Track Plan

 
  Blackaddar Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra, ACT
So I've moved in the last 8 months and have lost all my progress, My misses has given me free rein in the room.

Floor plan:


board sections:


Tack Plan:



So above is the plan I'm looking at implementing, few things i want to make the bridge on  hinge so it goes up and down to allow access, does anyone know if there is a guide or some tips and tricks for making this idea work (I know its not an original one).

Black.

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  Piston Train Controller

Before you get a solution or comments re the lift out section maybe some comments on the track design may be better.
The left hand side of the layout is a sea of points that only serve to route a train from one track to another. There are nineteen points (20 including the one in loco) and at roughly $30 each that is around $600 for points. The end tracks that they serve are too short to hold a train and when you park a train in siding it will be lying over more points and making them useless.
Maybe the tracks can be made to fold into the bottom left hand corner down onto the bottom board forming a few parallel tracks for stowing trains.

Just hope there is more feedback on your track design as well as your other issue.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
like other the plan looks like a saleman';s pitch to sell points.  So I edited the plan and came up with this:




a lot of track removed. You can add more later. You had so many points you have no track !
Of course this is a alternate suggestion, and crudely done as I altered it in ms paint in a rough fashion.

As to the lift out section, do google that formany attempts. Make the swing section first then when nicely hindged, then lay the track over it. Finally cut the track.

David
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
There are many, many different flavours of gates/bridges for access to the centre of a layout. A few months ago, Model Railroader published a very clever gate using a drawer runner. This gate lifted up and then folded down out of the way. You may want to have a look on the MR web site. I'd imagine there are a number of other designs in various model rail magazines. I bet there are a few on Youtube as well.

As for your track plan, I agree with the others regarding the complexity of your plan. I'd also recommend simplification.

Good luck with your new layout.

Dan
  Shazam75 Chief Commissioner

How much is the turntable going to cost as well?

Shelton
  a6et Minister for Railways

How much is the turntable going to cost as well?

Shelton
Shazam75
Shelton depends on what you are after, era locos etc.  Antons trains has different size types based on NSW http://www.antonstrains.com.au/Accessories.html  there were not any 125footers here though.

Its also worth a look at Walthers for their Cornerstone TT's  http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=&scale=&manu=&item=&keywords=turntable&words=restrict&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search.

They only seem to have a 90 & 130 foot types for HO, but they are all ready to go for Dcc operation, the one listed ATM as being on backorder 90ft, is a fair representation of the NSW type of that sized TT.  Not hard to do some localising of it though & they work well.
  Kevin Martin Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
like other the plan looks like a saleman';s pitch to sell points.  So I edited the plan and came up with this:




a lot of track removed. You can add more later. You had so many points you have no track !
Of course this is a alternate suggestion, and crudely done as I altered it in ms paint in a rough fashion.

As to the lift out section, do google that formany attempts. Make the swing section first then when nicely hindged, then lay the track over it. Finally cut the track.

David
dthead
The simplification is good, but one feature lost is the ability to run around & reverse trains in the platform. The reversible centre track is worthwhile, I think. Although it could be done with 2 crossovers, without the 3rd platform.
  Kevin Martin Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
So I've moved in the last 8 months and have lost all my progress, My misses has given me free rein in the room.

Floor plan:


board sections:


Tack Plan:



So above is the plan I'm looking at implementing, few things i want to make the bridge on  hinge so it goes up and down to allow access, does anyone know if there is a guide or some tips and tricks for making this idea work (I know its not an original one).

Black.
Blackaddar
Hi Black.

Any particular reason why the baseboard is recessed in from the doorway, it seems to be wasted space & would give you a little more width.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The simplification is good, but one feature lost is the ability to run around & reverse trains in the platform. The reversible centre track is worthwhile, I think. Although it could be done with 2 crossovers, without the 3rd platform.
Kevin Martin
Saw that but decided the size of the layout  - just run the locomotive around the whole line and couple up. It'snot as if the layout is too big, as the train departs the platform and soon ends up back quick enough. To me it allows the newcommer the constent train movements that most  enjoy, watching trains go around. The yards allow some basic shunting, a aspect many enjoy more and hence often build shuntin shelf layouts.

To me the point are very sharp, even for british outline. Msin thing was to show a better direction of plan, and alot more useable.  It has the small headshint and 2 sidings. Two crossovers allow trains to change tracks.


what it does not allow is a train entering the yards in a forward direction and run around in order to shunt. I think we all are giving good info.

In the end it is Blackadder's railway. ENJOY !

Regards,
David Head
  Shazam75 Chief Commissioner

Shelton depends on what you are after, era locos etc.  Antons trains has different size types based on NSW http://www.antonstrains.com.au/Accessories.html  there were not any 125footers here though.

