Newcastle Rail Line: Announcements

 
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Sorry, I may have trouble posting this, &/or it may post twice

http://www.2hd.com.au/state-gov-refuses-release-rail-documents/
State Govt Refuses to Release Rail Documents
The State Government has agreed to release only two of twelve key documents, underpinning the decision to remove the heavy rail line into Newcastle.

Key crossbenchers, Labor and the Greens joined forces last month, to pass a motion forcing the Government to release the papers.

The documents which have been released are understood to be a pedestrian footbridge study and an operational plan for the Wickham Terminus construction.

However the Government has used a legal loophole called “cabinet in confidence” to avoid releasing most of the documents, including a cost benefit analysis of the project and a key scoping study.

Greens MP Challenges NSW Government Secrecy after Government Refusal to Release Newcastle Train line Papers
http://www.mehreenfaruqi.org.au/greens-mp-challenges-nsw-government-secrecy-after-government-refusal-to-release-newcastle-train-line-papers

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  Showtime Chief Train Controller

Well obviously nothing to hide here.
I must be wrong about our pollies.Sad
  tezza Chief Commissioner

Well obviously nothing to hide here.
I must be wrong about our pollies.Sad
Showtime

The Greens are largely irrelevant in Newcastle so there is little point in releasing commercial in confidence information to them at this point in time with the railway truncation to go ahead in less than six weeks
  a6et Minister for Railways

The Greens are largely irrelevant in Newcastle so there is little point in releasing commercial in confidence information to them at this point in time with the railway truncation to go ahead in less than six weeks
tezza

While the greens may be irrelevant in Newcastle or for that matter anywhere else in the country, the whole aspect of this goes beyond just the greens, but it smacks at all voters in NSW for a start.

What is so sensitive to the government that affects not just those in the NCLE area, but every other NSW elector who may have need to go to NCLE some time or another?  Not only that but, it also shows that this government like so many others before it have no thoughts towards any person who has an opinion that may differ from them & it really smacks of dictatorship not democracy, if they get away with this under some obscure clause then what else have they got planned for anywhere else?
  TomBTR Chief Train Controller

Location: near Sydney
Unfortunately, a6et, commercial-in-confidence and cabinet-in-confidence are not "obscure clauses" but a standard tactic of this and the previous NSW Government used to hide deals with the private sector that are not in the public interest.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Unfortunately, a6et, commercial-in-confidence and cabinet-in-confidence are not "obscure clauses" but a standard tactic of this and the previous NSW Government used to hide deals with the private sector that are not in the public interest.
TomBTR

No disagreement there & why I said ""this government like so many others before it"".  Having dealt with politicians during site inspections & other community forums that I was involved in, I know what they are like, & certainly this shows the depth they go to, to hide their grafting nature.  I doubt if ICAC will be finished any time soon.

Of interest is that I was involved in meetings regarding the future of the old Honeysuckle goods yard & wharf area, & what is there now is not what was put forward at those meetings.  Surprising how they could also keep the one goods shed that was the centre of disputes owing to the unsafe working conditions, including recognised health problems from asbestos, rat infestation & pigeons that nested above the chicken wire that sat over uncovered electrical wiring & did their business on the workers, but no manager would go in there to inspect, but they denied these issues.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/444788/survey-finds-93-of-hunter-residents-want-newcastle-city-centre-revived/
Survey finds 93% of Hunter residents want Newcastle city centre revivedBy JULIEANNE STRACHAN State Political ReporterAug. 5, 2009, 12:29 p.m.
HUNTER residents have backed plans to revive Newcastle's heart, with a Hunter Valley Research Foundation survey finding 93 per cent of people recognised the need to rejuvenate the city centre.
An overwhelming majority of residents surveyed also backed plans to remove the rail line to Newcastle in order to push ahead with major building projects across the city.
The foundation's survey showed that 71 per cent of people sampled supported cutting the heavy rail line at Wickham, if other catalyst projects depended on doing it.
The NSW Government commissioned the survey of 507 residents from Newcastle, Lake Macquarie, Maitland, Cessnock and Port Stephens.
The survey also found that 59 per cent of respondents indicated moderate or higher support for removing the heavy rail regardless of other projects.
More than 85 per cent of respondents supported the education, justice, retail, tourism and commercial precincts outlined in the Hunter Development Corporation's City Centre Renewal Plan.
It has been estimated the projects have the potential to create up to 4700 jobs during construction, more than 2400 jobs in the long term and would mean an estimated investment of $1.4 billion into the region.
Minister for the Hunter Jodi McKay welcomed the survey findings.
Ms McKay said the survey was conducted during an eight-week public feedback process, during which more than than 3000 people accessed the Hunter Development Corporation's website to view the revitalisation plans.
"The overwhelming sentiment behind the responses was that we need to act now on plans to redevelop Newcastle," Ms McKay said.
"It was also abundantly clear that Newcastle City Council, the community and our business leaders endorse the catalyst projects outlined in the report."
Ms McKay said the next step was to appoint a consultant to work with the University of Newcastle and the development corporation to identify a suitable location for the first stage of the university's relocation project.
Suitable state-owned sites would need to be identified.
The renewal plan proposed moving up to 7000 university students and 100 staff into the heart of the city.
"There is strong support within the community, businesses and Newcastle City Council for us to expedite plans to relocate the University of Newcastle to the city centre," Ms McKay said.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

