Ballarat V/Line travellers paying double the price

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 14 Mar 2015 20:15
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Local commuter Damian Wicks, a professional analyst by trade, told The CourierBallarat commuters were being “royally shafted”.
Ballarat V/Line travellers paying double the price

That is a bit harsh.  Is Bacchus Marsh and Ballarat not in the same zone?  is that the issue?

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  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Yet another example of the ridiculous zone system failing.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
V/Line is priced on the distance, not on zones. Of course it is going to cost more to go Ballarat than Bacchus Marsh.
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

V/Line is priced on the distance, not on zones. Of course it is going to cost more to go Ballarat than Bacchus Marsh.
TheBlacksmith

The issue is that is a lot cheaper to purchase both a Ballarat - Bacchus marsh and a Bacchus Marsh - Melbourne ticket than it is to purchase a Ballarat - Melbourne ticket.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Yet it's still ridiculously cheap.

Does it mention Mr Wicks' age?

I imagine he's around 5 years old and the interview was conducted in the local sandpit.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
The issue is that is a lot cheaper to purchase both a Ballarat - Bacchus marsh and a Bacchus Marsh - Melbourne ticket than it is to purchase a Ballarat - Melbourne ticket.
ab123
Seeing you need a Myki card to make that journey, how does buying tickets even come into it?
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

Sorry for my huge error, replace ticket with Myki fare!
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
After looking at the Myki zone map, there are a number of V/Line stations with multiple zones attached.
Examples are:
  • Bacchus Marsh 2/3
  • Lara 2/3/4
  • Riddells Creek 2/3

If you're happy to break your journey and wait for the next train, then you can save money.
Myki theoretically always charges the lowest fare, so if, for example, you come from Ballarat to Southern Cross and change at Bacchus Marsh, the fare should be zones 8 Ballarat to 3 Bacchus Marsh touch off + z2 Bacchus Marsh touch on to 1.
  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
After looking at the Myki zone map, there are a number of V/Line stations with multiple zones attached.
Examples are:
  • Bacchus Marsh 2/3
  • Lara 2/3/4
  • Riddells Creek 2/3

If you're happy to break your journey and wait for the next train, then you can save money.
Myki theoretically always charges the lowest fare, so if, for example, you come from Ballarat to Southern Cross and change at Bacchus Marsh, the fare should be zones 8 Ballarat to 3 Bacchus Marsh touch off + z2 Bacchus Marsh touch on to 1.
xxxxlbear


The reason they're getting a cheaper fare because Ballarat to Bacchus Marsh is an off-peak fare compare to a person does not do this and they get charged a peak fare.

Travel from any location to another location that is not zone 1 station like Ballarat to Sunshine and then  it an off-peak fare - even if you travel in the peak time.In this case Sunshine and  Bacchus Marsh is not zone 1 and so for an user will be charged an off-peak fare.

Ballarat to Bacchus Marsh $11.76 - is the off peak fare
Bacchus Marsh to Melbourne: $7.52
zone 1/2 daily fare
= $19.28
Ballarat to Sunshine = $14.56 off peak fare daily fare
Sunshine to Melbourne = $7.52 zone 1/2 daily fare
= $22.08

Compare to
Ballarat to Melbourne peak daily fare of $38.40

If MYKI work out the daily fare as same way it does for Melbourne fares:
10/weekly fare and then times by 2 = daily fare
Melbourne zone 1 and 2 weekly fare = $ 37.60
$ 37.60 /10 = $3.76 and times it by 2 = $7.52
If this was applied to Ballarat fare and then daily Ballarat fare would be the following:
$105.80 Ballarat to Melbourne weekly fare : $105.80/10 = $10.58 and then 2 times = 21.16
  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
The issue is that is a lot cheaper to purchase both a Ballarat - Bacchus marsh and a Bacchus Marsh - Melbourne ticket than it is to purchase a Ballarat - Melbourne ticket.
ab123
This has been case for a long time

If Zone 3 was still applied in  Melbourne areas and then Bacchus Marsh to Melbourne would cost around $14.75 for a daily peak fare. Note zone 3 was normally higher compare to 50 unit fare - It was based on been a 55 unit fare.


If V/Line fares was applied to Bacchus Marsh to Melbourne and then it would cost $13.60

Ballarat to Bacchus Marsh should have cost $20.80 for a daily peak fare but under myki it get treated as off-peak fare and which cost

= $34.40 and this still cheaper than Melbourne to Ballarat fare of $38.40"

Ballarat to Bacchus Marsh is an off peak fare ($11.76) - even if the person travels on the peak services.

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