Its also worth a look at Walthers for their Cornerstone TT's  http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=&scale=&manu=&item=&keywords=turntable&words=restrict&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search.

They only seem to have a 90 & 130 foot types for HO, but they are all ready to go for Dcc operation, the one listed ATM as being on backorder 90ft, is a fair representation of the NSW type of that sized TT.  Not hard to do some localising of it though & they work well.
a6et
yep saw the Walthers ones - they are quite steep in price I think.

Cheers
Shelton
  a6et Minister for Railways

yep saw the Walthers ones - they are quite steep in price I think.

Cheers
Shelton
Shazam75
Yep, I agree not cheap, but the alternatives are not much better, & if you want to go DCC with the Walthers versions they are already set up for it.

I got a 90footer for my layout, in the previous iteration, it has indexing & the like & one could deem it almost DCC ready but still a bit to work on for that in setting up the decoder operation for it.  It cost the same amount but I kept watch on U.S Ebay & it was on sale for around $US265.00, not long afterwards they were withdrawn as they went into working the existing model.

The question with a TT is what you are modelling therefore the size needed, Antons have the smaller 75 & 60 ft TT's the 75 no cheaper than his 90ft, as I wanted to have 57 & 58cl I needed the larger one,

Another option but sadly they now only do a 90footer as their smallest model is a US company called CMR Models, they sell their TT's in kits, but if time is there they make up fairly nice http://www.custommodelrailroads.com/turntables-3.aspx . They do sell motorising kits & the like but that takes the price upwards.
  Blackaddar Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra, ACT
How much is the turntable going to cost as well?

Shelton
Shazam75
Hi Shelton,

I already have the turn-table, should have mentioned this, i was able to salvage a lot of my track from my old layout (id say at least 30 feet of it) and a dozen or so switches. tho the Turntable is the Hornby one which not a big fan of...

Hi Black.
Any particular reason why the baseboard is recessed in from the doorway, it seems to be wasted space & would give you a little more width.
Kevin Martin
Kevin,

i was going to try and stick to making the modules to the NMRA standard but i might as well make it go to the end of the wall, but since this is mostly built for me to play around with i suppose i shouldn't bother, the only other consideration is i have a small 1m wide desk to fit in between the board end and the cupboard on the right.


a lot of track removed. You can add more later. You had so many points you have no track ! Of course this is a alternate suggestion, and crudely done as I altered it in ms paint in a rough fashion.

As to the lift out section, do google that formany attempts. Make the swing section first then when nicely hindged, then lay the track over it. Finally cut the track.

David
dthead

Hi David,

i do like that simplification, i think i was running away with shunting all my rolling stock around.....

the altered one looks much more easily managed.

Ive done some editing to try and make it match, will see how i go.

Thanks all.

Black.
  Shazam75 Chief Commissioner

Yep, I agree not cheap, but the alternatives are not much better, & if you want to go DCC with the Walthers versions they are already set up for it.

I got a 90footer for my layout, in the previous iteration, it has indexing & the like & one could deem it almost DCC ready but still a bit to work on for that in setting up the decoder operation for it.  It cost the same amount but I kept watch on U.S Ebay & it was on sale for around $US265.00, not long afterwards they were withdrawn as they went into working the existing model.

The question with a TT is what you are modelling therefore the size needed, Antons have the smaller 75 & 60 ft TT's the 75 no cheaper than his 90ft, as I wanted to have 57 & 58cl I needed the larger one,

Another option but sadly they now only do a 90footer as their smallest model is a US company called CMR Models, they sell their TT's in kits, but if time is there they make up fairly nice http://www.custommodelrailroads.com/turntables-3.aspx . They do sell motorising kits & the like but that takes the price upwards.

Thanks for the links.  I'm not too fussed how close the TT resembles a Victorian Railways one.  I am modelling VR.  I think the 90 footer Walthers will do me, I just need to work out exactly where on my layout I will put it.  I think a TT saves alot more space then having a set of tracks and associated points for loco storage.
Cheers
Shelton
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
One thing with designing any layout do not try and cram the boards full of track! Like David Head showed less can actually be better at times! To many try to fill every available space on boards with track. Start out with something easy to start with to lay and play with, and go from there over time as finances allow or you get better idea's. I really like David Heads simplification though just on the saving of the cost of the points!

Above all do not try to design your dream layout first up it has never been successfully done yet, get it there in stages or build a layout and use it for some years and demolish it and make a new one. The building like this of several layouts over a long period will give you the knowledge to build a better layout later on. Each layout built will further your education on things like this. I have had about 6 different layout's now and I still have not got my dream layout!

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