Revitalisation of Newcastle CBD continues as Wickham interchange gets the green light.........

http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/revitalisation-newcastle-cbd-continues-wickham-interchange-gets-green-light

Minister for Transport and Minister for the Hunter Gladys Berejiklian today announced the Hunter’s new transport interchange at Wickham has received planning approval – paving the way for the revitalisation of the Newcastle CBD.
Ms Berejiklian said work will begin to create a state-of-the-art transport interchange at Wickham immediately following truncation of the rail line on 26 December 2014.
“The interchange – which will integrate trains, buses, taxis, light rail, cyclists and car drop-off and pick-ups – is a key part of the NSW Government’s plans to revitalise Newcastle, alongside light rail from Wickham to the beach,” Ms Berejiklian said.
Hunter residents, workers and businesses were encouraged to have their say on the Wickham transport interchange project during public exhibition of a Review of Environmental Factors in August this year.
“I’m pleased that we’ve had so much valuable feedback from the community, with about 200 submissions received,” Ms Berejiklian said.
“I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to provide input into the project.
“One of the key pieces of feedback we heard was around the look of the interchange. I want to assure the community that when a contractor is selected to design and build the interchange, their first job will be to review the design and ensure the community’s feedback is considered. The contractor is due to be appointed by the end of the year.”
The NSW Government is also continuing to work with the community to identify opportunities to improve traffic flow and minimise impacts during construction and operation of the new interchange and train stabling facilities.
Ms Berejiklian said those in the area may notice a lot more activity in the rail corridor between Hamilton and Newcastle over the coming weeks.
“Work is underway to prepare for the truncation of the rail line on Boxing Day – opening up the CBD to the foreshore and putting an end to the queues local motorists endure at level crossings which are currently cutting the city centre in half,” she said.
“Geotechnical studies along the preferred route in Hunter and Scott streets are underway to help prepare for the separate planning approval process for light rail.
“The NSW Government continues to deliver on its promises to the people of Newcastle and will ensure the best transport solution is in place to underpin the urban renewal Newcastle has been crying out for.”
Planning is well-advanced for interim transport bus services connecting Hamilton, Wickham and the beach while the interchange and light rail are being built.
“Last month, we released more information on the interim bus services that will operate once the heavy rail line is truncated,” Ms Berejiklian said.
“Customers will be able catch a bus every 10 minutes in the peak from sheltered bus stops at Hamilton, Wickham, Civic and Newcastle stations and Queens Wharf, connecting with every train service at Hamilton Station.
“It is expected every customer will get a seat on a fleet of modern, fully-accessible, air-conditioned buses and that they can carry surfboards and other luggage on-board.”
Revitalisation of Newcastle CBD continues as Wickham interchange gets the green light (pdf 77KB)
14 November 2014
  wxtre Chief Train Controller

Are you a paid propagandist for the state government tezza

It is very disturbing you agree with ruining the transport system in Newcastle and appear to delight in its promotion. I dislike you vehemently. I believe you have a selfish personality.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

I do agree wxtre, but this time, she was only quoting a media release from the government - naturally to hide how the government are refusing to release all but two documents after they were ordered to.

