Southern Rail Blog - Uboats, Xplorer, Vlocity, tank cars, QR Things, etc

 
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

I just wrote a big reply that got eaten when submitted Sad  So a short version now: I have both SRM & SDS versions, each has its merits. If you can sit down with both manufacturers models to compare you'll keep finding more and more subtle differences.
Poath Junction
... and a few not-so-subtle differences as well.

Shame they didn't fix the massive weld down the middle (that they said they would) and the gap under the tank that is solidly welded on the prototype...

Paul

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Vlocity sets VLO5, VLO7, VLO9 – 12 are now sold out by Southern Rail. Retailers might still have some of these sets but clearly they won't be lasting on the shelves for very long.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

For anyone looking for bargain price SRM Cement Hoppers, check out the Model Railroad Craftsman...

http://www.mrrc.com.au/specials-clearence.html

He's selling all versions of the Cement hoppers at $180 per pack of 4, as 'not-quite-right'.

UPDATE (20 Jan): MRRC price back up to $215


Southern Rail Concrete Wagons
All new but with small imperfections like glue marks and other small errors. These do not effect the models but we have decided to clear them as a special to our web purchaser, so when they are gone they are gone....!


I can't work out if this is indicative of all the packs of cement hoppers, or whether he just got a shipment of dodgy ones or a special deal to get rid of them from Southern Rail Models.

Paul

UPDATE (18 Jan): Now HobbyLand at Hornsby has dropped his prices on the whole SRM range of Cement Hoppers to $180 also.
  ed31880 Train Controller

There is already a pack listed on eBay listed under suits Auscision/au strains.  Pack VL012 and they are asking $1200 or nearest offer.
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

i read the post by the administrators about negative posts , and have decided to delete my message which i have sent to the 3 partys
as well one person has replied with copy and paste of mine so i will request he will do the same and delete his reply
i am still dissapointed but the message proabably sounds worse than it is
Railpage have policys and i would like to adhere to that
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
wanabetraindrvr

Wanabetraindrvr's post deleted as requested.

It would seem to be a warranty issue to me so take it back to the shop of purchase. That is where your answer will lay.

Good luck

(PS: My response edited as requested)
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

i am fortunate to know a former director of psm brass models . whilst i fixed his mums car this morning he waved his magic wand over the velocitys , incorrect assembly and no lubrication were found to be responsible , both units now roll as you would expect a new non needle point roller assembly to roll and the motor unit can now pull the coaches . they would get much better now with use but are destined for display . iam very relieved and very happy . thanks sa trains for your kind assistance
  gunzel42 Locomotive Driver

Picked up my VL02 model (1112/1212) from Orient Express on Friday and am very happy with it!  An exceptional model, well done Southern Rail Models.

Also, thanks to Orient Express for their help in taking the order and ensuring it was available soon after release.


Cheers

Kym
  N463 Locomotive Driver

The PC Board for this project has been a bit of a mess on the Chinese side with their understanding of our very simple requirements. The board design is basically a development of the Xplorer board (with correct wiring) – no big deal - but trying to take advantage of two unknown extra functions that are available on an ESU Loksound V4 decoder seemed to cause some misunderstanding. The use of these two extra functions in DCC mode will add significant advantages to their lighting operations. I will post more on this at a later date.
Southern Rail Models (Blog - 29th November 2014)
Has anyone figured out what all the DCC functions on a V/Locity do?  I havn't got a decoder for mine yet, so I havn't had a chance to find out...
  brissim Chief Train Controller

Has anyone figured out what all the DCC functions on a V/Locity do?  I havn't got a decoder for mine yet, so I havn't had a chance to find out...
N463
Have you seen the recent posting on their facebook page?

Tony
  N463 Locomotive Driver

Have you seen the recent posting on their facebook page?

Tony
brissim

Thanks for the info... Didn't think of looking there.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well not to cause any unintended trouble for this manufacturer, I have shared with you all this terrible production
of the unboxing, DCC install and running of the Southern Models Velocity.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4464blpYYwU

Laugh, Cry, but enjoy.

