Waurn Ponds
That is 7
Stations in Geelong. There are several.
Corio
North Geelong
Geelong
South Geelong
Geelong racecourse
Marshall
Waurn Ponds
That is 7
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
Ballarat has
Ballarat East
Ballarat
Wendoree
Is that it?
Ballarat East
Ballarat
Wendoree
Is that it?
wobert
Chief Commissioner
Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Nothing stops at Ballarat East.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
Bendigo stations were once and may now still be
Kangaroo flat
Golden square
Bendigo
Eaglehawk
Add the new station to the north whose name escapes me.
Kangaroo flat
Golden square
Bendigo
Eaglehawk
Add the new station to the north whose name escapes me.
Gman_86
Chief Commissioner
Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
What about Geelong and Ballarat transport systems which both have a larger population than Bendigo. It seems to be forgotten in this discussion.
It wasn't forgotten, the topic is Bendigo, Ballarat and Geelong are another subject
Gman_86
Chief Commissioner
Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
You might argue Geelong already has a metro style network or at least a Geelong urban network.
Stations in Geelong. There are several.
Corio
North Geelong
Geelong
South Geelong
Geelong racecourse
Marshall
Waurn Ponds
That is 7
You forgot about North Shore, also Geelong Racecourse is no more, the platform remains, but the track is disconected from the mainline, the points were removed some years ago. Also, I would close Corio, It is miles away from anything (except the refinery, hardly anybody uses Corio) although I would include Lara instead.
A bit of a mute point though with the soon to be realised 20 minute off peak frequency Geelong will have a suburban like 20 minute frequency between their 7-8 stations.
Chidda Bang
Locomotive Driver
Location: Banned
Hot news looks like my bendigo train pattern is going to happen
https://www.viclabor.com.au/media-releases/labor-all-aboard-for-bendigo-metro-rail/
https://www.viclabor.com.au/media-releases/labor-all-aboard-for-bendigo-metro-rail/
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