Don't forget that I've quoted from the "government" as well.

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Transcript from Friday 7th November of the Inquiry into the Planning Process in Newcastle & Broader Hunter Region
http://tinyurl.com/o3q6xvw

(The last comment by Ms Cross on the last page should be all in capitals, and the last part should be in slightly larger capitals)
  tezza Chief Commissioner

This is the forum for Newcastle Rail Line: Announcements is it not wxtre? I don't believe this is a forum to launch unprovoked unsubstantiated personal attacks, please conduct yourself in a rather more professional manner while you are here wxtre.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

I don't believe this is a forum to launch unprovoked unsubstantiated personal attacks
tezza

And you should talk!

But it was correct for you to place the announcement here.
  wxtre Chief Train Controller

This is the forum for Newcastle Rail Line: Announcements is it not wxtre? I don't believe this is a forum to launch unprovoked unsubstantiated personal attacks, please conduct yourself in a rather more professional manner while you are here wxtre.
tezza

If you had not noticed this website is called the Railpage Australia™. Usually people who gravitate towards a website such as this would have an interest in rail and its promotion, not the opposite.

I find it strange that you have this negative attitude towards the rail-line and I question your motivations.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

City's future plotted by 'shadow government'
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2697976/citys-future-plotted-by-shadow-government/?cs=303
A ‘‘MASTER Planning Group’’ composed of developers, property investors, elected representatives and public servants held meetings to plot the future of Newcastle, according to newly released documents. . .

. . .The group met regularly through 2013. Cutting the heavy rail line seemed to be a major priority, with other issues high on its agenda including ways to reuse the “redundant” rail corridor.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

Carefull Newcastle Express i may have sensitive feelings, direct me to any Railpage thread where i have personally attacked you by mentioning your Aspergers and wxtre you may not have noticed that Railpage encompasses all forms of railway transport which includes a "Tram and Light Railway" forum, the Newcastle of the future. No hidden agenda on my part.
  PKBeam Locomotive Driver

Location: Somewhere in NSW
His issue is not with your support of the light rail but your disdain for the heavy rail.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
If you don't need a train you don't need a tram, no people = end of story.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

The opinions of a bewildered rail transport enthusiast mean very little to the NSW Government and their plans to revitalise Newcastle wxtre, it is time that you put them to rest.
  PKBeam Locomotive Driver

Location: Somewhere in NSW
The opinions of a bewildered rail transport enthusiast mean very little to the NSW Government and their plans to revitalise Newcastle wxtre, it is time that you put them to rest.
tezza

If you dislike people voicing their opinions on this topic then you simply shouldn't be here. Instead, go here, read the news and laugh silently to yourself about how little the NSW government cares about the opinions of a
bewildered rail transport enthusiast.

Back to the topic:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2698053/government-approves-wickham-transport-interchange/?cs=305
  Fred Scuttle Junior Train Controller

Location: Point Clare, NSW
Well said, PKBeam. Tezza is entitled to his views, and to promote them (after all, did not our Federal Attorney-General recently declare that people have a right to be bigots?). It is, however, the way in which he has promoted his views which has angered other posters on this thread. It is one thing to claim that the Newcastle line is an utterly useless railway to nowhere that nobody uses - it is quite another to describe any and all who query or disagree with that viewpoint as "delusional".

Just my 2c worth . . . . . . . . . . .
  Transtopic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Re "Shadow Government" news article.  Seriously?  $60 million donated by the Hunter Infrastructure and Investment Fund to "help in the Government's deliberations on the future of the rail line"!  Seems a lot of money for just making a decision to close a railway line, even if extensive investigation is required.  Shouldn't this be the Government's responsibility to meet the cost anyway?  Incredible!