Regards,
David Head
  Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne VIC
Blog update 24th Feb:

http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/24th-february-2015--exhibitions--vlocity--npry

Vlo's are getting another run with new PTV scheme and a couple of new window decorations.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
"SOUTHERN RAIL will be releasing a new Victorian wagon at the exhibitions! 2 VERSION – 3 VARIATIONS – 1960’s TO 2010,  29 CUSTOM DECORATIONS, 16 x 3 CAR PACKS – NORMAL PRICE $250.00, EXHIBITION PRICE $225.00"

Price point indicates something with a bit of complexity. Period of operation and other details could mean a multitude of wagons including tank wagons, car carriers, or possibly even both types of the JX flour hopper. All speculation for now, we'll know in about a fortnight.
  Franky-Mc Beginner

Open wagons maybe? Ribbed and flat sided, plus the steel wagon variants. And they ran nationally.

What other Victorian rolling stock was removed from service in 2010?
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
Open wagons maybe? Ribbed and flat sided, plus the steel wagon variants. And they ran nationally.

What other Victorian rolling stock was removed from service in 2010?
Franky-Mc
Not sure it's necessarily removed from service in 2010. Could just be that the livery/liveries they have the rights to use was in common usage up until 2010.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Open wagons maybe? Ribbed and flat sided, plus the steel wagon variants. And they ran nationally.

What other Victorian rolling stock was removed from service in 2010?
Franky-Mc
$83 for an open wagon...

Hope not.

Paul
  NSWGR1855 Deputy Commissioner

I just wrote a big reply that got eaten when submitted Sad  So a short version now: I have both SRM & SDS versions, each has its merits. If you can sit down with both manufacturers models to compare you'll keep finding more and more subtle differences.
Poath Junction
The differences between the SDS  PRX models and the southern models are a result of the SDS models accuracy, the Southern one is not accurate. For example the southern model is to high yet has under scale diameter wheels. Some of the many reasons why they are going cheap.

Terry Flynn.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
The differences between the SDS  PRX models and the southern models are a result of the SDS models accuracy, the Southern one is not accurate. For example the southern model is to high yet has under scale diameter wheels. Some of the many reasons why they are going cheap.

Terry Flynn.
NSWGR1855
I'm working on a list of things wrong with my V/locity's..... not a small list.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Pictures say 1000 words.......

james13
Having not pulled mine apart yet, can you describe which changes you made and why (specifically the leds / wiring and bogie pickups)?

Thanks
Paul
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
Having not pulled mine apart yet, can you describe which changes you made and why (specifically the leds / wiring and bogie pickups)?

Thanks
Paul
FirstStopCentral
I, too, would be interested to know this, please.
  james13 Chief Commissioner

Location: At the Skunk Works
Having not pulled mine apart yet, can you describe which changes you made and why (specifically the leds / wiring and bogie pickups)?

Thanks
Paul
FirstStopCentral
Hi Paul,
I changed the shape of the actual pick up as it put too much pressure on the wheelsets on the trailer cars as having them bent straight gives them a softer flex. I also shimmed the axles with some NWSL 3mm OD, 2mm ID x.25mm thick bronze washers (three on the plastic bush side and 6 on the metal side). Mine would only roll a matter of 10cms with a good shove, they now roll about 60cm with the same shove. I actually did the test by butting a modified trailer up to a standard one and pushing them together with the same shove as to see the improvement. As for the lighting I stripped the originals out of the unit and replaced the light tubes with fibre optics and some high intensity LEDs. I wired the centre headlights to the markers so the I could leave the HID lights on a seperate (existing) function. I would have liked to have all headlights on seperate functions but the existing wiring doesn't allow for that. I hope this helps.
Regards
James.
  james13 Chief Commissioner

Location: At the Skunk Works
Here's a pic of the wiring. The centre wires go to the HID lights, the other wires go to the markers and normal headlights.

[img]http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt233/james1377/20150227_073736_zpsurznz68s_edit_1424984042720_zpsdifscoim.jpg[/img]
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Please don't quote this whole post.

Are you saying that the wiring is again around the wrong way in the VLocity models?

And to summarise, what is wrong with them, as someone said that it's not a small list?

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