Here's another potential obstacle, which might not stop the Light Rail project, if in fact it goes ahead, but would certainly thwart any aspirations to redevelop a valuable piece of real estate.  Further to my earlier post with regard to the Transport Administration Act, requiring authorisation by an Act of Parliament to close a railway line, that part of the existing rail corridor from Wickham to Scott St, which is proposed to be converted to Light Rail, technically wouldn't require Parliamentary approval, because it isn't "closing" the rail line, but merely changing the mode of operation.  However, for that part of the remaining Newcastle Yard and Station, it may be a different matter.  Putting aside the Heritage issues, it may well require an Act of Parliament to remove the tracks and station infrastructure.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

Thank's for providing the interesting link PKBeam, here is a topic that might interest you regarding the Newcastle Railway Line.

Revitalisation of Newcastle CBD continues as Wickham interchange gets the green light
Minister for Transport and Minister for the Hunter Gladys Berejiklian today announced the Hunter’s new transport interchange at Wickham has received planning approval – paving the way for the revitalisation of the Newcastle CBD.
Ms Berejiklian said work will begin to create a state-of-the-art transport interchange at Wickham immediately following truncation of the rail line on 26 December 2014.
“The interchange – which will integrate trains, buses, taxis, light rail, cyclists and car drop-off and pick-ups – is a key part of the NSW Government’s plans to revitalise Newcastle, alongside light rail from Wickham to the beach,” Ms Berejiklian said.
Hunter residents, workers and businesses were encouraged to have their say on the Wickham transport interchange project during public exhibition of a Review of Environmental Factors in August this year.
“I’m pleased that we’ve had so much valuable feedback from the community, with about 200 submissions received,” Ms Berejiklian said.
“I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to provide input into the project.
“One of the key pieces of feedback we heard was around the look of the interchange. I want to assure the community that when a contractor is selected to design and build the interchange, their first job will be to review the design and ensure the community’s feedback is considered. The contractor is due to be appointed by the end of the year.”
The NSW Government is also continuing to work with the community to identify opportunities to improve traffic flow and minimise impacts during construction and operation of the new interchange and train stabling facilities.
Ms Berejiklian said those in the area may notice a lot more activity in the rail corridor between Hamilton and Newcastle over the coming weeks.
“Work is underway to prepare for the truncation of the rail line on Boxing Day – opening up the CBD to the foreshore and putting an end to the queues local motorists endure at level crossings which are currently cutting the city centre in half,” she said.
“Geotechnical studies along the preferred route in Hunter and Scott streets are underway to help prepare for the separate planning approval process for light rail.
“The NSW Government continues to deliver on its promises to the people of Newcastle and will ensure the best transport solution is in place to underpin the urban renewal Newcastle has been crying out for.”
Planning is well-advanced for interim transport bus services connecting Hamilton, Wickham and the beach while the interchange and light rail are being built.
“Last month, we released more information on the interim bus services that will operate once the heavy rail line is truncated,” Ms Berejiklian said.
“Customers will be able catch a bus every 10 minutes in the peak from sheltered bus stops at Hamilton, Wickham, Civic and Newcastle stations and Queens Wharf, connecting with every train service at Hamilton Station.
“It is expected every customer will get a seat on a fleet of modern, fully-accessible, air-conditioned buses and that they can carry surfboards and other luggage on-board.”
  PKBeam Locomotive Driver

Location: Somewhere in NSW
Just letting you know that I don't support or am against cutting the rail. I dislike the idea but I'm trying to be neutral on this.
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

Gee Tezza, seems like the state government is going to spend a lot of money so that those average 12 rail commuters per train will still be able to get to the beach.
With one breath it says that no one is using the trains, then they promise a new train to replace the old one.
Can you believe anything this government says?
There will be no light rail in any of our lifetimes.
And for the hundredth time, I am still asking any knowledgible person on this forum how the hell this whole process is going to "revitalise" Newcastle.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Gee Tezza, seems like the state government is going to spend a lot of money so that those average 12 rail commuters per train will still be able to get to the beach.
With one breath it says that no one is using the trains, then they promise a new train to replace the old one.
Can you believe anything this government says?
There will be no light rail in any of our lifetimes.
And for the hundredth time, I am still asking any knowledgible person on this forum how the hell this whole process is going to "revitalise" Newcastle.
Showtime

It might revitalise the people into understanding how stupid it was to close the line, & would have been better to not follow the governments line on spin, so well learnt from previous governments.

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